Evening, looking to do my first track day in April and have been told by a few mates that i should be fitting a dry sump. I understand the basics of why i should have one but i'm Newbie so not sure where to start... Can anyone help with the following?

1. How can I tell if one has been fitted?
2. I assume i don't have one fitted so where can i order one from and what sort of cost should they be?
3. Are they easy to fit - not the most knowledgeable so if might be worth paying someone to do it - what would be a rough cost for someone to fit?

I live in Stockport, Manchester so does anyone know of a local garage that deal with westies that could help?

Thanks in advance, Barry.

[Edited on 3/2/16 by baslow]

You'll be fine on a well designed an baffled wet sump with the 919! They are superb little motors!
Ab performance do them in billet alloy I think.

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Originally posted by baslow
Evening, looking to do my first track day in April and have been told by a few mates that i should be fitting a dry sump. I understand the basics of why i should have one but i'm Newbie so not sure where to start... Can anyone help with the following?

1. How can I tell if one has been fitted?
2. I assume i don't have one fitted so where can i order one from and what sort of cost should they be?
3. Are they easy to fit - not the most knowledgeable so if might be worth paying someone to do it - what would be a rough cost for someone to fit?

I live in Stockport, Manchester so does anyone know of a local garage that deal with westies that could help?

Thanks in advance, Barry.

[Edited on 3/2/16 by baslow]

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You want an accusump on it if pressing really hard as well, pull the bung out that the fuel pressure sensor sits in drill out and weld in a 1/2" BSP fitting and bolt up.

Most people get away with baffle plate and 200ml overfill, you only need the billet sump if the engin is hanging low.

[Edited on 3/2/16 by mark chandler]

So one of these - http://www.abperformance.co.uk/products.aspx?cat=11&scat=32

with a 200ml over fill. The engine is 100mm of the ground so would i need the billet sump?

Not wanting to spend load if i can help it but i don't want to buying a new engine either! Do you think an accusump is necessary or should i try the above first with me being a novice do you think?

Confident i can fir the sump but drilling and welding is not my bag...

cheers Barry

£30 baffle, standard sump 200ml overfill and you should be fine on road tyres, I run on slicks so it gets thrown about a lot more.

To put your mind at rest fit a big light on the oil pressure switch so you can see it clearly, if it flickers on hard bends then you know it's being starved of oil and to slow down.

Thanks Mark. I'm struggling to find one... Is it one of these? http://www.abperformance.co.uk/products.aspx?cat=12

I agree with the warning light - i was going to get one of these: http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performance/dash-warning-lights/trillogy-led-warning-lights

I've got a Haynes manual but to point me in the right direction... any idea's where i would wire this too?

cheers Barry

That's the plate, just bolts between the sump and crank casing, 20 minutes to put in

Any light that catches your eye, I would go for a big LED as the switch in the sender may not have a great load rating, battery off the ignition <> light bulb <> pressure switch tucked under the clutch cover.

You need a big light or you will miss it, LED Reflector Red Rear Tail Brake Stop Marker Light Truck Trailer SUV Motorcycle



[Edited on 4/2/16 by mark chandler]

Have you had the sump off?

I have owned mine for 3years now, and covered a fair few miles and quite a number of track days with road tyres and slicks

The only issues I have had with oil, is when my sump plug fell out, or when I messed around with the sump and caused grief for myself.

With the standard sump, no baffle plate and the oil filled just to the top mark on the sight... never an issue.

I fitted an oil pressure gauge just to give me a heads up if something is going to go wrong so hopefully I can knock the engine off in time. And on long fast corners, left or right, the pressure stays up where it should be.

So I would suggest fitting a gauge first before spending £XXX and see if there is actually an issue before, trying to solve and issue that doesnt exist.
Obviously if you fit the gauge and the pressure is dropping when it shouldn't be then do something to fix it

Thanks for the info guys. I've not had the sump off yet...

I've ordered a baffle plate from Andy at AB and also a warning light.. I'm going to fit it when i get back from holiday so will let you know how it goes.

thanks again, Barry

How do you know that doesn't already have a baffle plate fitted?
Ab has done a lot of work on 919 blade engined kits.somit may already have one!

That's true i don't!

I have receipts from the person i bought it off for everything since new and there is no mention of a baffle plate... My logic is that once i have the sump off and there is no baffle plate then i have one to fit - If it does have one then I've got one to return or sell.

cheers

Evening gents,

Baffle plate has arrived, i have drained the oil and removed 14 bolts off the catch pan this evening. The problem is the catch pan seems to be seized on. I've tried twisting it of and giving it some with a rubber mallet but it won't budge. I'm sceptable about trying to wedge anything in so whats the best way to remove it please so i don't cause damage.

cheers

Did you order a new sump gasket?

I didn't, I got sealant instead...

It must be glued on with sealant, I would try knocking some Stanley knife blades into the join to act as wedges

Good idea Mark, I'll give that a go tomorrow. Failing that any other ideas? Cheers

Hi mark, that worked like a dream! Baffle fitted everything back in place and oil in with no leaks. Thanks for all you r help. I have a track day booked at oulten and a mate said I need to have a tow ring incase of an incident. I have nothing front or rear, what should I do? Cheers

I think people use the roll bar if they don't have a towing eye,but you need to make sure they pull the car straight and not on a angle!

When are you at oulton park?

I'm only 30 odd miles away so might call in if I'm off work

12th April. First one too! Is there anything else I should be doing to get it track ready? Fitted the oil warning light too as well as above. How do you use the roll bar, does something need welding? Cheers

No,just put the tow strap around the bar!

Ref track prep,spanner check all suspension bolts etc I would.

I ran out of fuel going into knicker brook at oulton a few years back! It felt like a lifetime gettin towed all the way back to the pits from there.

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Originally posted by daniel mason
I ran out of fuel going into knicker brook at oulton a few years back! It felt like a lifetime gettin towed all the way back to the pits from there.

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Originally posted by baslow
12th April. First one too! Is there anything else I should be doing to get it track ready? Fitted the oil warning light too as well as above. How do you use the roll bar, does something need welding? Cheers

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i am pal. i'm just getting everything ready now.... fingers crossed for weather.
hopefully see you there if you can get down.

cheers