Mr Whippy
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 01:53 PM |
|
|
Shower or a bath or a shower/bath?
Yeah I know this site is about cars but I’m building some 2 bedroom houses which have the room for either a shower or a bath but not both so I was
wondering these days does anyone use a bath? I know we only use ours for the kids but a 2 bedroom house would not normally what you’d have if you have
kids. Tbh my kids love the shower anyway so is a bath more an unimportant relic from the past which takes up loads of space but hardly ever used?
What do you think -
[Edited on 15/10/15 by Mr Whippy]
|
|
|
|
|
swanny
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 01:58 PM |
|
|
a few years ago when i was selling a two bed terraced house the estate agent told me it might be an idea to get a bath with an over shower re
instated, as people preferred the option and its keeps your market as big as possible.
|
|
|
Mr Whippy
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 02:03 PM |
|
|
hmm I just takes up quite a bit of the room, they need to invent a vertical bath 
|
|
|
lsdweb
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 02:07 PM |
|
|
If you're building to sell, how about giving the option to the buyer(s).
|
|
|
swanny
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 02:07 PM |
|
|
http://www.firstbathrooms.co.uk/ideal_standard_space_1200mm_x_700mm_bath_-_no_tap_holes-p-3230.html
|
|
|
Slimy38
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 02:10 PM |
|
|
I never use a bath, but I'd also not use a standard shower as I find them very claustrophobic. Bath with shower above it works for me.
|
|
|
tegwin
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 02:10 PM |
|
|
I really dislike shower-baths... I have never seen one that looks good and doesnt leak...
I had to install one in my house when I rennovated it because when I come to sell it, it will make an ideal family home... If I was planning to stay
here it would have just been a proper shower...leaving room for a car parts store in the corner of the bathroom or something...
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Would the last person who leaves the country please switch off the lights and close the door!
www.verticalhorizonsmedia.tv
|
|
|
Mr Whippy
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 02:13 PM |
|
|
What about a bath sunk into the floor of a wet room with a wooden grating you lifted up to reveal the bath and also has a shower nozzle on the wall?
 that would be cool and work
The 3 houses are for my two very young daughters and my sisters daughter for once they have grown up enough to be kicked out but in the meantime will
be rented to pay off the mortgages. My folks have kindly given the kids the land and I’m building these houses now my own house has been paid off.
|
|
|
jps
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 02:25 PM |
|
|
The bath is handy for more than just having a bath! It's where we wash out paint brushes, I clean my filthy cycling clothing and just last week
- where we hosed off puke covered bedclothes when my son got hit by a vomiting bug...
|
|
|
David Jenkins
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 02:36 PM |
|
|
I have just had my tiny bathroom converted to shower only - I never used the bath, and standing in it having a shower was inconvenient. Now I only
have a decent-sized shower cubicle, basin and WC - and have a lot more floor space.
It might go against me if I ever choose to sell the house, but we're in no hurry to move. We've been here for about 30 years so far!
|
|
|
David Jenkins
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 02:40 PM |
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
hmm I just takes up quite a bit of the room, they need to invent a vertical bath
The Japanese have had them for centuries!
Japanese tubs
|
|
|
ReMan
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 02:44 PM |
|
|
I had this quandry some years ago newly in this house and with a minging bathroom with a shower over bath under window (looking over the front of the
house, basically the worst combination
In it current format due to the small size there was no other option to re-arrange the bathroom so it was either re-fit exactly the same or take this
decsion.
We'd got no kids under 5, so figured that a really good shower would be better than any slippy, leaky, curtainy, electricy bath over shower
anyway
So we fitted a large quadrant in a different corner of the room and with a proper power pump thing off the hot water
In summary never regretted it as with a choice of a bath or shower in normal life 99/100 we'd shower for speed and egfficiency and its a really
nice shower.
The only time we miss it is in a blue moon and perhaps holiday, go walking or something an on a break, get wet and its nice to relax in a bath.
