next one is due this sunday,the weather looks rubbish again tho and it has been suggested we try a different location,tattenham corner near epsom race
course(no you cant take your car round) was suggested...so over to the masses of the WLM massive
Closer for me , nice tea hut on downs if weather OK but no shelter.
Long way for Robocog type people.
Bugger off Conrod, bloody Newlands is far enough, although it is a nice run, :-)
Cheers Ray
Weather's looking shite...
ill take that as a no then
indoors at ryka's then for the start of the autumnal/winter season?
We need to find somewhere groovy, a bit nearer to the Robo's and Chippy's.
Sort of just south of Guildford , or on a Horsham latitude.
Or is there still the cafe on the A3 in the trees near the A3/M25 intersection Wisley pond??
But I'm quite happy to go along to Noolands again!
[Edited on 3/10/08 by Surrey Dave]
jhat,s james,s dogging spot dave and the food is rubbish
there is/was a greasy spoon at cowfold,anyone know it?
http://www.bikercafes.com/venues.cfm/the-chalet-cafe
[Edited on 3/10/08 by theconrodkid]
The Chalet Cafe, Cowfold is opened on Sunday
http://ccmriders.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=121&Itemid=86
41 miles from me, and at least another 25 from Rob's. Would be nice if we could find a place nearer, or on the A3. Cheers Ray
i had a google under "cafe" or "transport cafe" in surrey,got a few hits but i dont know the area that well,any locals want to
have a go?
I thnk there is a cafe on the A3 at hindhead (devils punchbowl) not sure if its open on sundays though.
Just checked the weather for tomorrow it doesnt look promising.
[Edited on 4/10/08 by martthefridgeman]
quote:
Originally posted by Surrey Dave
Or is there still the cafe on the A3 in the trees near the A3/M25 intersection Wisley pond??
[Edited on 3/10/08 by Surrey Dave]
devils punchbowl is £2 to park and £3-50 bacon roll territory,there must be a transport type cafe where you can get a full English for 2/6
quote:
Originally posted by theconrodkid
devils punchbowl is £2 to park and £3-50 bacon roll territory,there must be a transport type cafe where you can get a full English for 2/6
Fozz,thats where james does his dogging
quote:
Originally posted by theconrodkid
Fozz,thats where james does his dogging
Yes Rob that is Wisley Airfield. An old WW2 airfield, which after the war was used by Vickers for plane testing.
Currently earmarked for composting/incinerator useage... 
The runway is very lumpy and broken in places, and tbh not found a way to get on it.
When we last looked, you cannot get on to it with a car from Elm Lane, but not tried from Old Lane.... maybe worth a reckie......
Fozzie
Edit to add....if you carry on down Old Lane, to the crossroads, on the left, there is a pub known to us locals as The Mucky Duck (Black Swan), do a
right at the crossroads into Ockham Lane and it looks a possibilty that you can get to it from there? .... not seen that from the road before...
[Edited on 4-10-08 by Fozzie]
Cars not running still waiting part (19mm hose joint) should have made it myself like last one but for some reason i had an urge to spend my
hard earned .
weathers looks iffy anyway
And for these reasons i'm out
What's all this ' I'm Out ' too much ' Dragons Den!!!!!!
I'm looking out the window in the morning , before " I'm Out!!"
I've looked out of the window and:
I'm Out!!
quote:
Originally posted by Surrey Dave
I've looked out of the window and:
I'm Out!!
I think we should make any Sunday a possible meet , as it is so weather dependent , and just try to take advantage of any good weather breaks.
quote:
Originally posted by Surrey Dave
I've looked out of the window and:
I'm Out!!
quote:
Originally posted by Surrey Dave
I think we should make any Sunday a possible meet , as it is so weather dependent , and just try to take advantage of any good weather breaks.
so as not to suffer withdraws i went to lidl and bought some bacon,eggs,tomatoes and bread for a fry up,even picked up a Czech blondie to cook it for
me for less than £20
quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie
quote:
Originally posted by Surrey Dave
I think we should make any Sunday a possible meet , as it is so weather dependent , and just try to take advantage of any good weather breaks.
Seconded
. OK every sunday it is then.
as long as its not lashing down
I was rather intrigued by the disused airfield mentioned by Rob and Fozzie, so finding myself in that part of the world today, had a quick recce.
