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Author: Subject: The case for not having a bike engine
zilspeed

posted on 17/4/12 at 08:51 PM Reply With Quote
The case for not having a bike engine

This here is what you want.

A Duratec in a decent mid engined chassis.

Yes, I know. Slicks, wings, race track.

But still, this here is what you want.

Properly properly quick.



[Edited on 17/4/12 by zilspeed]

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nick205

posted on 17/4/12 at 08:57 PM Reply With Quote
Pretty pokey then






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Dangle_kt

posted on 17/4/12 at 09:04 PM Reply With Quote
The point isn't that people want a "bike engine" nessisarily, its that they want a very light, very powerful, very intense driving experience and a sequential box - no CEC offers that as a package for anywhere near the value a bike engine can.

Yes it can be matched, and beaten by CEC's, but they are in another league cost wise, and so out of the reach of most locostbuilders.

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zilspeed

posted on 17/4/12 at 09:18 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
The point isn't that people want a "bike engine" nessisarily, its that they want a very light, very powerful, very intense driving experience and a sequential box - no CEC offers that as a package for anywhere near the value a bike engine can.

Yes it can be matched, and beaten by CEC's, but they are in another league cost wise, and so out of the reach of most locostbuilders.


Yes, I totally agree.

And with a bike engine, that's what they get.

Then after a short time, they realise that the driving experience they actually wanted was a teeny weeny bit less immersive than screaming banzai maximum attack, for sure, full on, mentalist on speed, psycho nutte,r crystal meth vinegar in the eyeballs, kick to the nads, bonkers trip.

Maybe.

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matt_gsxr

posted on 17/4/12 at 09:21 PM Reply With Quote
don't take the bait!
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zilspeed

posted on 17/4/12 at 09:27 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by matt_gsxr
don't take the bait!



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Norton91

posted on 17/4/12 at 09:30 PM Reply With Quote
Personally my bec pulls away in third can be driven in 6th at 30mph is quiteish and goes like hell when I want and I change gear on full throttle by pushing a button on the steering wheel, the car weighs 545 kg fully laden with petrol tools hood etc. Long live 1340cc Hayabusa engines.
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big-vee-twin

posted on 17/4/12 at 09:31 PM Reply With Quote
WoHoo, go Duratec!!





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Dusty

posted on 17/4/12 at 10:13 PM Reply With Quote
Looked good lapping the tailenders. Wonder what the fast guys were driving?
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phelpsa

posted on 17/4/12 at 10:14 PM Reply With Quote
But here's what you ACTUALLY really want, complete with bike engine....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hvSAsBi7As








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zilspeed

posted on 17/4/12 at 10:18 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dusty
Looked good lapping the tailenders. Wonder what the fast guys were driving?


The camera car is a Gunn TS11

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zilspeed

posted on 17/4/12 at 10:25 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by phelpsa
But here's what you ACTUALLY really want, complete with bike engine....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hvSAsBi7As




Oh, I like the hills, not too sure with Forces though.

I know bikes engines are everywhere in the hills these days, but I do like a big engined sportscar or single seater.

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maccmike

posted on 17/4/12 at 11:01 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
quote:
Originally posted by phelpsa
But here's what you ACTUALLY really want, complete with bike engine....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hvSAsBi7As

Wow!!

Ill stick with my bike engine thanks.

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Volvorsport

posted on 17/4/12 at 11:24 PM Reply With Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWn3pkrE0zM&feature=related

dont need no stinky bike engine......





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wylliezx9r

posted on 18/4/12 at 07:41 AM Reply With Quote
All this BEC v CEC is rubbish, my next build is going to use an aero engine





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alister667

posted on 18/4/12 at 11:39 AM Reply With Quote
You johnny come latelys make me sick.

It's steam or nothing!

PUFF PUFF!





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roadrunner

posted on 18/4/12 at 11:50 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dusty
Looked good lapping the tailenders. Wonder what the fast guys were driving?

2.6 V8 becs.

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scootz

posted on 18/4/12 at 11:57 AM Reply With Quote
How many bikes have a 2.6 V8?





It's Evolution Baby!

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MikeCapon

posted on 18/4/12 at 12:03 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
How many bikes have a 2.6 V8?


Two









Hayabusas

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jossey

posted on 18/4/12 at 12:11 PM Reply With Quote
That woud be nice 2 busa's mmmmm





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Twin40

posted on 18/4/12 at 12:17 PM Reply With Quote
mmmmm....



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scootz

posted on 18/4/12 at 12:28 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MikeCapon
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
How many bikes have a 2.6 V8?


Two









Hayabusas








It's Evolution Baby!

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Agriv8

posted on 18/4/12 at 12:36 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Twin40
mmmmm....





Thats Almost 'not work safe' definatly engine porn





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brookie

posted on 18/4/12 at 02:57 PM Reply With Quote
is that the one they use in the new v8 atom
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kb58

posted on 21/4/12 at 11:36 PM Reply With Quote
For me the decision was simple:
Street use? Bike engine is unfriendly and fussy, plus no reverse.
Track only? Bike engine is perfection.

[Edited on 4/21/12 by kb58]





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