Simon
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| posted on 27/10/07 at 04:34 PM |
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Cheapest bec build cost - track day only
Ok, here's one for your bec peeps.
I'm toying with the idea of building a track bec (though I want SVA for my own peace of mind).
Homemade chassis/wishbones/bodywork etc etc - apart from nosecone.
Steel wheels
Probably IRS as I have 3.62 diff lying around.
For engine, I'm thinking ZZR1100 (as cheapish though would prob get complete bike for obvious reasons, flog what's left).
What's gonna be the cheapest I can do it for?
More of a thought experiment for the moment, so no need to get too carried away
ATB
Simon
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worX
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| posted on 27/10/07 at 04:36 PM |
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£3000 ???
Steve
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Simon
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| posted on 27/10/07 at 04:44 PM |
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Steve,
Deimos cost me that, and now I know what I'm doing.......
ATB
Simon
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zilspeed
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| posted on 27/10/07 at 05:02 PM |
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£1500 ?..................
I would aim for that anyway.
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Peteff
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| posted on 27/10/07 at 05:12 PM |
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A salvage ZZR1100 is going to cost best part of £1000 so you don't know what it's going to end up at till you sell off your spare bits but
I would still guess it's going to be around £3000.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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ReMan
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| posted on 27/10/07 at 05:43 PM |
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Why would you want to SVA a track only car? Build it properly and save another £150.
SVA will not test your welding and if it looks crap, you wont need someone else telling you, you'll know yourself.
But elsewise, I think you could do it for £2000, is you pick up bargain bits
[Edited on 27/10/07 by ReMan]
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TimC
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| posted on 27/10/07 at 06:59 PM |
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Knowing that a friend of mine recently bought a 919 blade (whole bike) for £600 I'd aim for one of those - parts are then available off the
shelf and therefore cheaper.
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JoelP
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| posted on 27/10/07 at 07:31 PM |
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unavoidable expenses:
steel tubes 100
ally panels 100
sierra donor parts (wheels hubs brakes diff rack etc) 100
bike engine (zx9, blade etc) 300
exhaust (homemade?) 300 if bought
prop 200
adapter 50
loom, clocks etc 50
battery 30
seats 50
slicks 50
sump mods/baffle 100
radiator and plumbing 70
1200 there. What have i missed?! Would you want a roll cage?
springs! gotta be 150 there.
[Edited on 27/10/07 by JoelP]
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swalf3
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| posted on 27/10/07 at 07:40 PM |
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cheap BEC
There is an R1Turboed engined MK for sale on Racecars Direct priced at £40000 but will accept £3500.Engine is FI ,done 300 miles and has newly been
built.John Mcintosh is the owner and I have seen photographs of the car.Looks good and he reckons its faster than the Busa cars he has raced
against.Id like to see anybody build that for the amounts people are saying theirs have cost.He spent £9K on it,I believe him.I'm not related in
any way or connected to him just share the same enthusiasm for self built cars.swalf3
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JoelP
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| posted on 27/10/07 at 07:47 PM |
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http://www.racecarsdirect.com/viewlisting.php?view=12798
 thats a lot of car for the money!
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 27/10/07 at 08:11 PM |
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I bought a part built, sold the engine, used the cash to pay for blade engine and the extras to make it work.
There are few extras you need to take into account - whislt you MIGHT be able to get a zzr1100 engine for £300, you;d be lukcy for it to include
carbs, airbox, starter motor, loom and ECU. Also some cheap engine arrive with casings missing... one to watch for from sneeky breakers - these all
add to the cost considerabley.
If you get the part built at the right price then I think you could build one for £1750, but it aint gonna be a minter.
One thing to consider which worx helped me to understand is:
going a well known engine route (blade/r1) it will make it worth more if you ever come to sell it and I have also found out since listening to his
point - it means that second hand parts are floating round - 2nd hand exhaust etc. which is helping me keep the costs down.
all the best!
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zilspeed
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| posted on 27/10/07 at 08:15 PM |
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Regarding John MacIntosh's car for sale above. It's an Angus Locost...
Does anyone remember that whole story from a few years back ?
[Edited on 27/10/07 by zilspeed]
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Simon
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| posted on 27/10/07 at 08:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by swalf3
Id like to see anybody build that for the amounts people are saying theirs have cost.He spent £9K on it,I believe him.I'm not related in any way
or connected to him just share the same enthusiasm for self built cars.swalf3
Is that a challenge?
<------ cost me £3,000 (including SVA £210/RFL £200 and Ins £238, so £2,300) and that included a few purchasing cock-ups along the way.
quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
...... but it aint gonna be a minter.
all the best!
For strictly track use, I should hope not
ATB
Simon
[Edited on 27/10/07 by Simon]
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 27/10/07 at 08:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
Regarding John MacIntosh's car for sale above. It's an Angus Locost...
Does anyone remember that whole story from a few years back ?
[Edited on 27/10/07 by zilspeed]
nope - tell the new boy plz
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 27/10/07 at 09:03 PM |
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Remember it well, takes me back to the yahoo bec list days, ps I know its still going but no where near as active.
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zilspeed
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| posted on 27/10/07 at 09:09 PM |
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Long story short.
Geezer offers fully built fireblade engined cars for £4,500.
Takes lots of deposits from lots of excited people.
Disappears.
That's about it really.
I bumped into him a couple of years back at a few hillclimbs, but he's a big guy...
[Edited on 27/10/07 by zilspeed]
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