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2b_pablo

posted on 22/2/08 at 12:29 PM Reply With Quote
locost way to weigh car?

any locost ways to weight my kitcar? in situ in the garage rather than using weighbridges etc.

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02GF74

posted on 22/2/08 at 12:31 PM Reply With Quote
yes, drive into a large bucket of water and collect all the water displaced, pour into smaller containers or a one of known volume since you can assume that 1 litre = 1 kg and add it all up.






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2b_pablo

posted on 22/2/08 at 12:33 PM Reply With Quote
right, where can I get a 7 sized bucket?





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Macbeast

posted on 22/2/08 at 12:34 PM Reply With Quote
Assuming it floats.
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02GF74

posted on 22/2/08 at 12:35 PM Reply With Quote
B&Q in the garden pond department. Water is usually found inside your sink tap.






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Mr Whippy

posted on 22/2/08 at 12:37 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by 02GF74
yes, drive into a large bucket of water and collect all the water displaced, pour into smaller containers or a one of known volume since you can assume that 1 litre = 1 kg and add it all up.


Your plan is flawed as this would only work for parts that were the same density as water, plus the air in the tires would make it even lighter. Sorry to be picky





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RickRick

posted on 22/2/08 at 12:38 PM Reply With Quote
i think so long as it floats then it'll be correct
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Mr Whippy

posted on 22/2/08 at 12:47 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RickRick
i think so long as it floats then it'll be correct


A floating ship will displace only the water equivalent to its own weight. But a submerged ship will displace the same amount of water whether it's made of metal or foam. Therefore your right it has to float.

Anyone tried a 7 in the water? I think it should float quite well. I always wanted to get my buggy sealed up to make it amphibious as it's like a bath with wheels.

[Edited on 22/2/08 by Mr Whippy]





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ditchlewis

posted on 22/2/08 at 12:54 PM Reply With Quote
how about 4 sets of bathroom scales. they read up to say 120kg, so unless you have a porker of a car should work. see if there are any scales in your local pound shop

if the scales are to cheap you may still be left guessing what the weight is

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Dangle_kt

posted on 22/2/08 at 12:57 PM Reply With Quote
what happens if you STACK scales? You could test it by weighing soemthing you know the weight of (you) and calebrate the scales so you know what equates to what (as long as it doesn't work exponetially or similar...)

Then buy 8 scales (£4 ea in tesco) and try it out.

I only needed four as the rolling chassis was not too heavy.

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RickRick

posted on 22/2/08 at 01:08 PM Reply With Quote
i'm fairly sure if you put one on top of the other, and for isntance put 100kg on it, the top one would read 100kg the second would read 100kg + the weight of the scale above
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DaveFJ

posted on 22/2/08 at 01:14 PM Reply With Quote
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i think so long as it floats then it'll be correct


If it floats doesn't that mean it weighs the same as a duck? And if that is so doesn't it mean that it must be made of wood? and therefore it should be burnt......

I'll get my coat





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Richard Quinn

posted on 22/2/08 at 01:14 PM Reply With Quote
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STACK scales?
Are they the ones with the max weight tell-tale???

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Richard Quinn

posted on 22/2/08 at 01:16 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by 02GF74
yes, drive into a large bucket of water and collect all the water displaced, pour into smaller containers or a one of known volume since you can assume that 1 litre = 1 kg and add it all up.
If you want it really accurate, bear in mind that this should be at 4 deg C!!

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2b_pablo

posted on 22/2/08 at 01:41 PM Reply With Quote
PMSL @ some of the responses! Bought a set of £20 scales from B&Q go up to 150kgs so should be ok.

will let you know how it goes





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02GF74

posted on 22/2/08 at 01:41 PM Reply With Quote
I was thinking of using air as another method. For example place a block of wood on two 2 litre Tesco value water bottles filled with air and then drive car on top.

The bottles should flatten and by measuing this, it should be able to work out the wieght either by calculating or by calibrating.

To stop the car from sinking, put it inside a largre polythene bag.

[Edited on 22/2/08 by 02GF74]






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2b_pablo

posted on 22/2/08 at 01:45 PM Reply With Quote
I could also use Prof Frinks "De-biggifier" and shrink it x100. then pop it onto my wifes cooking scales and "re-biggify" it once I get my reading.

Multiplying the result by 100 of course





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james h

posted on 22/2/08 at 01:48 PM Reply With Quote
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If it floats doesn't that mean it weighs the same as a duck? And if that is so doesn't it mean that it must be made of wood? and therefore it should be burnt......

I'll get my coat




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DaveFJ

posted on 22/2/08 at 01:49 PM Reply With Quote
One of my colleagues has just suggested stripping the car down to it's littlest components and then standing on a pair of bathroom scales holding each part and subtracting your weight.. then just add up all the results.....

He got his own coat.....





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Fred W B

posted on 22/2/08 at 01:52 PM Reply With Quote
Secure a plank to a piece of pipe or something as a pivot so that 12” sticks out one side, 48” on the other. Put the 12” side under the front of the car, put a scale on the end of the 48” side. Push down on the scale with your foot and note the mass just as the car lifts. Times by four to get the mass at that end. Repeat at other end of the car, add together. Should be good enough for jazz

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02GF74

posted on 22/2/08 at 02:13 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 2b_pablo
I could also use Prof Frinks "De-biggifier" and shrink it x100. then pop it onto my wifes cooking scales and "re-biggify" it once I get my reading.

Multiplying the result by 100 of course


that would work but you would need to mltiply by 1,00,000 as object is a solid 3 dimensional.

ofcourse it may be quicker to bigify the scales.






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Phil.J

posted on 22/2/08 at 02:40 PM Reply With Quote
If It's super light I've got an accurate hanging scales I want rid of, weighs up to 600 lb/ 300 Kg. Yours for £40.
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2b_pablo

posted on 22/2/08 at 02:42 PM Reply With Quote
wouldnt have anything to hang from sorry mate.





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MikeCapon

posted on 22/2/08 at 02:45 PM Reply With Quote
This is a wonderful forum. You can even tell what day it is. From this thread it's obviously Friday afternoon





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james h

posted on 22/2/08 at 02:47 PM Reply With Quote
Personally the best way by far is to go to sea level and time the frequency of an oscillating pendulum (with simple harmonic motion).

Repeat with the pendulum next to the car and measure the difference in the time period. With this you can work out the effect of the car's mass and thus derive its weight.

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