There is open access to the airstrip in Ockham Lane, directly south of the eastern tip of the airstrip. If this link works it should show exactly
where it is:-
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=wisley+uk&ie=UTF8&ll=51.303467,-0.443745&spn=0.012718,0.027637&t=h&
z=15&iwloc=addr
.......I drove the full length of the runway, and it's actually in remarkably good condition, considering how long it's been there. Ok,
there's plenty of weeds growing through cracks in the tarmac, but I didn't see any major potholes and it's perfectly drivable down
it's full length. (1.1 miles and I guess about 70yds wide)
Spoke to a very poshe lady on horseback, who said that the police regularly use it for driver training, and Scrapheap Challenge have apparently filmed
there too. It's surrounded by farmland, but not the prettiest spot in the world, TBH honest you'd only want to go there if you wanted to
actively play with the cars, ie. set up ms, try out each others cars, etc.
Not sure about the legality side of using it, but it sounds like we wouldn't be the first to do so, there appear to be a couple of sevens
'playing' there when the google earth shot was taken. So possibly a venue for a future playtime?
OMG, have the WLM found their own racetrack/drag strip???
I remember looking at this when I was building as I remembered it from waaay back as a kid. Was convinced by various peeps it was impossible to get
onto. Silly sods.
Even more determined to get my car on the road now!
Brilliant investigative work Geoff!
I knew it was there but didnt think it was possible to gain access, well done geoff
Its allways been on my mind when i leave the A3 at that junction on my way to Newlands, i have even taken the road to west horsley on the way to see
if there are sign posts.
Is it still under ownership of the MOD ?
Maybe scutter can find out, as it would better to be on the strip legally. I would think if we used it without permission the locals who live within
earshot would be onto the rozzers straight away.
Ok, a bit more info from said poshe lady.....
The site has apparently been bought by a business condominium (sp?)who are planning to turn it into some sort of recycling plant. Needless to say the
locals are overjoyed by this, she seemed to think it stood no chance getting planning permission.
Anyway, I digress, one of this condominium is a guy she only knew as 'Alistair' who resides at Pound Farm, just up the road from the Ockham
Lane entrance. I took a trip up there, but unfortunately the place was like the Mary Celeste, certainly no sign of 'Alistair' so I gave up
on it.
I think Bob is right, we need to get some sort of permission to use the site, although the worse that would probably happen is that we would get
turfed off.
So ideally we need someone to pop into Pound Farm and see if they can find Alistair, and ask him the question. Three possible outcomes I would think
:-
a) Turned down flat.
b) Ok, but how much are you going to pay me?
c) Ok.
Anybody likely to be in that part of the world in the near future?
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Originally posted by GeoffT
Ok, a bit more info from said poshe lady.....
The site has apparently been bought by a business condominium (sp?)who are planning to turn it into some sort of recycling plant.
Anyway, I digress, one of this condominium is a guy she only knew as 'Alistair' who resides at Pound Farm, just up the road from the Ockham Lane entrance. I took a trip up there, but unfortunately the place was like the Mary Celeste, certainly no sign of 'Alistair' so I gave up on it.
Okee dokee.....after much sleuthing, I came across this........and it is current......
See the 9th post....
Click Me
So anyone in/near Guildford that has a bit of spare time, want to phone/write to the council ?
Fozzie
Rob, its not far from the caff Dave and I were talking about earlier......the caff is at the A3 end of Old Lane!
DLT and I had tea and roll there not long ago...not bad at all, but I'm fine with a flask and a sarnie from home.....
Only trouble is, for me there is good news and bad news....
Bad news is I'm not allowed out to play for a week or 2...
Because.....
Good news is...... , we take over the lease of a new unit on Monday, and we have stuff to move...
Fozzie
To be honest, the more I read about this place, the less likely seem the chances of anyone challenging us. I doubt the police have any powers there as
it's on private land, so unless an 'owner' comes along and says "bugger orf" I don't really see how anyone could stop
us. Obviously, if he's waving a shotgun in your face, you'd be polite
In fact if we use the far west end of the airstrip (where the best tarmac is) I reckon you'd be around 1/2 mile from the nearest inhabited
dwelling, and the A3 would probably drown out any noise we'd make anyway. Whadya reckon?
Edit to add:- Yes Rob that's the place. I'm starting to feel now though that if you ask you're probably going to get a 'no'
, but if we just go there and disappear down the far end, nobody is going to be the wiser...... But if you want to ring, feel free.
[Edited on 7/10/08 by GeoffT]
Do you really need to ask? 
Though we might have to change our name from WLM to WLM-ASBO's.....
Fozzie
forecast is a bit better for this weekend so where,s it going to be?
Mmmm, Sunny
ATB Dan.
Oooh, I'm getting excited!
The little buzz you get when you do something naughty!
At the end of the day trespass isn't really a crime!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trespass
Well done to all the PIs involved!
Cheers,
James
EDIT: Anyone got a scanner so we can listen out for the Rozzer's?
[Edited on 8/10/08 by James]
quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie
See the 9th post....
Spare track
I'm bored and in Guildford....
guess where I'm off to!
Waiting to see what you've found out
Dan.
