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coozer - 17/1/07 at 09:59 PM

Absolute bargain, wish they had two I could buy.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ford-Escort-GP4-rally-car_W0QQitemZ280069010655QQihZ018QQcategoryZ9844QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Oops, heres the other one!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MK1-Escort-RS1600-rally-car-for-restoration_W0QQitemZ290070569824QQihZ019QQcategoryZ9844QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Now then, wheres me wallet darling?


Volvorsport - 17/1/07 at 11:03 PM

£30k for a pinto engined escort?


24vseven - 17/1/07 at 11:10 PM

yep thats the going rate i build these have a lok at mine on my pic this it has a 5k back axel 1.5k brake calipers 2k gearbox 3k engine this is all suplied prices no labour cost taken into account i have friends who spend 100k on them

on a slightly different note i break escorts so if you need any parts drop me a line


Volvorsport - 17/1/07 at 11:16 PM

ahhh , time to start working on escorts .

well if you know des moore in ireland im sure he can point you in the right direction for a decent back end that wont cost £5k .

£1.5k on brake calipers is that all four ?


24vseven - 18/1/07 at 12:07 AM

yes thats all four and there ap jobbies as for the axel thats thick tube atlas skidded n braced fully floating alloy hubs thick quaif halfshafts zf lsd 4.6 cwp slipper kit n bilstine strurts gp4 wheel studs the list is endless


andylancaster3000 - 18/1/07 at 01:12 AM

RS1600?? Is that not the BDA engined car? If so, where is it?!

MK2: I saw that car a couple of weeks back. The story is he had a spare shell for his running rally car which he kept buying parts for. He ended up getting so close to a complete car that he finished it off and planned to start running it instead. But he was too scared of throwing it into a bush, having spent so much time and effort on it, that he just carried on with his original car. Hence, it's sale!

Really do like escorts. 20k..that all?! Saw an RS1800 for for 45000 the other week!

[Edited on 18/1/07 by andylancaster3000]


jollygreengiant - 18/1/07 at 04:33 AM

quote:
Originally posted by andylancaster3000
RS1600?? Is that not the BDA engined car? If so, where is it?!



Yep I'd agree with that one looks a bit more like a 1.6GT that was made up for a bit of local rallying. Especially with fibre glass bubble arches. If genuine then I think they should be steel.


luz008 - 18/1/07 at 10:50 AM

yeah its just a replica judging by the shell,engine and arches.
RS1600's fetch a fortune - scabby ones fetch over £10K (if they've still got the BDA)

[Edited on 18/1/07 by luz008]

[Edited on 18/1/07 by luz008]


24vseven - 18/1/07 at 11:42 AM

the mk1 looks a shead all that your getting with that is a log book and some mag minilights

my geuess is a mexico that someone has "reshelled"

a friend of mine sold a mk1 type 49 shell with a pinto stage 3 head cage coil over bilstines ect ect msa log book tax exempt for 3k all that needed was brakelines and a radiator had been welded and painted
allready


luz008 - 18/1/07 at 01:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by 24vseven
the mk1 looks a shead all that your getting with that is a log book and some mag minilights

my geuess is a mexico that someone has "reshelled"

a friend of mine sold a mk1 type 49 shell with a pinto stage 3 head cage coil over bilstines ect ect msa log book tax exempt for 3k all that needed was brakelines and a radiator had been welded and painted
allready


sounds abit cheap too me - he could have made some more money on that.


procomp - 18/1/07 at 02:08 PM

Hi it dose seem really hard to justify spending large sums on old escorts but there really is nothing like them.

The last customer we had running one kept it in his garage for a few years after totaling it on a stage off. We all kept looking at it and saying there has to be somthing salvagable to use but ended up selling it for relative peanuts.

Also had a customer running an ex works car many years ago. POO 504R reg if i remember . Wonder whereit isand what that is worth now if in good condition still.


cheers matt


24vseven - 18/1/07 at 04:27 PM

the mk1 was on e-blag with no takers but there was no pic with it wich didnt help

as for poo504r its still around somwhere i know a guy who has one of the bonnets from it lol

and there is nothing i have experenced yet like an escort sideways webber 45s sucking air by the bucket full and the perfect wine of a straight cut box and a lsd magic


Volvorsport - 18/1/07 at 07:52 PM

atlas replacement

http://www.dmrr.net/Transmission.HTM


gazza285 - 18/1/07 at 10:49 PM

Thats about a grand more than the Rally Design Atlas replacement axle the Hurcules. Bad name though.

As for the RS1600, you all must be Ford Gurus to be able to tell the differences between the Mexico shell and the RS1600 shell from a few small photos, and fancy putting cheap fibreglass wings on instead of the easily damaged and prohibitively expensive steel bubble arches, not to mention replacing the easily damaged and prohibitively expensive BDA engine.


24vseven - 18/1/07 at 11:01 PM

the colour was a give away nearly all rs1600's were white not mazie yellow as this is stated as being the origanal colour in the advert
would you buy a subaru and fit a beetle engine

as for the atlas replacement thats a good axel but its not historicaly correct pain i know but thats life

as for rally design had many bad experences with them

[Edited on 18/1/07 by 24vseven]


Peteff - 19/1/07 at 12:35 AM

I helped rebuild a Mk2 1600 Sport years ago in pale blue with original Rostyle wheels and it was a beautiful motor. It had turreted rear suspension and tramp bars, quick rack and proper standard wings with just a wider lip on the arch. What would that be worth now?


gazza285 - 19/1/07 at 04:18 AM

quote:
Originally posted by 24vseven
the colour was a give away nearly all rs1600's were white not maize yellow as this is stated as being the original colour in the advert
[Edited on 18/1/07 by 24vseven]



The RS1600 was made available in three colours, white, sunset red and maize yellow for four years of its production.

As for would I buy a Scooby and fit a Beetle engine? Hardly a relevant comparison, is it?


gazza285 - 19/1/07 at 04:27 AM

quote:
Originally posted by 24vseven
would you buy a subaru and fit a beetle engine






Why not replace the BDA with a Crossflow? Ford did with the World Cup cars in 1970, mind it only manages five of the top eight places.


24vseven - 19/1/07 at 08:29 PM

yes i did a little digging today and have to stand corrected on the statement about colour

as regards the engine conversion factor i geuss its all a matter of preference personaly i wouldnt have swaped a bda for a crossflow as it kind of defets the point of a rs1600

but if thats the way anyone wanted to go thast up to them

you only have to look what would it be worth with the correct engine to know its a shame

but at the end of the day its still a 2 door mk1 esscy with a lot of good bits


24vseven - 19/1/07 at 08:31 PM

Why not replace the BDA with a Crossflow? Ford did with the World Cup cars in 1970, mind it only manages five of the top eight places.






i think the drivers may have helped to tho


gazza285 - 20/1/07 at 06:05 AM

Who, Jimmy Greaves.


procomp - 22/1/07 at 08:32 AM

Hi whilst looking on the WSCC site i came across this thread . windys next project

Quite a good read with good pics aswell.

cheers matt

[Edited on 22/1/07 by procomp]