I did it!
Didn't have any credit at the time as was gonna text Foz to say: "Guess where I am"!.
Interesting trip.... got onto the airfield as per Geoff's instructions. (I must have been dsitracted as apparently there's a sign saying no
vehicular access... but I missed it till I left. ) There's a pot holed dirt track that leads to the field. The big circle halfway along the
track is just filled with manure.
Place appeared to be deserted.
Drove onto the strip itself, the concrete is in ok condition, but it's covered in a lot of loose stones or gravel which I'm not sure is
helpful for our purposes.
Started to drive down the strip. About halfway down spotted a few vehicles and people off in the far distance. Got a bit worried but soon realised
they were flying model aeroplanes!
Went a bit further then decided to turn round and leave as was still a bit scared! .
Drove all the way round to the Elm Lane entrance. There is 0% chance of getting onto the airfield here with vehicles. But there is easy access on
foot. Walked bloomin miles from here all the way to the West end of the strip, and was very lucky to get a free air show from the model aeroplane guys
that were there.
As I walked up to them (with Mum for protection! ) I saw a small tractor type thing drive off back up the airfield.
As Geoff said, this is a much, much better maintained area of concrete. Hardly any gravel and few plants growing through and not a single house
overlooks it. So I generally felt quite positive about us being able to have our cars on there and not knacker them!
Chatted with the modellers a bit about planes. Eventually plucked up courage for the question about what they do about access. Was told that the club
has "permission" from the farmer.
I said: "does he own the strip?"
"No, he's just a tenant farmer, but he 'manages' it. And the club has permission".
I got the impression that the guy who'd just buggered off on the tractor was said farmer. I didn't like to ask too many questions.... maybe
I should have, but didnt want to annoy them!
At that point I left them to it. It really is a lovely area, specially the walk back to Elm Lane, it's amazingly quiet (apart from A3 background
noise) with lots of 'nature'. The homeowners nearby must be bricking themselves about an estate or incinerator/waste disposal being built
there!!!
So, all in all, I still think it's a viable possibility for us. The whole "farmer manages it" bit sounds like a way he makes a few
quid! Fozzie's website makes no mention from the owners of the land of a farmer who manages.
One thing my Mum reckoned was if a young hooligan type like me goes to ask "the farmer" then it's gonna more likely engender a
"no" than if a more sensible person like Fozzie or Geoff etc. ask him!!! Cheers Mum!
So maybe we make an approach as 'Locost Car Club' or something sensible sounding and take it from there.
Or, we just risk it and run a few laps.... see what happens!
Anyway, hope that's of interest. I sacrificed fitting my 2nd Triton seat for this!!!
Cheers,
James P.I.
[Edited on 9/10/08 by James]
Nice one James, it's an interesting site, isn't it? Worth a visit just to take look, it seems amazing that such a huge site has remained
relatively undiscovered all these years.
I'm starting to think now that the 'Alistair' I was advised to see may have been the farm manager - I think I may have somewhat
'assumed' (during my conversation with lady on horseback) that he was one of the business partners, this is probably not the case.
I suspect that not everyone is keen to venture with our cars onto private land, quite understandably really. Maybe we should have a 'normal'
meet this weekend (Newlands..?) and see how people feel?
if it all goes pear shaped there is a runway near me that a sprint club uses,i could have words about that
quote:
Originally posted by GeoffT
Nice one James, it's an interesting site, isn't it? Worth a visit just to take look, it seems amazing that such a huge site has remained relatively undiscovered all these years.
What's 'appenin' sunday?
sunday,newlands,eat bacon,drink tea,talk rubbish,go home and watch hamilton slaughter the red cars
Newlands sounds good to me.
I warn you though, I might be in a mood at my car not be road legal!
Yup Newlands is probably the best idea, we can have a good debate/chat over this runway.
Its not just my opinion but it would be best if we sorted something with the farmer/estate manager instead of just pouring onto the said site.
It has been used a couple of times in the last year or two for a histpric bus rally, once within the last few months. I drive past the end of the road
on the a3 most days until today (new job monday) and saw the sign posts they had up for it.
I looked into this a while back myself and drove round it on roads but never managed to get onto the strip.
Sure I've posted about it in the past, will have a dig about.
Ned.
The bus rally is booked in for april 2009.
linky
scroll down
I'll hopefully see you all through the fog that's due.
Around 09.30hrs?
ATB Dan.
Was out for a run this very morning in the fog, phew a real pea souper on the 316 at kempton water works but blue sky and sun when i got to
Brentford.
Probs be the same tomorow with all that water i have to pass on the way to Newlands, see you there
Water, i expect the Thames valley may be quite foggy, Looks like the cross country route is favourate, via reading
ATB Dan.