HTH
www.plusnine.co.uk
|
|
|
loggyboy
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 02:44 PM |
|
|
We have 2 young children in a 2 bed so a bath is essential for younger ones. When we redid bathroom we found a nice wide bath, effectively a shower
bath. Its a normal length (1700) bath and is 700 wide at one end (along wall with toilet and basin) with a kink along length out to 800w. It has a
nice flat bottom with tight radius at bottom maximising standing space. It also has a lip along the edge so a shower screen can sit nicely against it
and guides water back into bath
Mistral Motorsport
|
|
|
swanny
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 03:13 PM |
|
|
in no way meaning to be rude, but.....
if the houses are for three girls its worth bearing in mind that although average age for first baby born has risen in recent years 25% are still born
to under 25s i think. if the family want to provide long term assistance to the girls (which is a bl**dy brilliant idea by the way) a house with a
bath seems like a good idea.
|
|
|
nick205
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 03:25 PM |
|
|
To my line of thought a bath is a waste of space, fit a shower and move on.
|
|
|
SteveWallace
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 03:30 PM |
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
The 3 houses are for my two very young daughters and my sisters daughter for once they have grown up enough to be kicked out but in the meantime will
be rented to pay off the mortgages. My folks have kindly given the kids the land and I’m building these houses now my own house has been paid off.
Probably telling you what you already know, but IIRC tax law on rental property is about to change to mean that you cannot count your mortgage
interest as a before tax expense. I.e. you will end up paying income tax on the rental income before you use the cash to pay mortgage interest.
For some people who already have rental properties, this means that they will be running at a loss or have to increase the rent. And this from a
government that claims that they want to make rental property more affordable for tenants.
|
|
|
ravingfool
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 04:14 PM |
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by SteveWallace
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
The 3 houses are for my two very young daughters and my sisters daughter for once they have grown up enough to be kicked out but in the meantime will
be rented to pay off the mortgages. My folks have kindly given the kids the land and I’m building these houses now my own house has been paid off.
Probably telling you what you already know, but IIRC tax law on rental property is about to change to mean that you cannot count your mortgage
interest as a before tax expense. I.e. you will end up paying income tax on the rental income before you use the cash to pay mortgage interest.
For some people who already have rental properties, this means that they will be running at a loss or have to increase the rent. And this from a
government that claims that they want to make rental property more affordable for tenants.
I'm pretty sure that is exactly the idea with this, but you have to add in the other steps.
1. make houses less attractive as an investment purchase,
2. less people will take out a mortgage to fund BTL (and some will sell investments),
3. heat taken out of the market in terms of price of property to buy,
4. more renters will be able to climb onto the slippery ladder,
5. rental demand reduces,
6. rental prices reduce.
If you have the cash there will still be nothing stopping you from buying a property to rent out, you just won't have such an easy time
leveraging additional debt to finance BTLs or it won't be financially viable at all.
Reducing demand in the housing market and rental market has got to be a good thing otherwise those without homes will never be able to buy. I agree
with the principle and I think it's completely stupid that you were ever allowed to deduct your debt costs before calculating income. On the
other hand this comes at a bad time for me because otherwise I would have been looking to join the club in the future.
I don't think anyone can really be too unhappy about this if you think about the health of the housing market for the future. The previous
system was just enforcing inequality between the haves and have-nots. For anyone whose rental properties will become unprofitable as business
interests then it's hardly the end of the world, surely you should be happy to sell, presumably make a capital gain at that point, and then
reinvest elsewhere. Value and return on investments is never guaranteed but successive governments have been making very strange decisions related to
housing stock in this country.
Going back to the OP, long term I would have thought the most practical solution is a simple bath and shower combo unless it's for a second
bathroom in which case a single shower is fine.
[Edited on 15/10/15 by ravingfool]
|
|
|
Simon
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 05:27 PM |
|
|
Couple of packs of wet wipes should do.
ATB
Simon
|
|
|
David Jenkins
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 06:06 PM |
|
|
Or a quick rub-down with a damp woman...
|
|
|
macc man
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 06:22 PM |
|
|
As I install bathrooms for a living, I can speak from experience and I spend most of my time removing baths to install showers.
Most folk do not worry about the resale issues and opt for the convenience of a shower. I recently refitted my bathroom and although I installed a
freestanding bath,it is unlikely to ever get used as we both prefer the shower. Go with your instincts and do not worry about what the herd thinks.
|
|
|
Irony
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 06:35 PM |
|
|
I have a rental property and I have just had a meeting with my accountant. The new tax law on rental property depends on your wages. A workmate of
mine earns a lot more than I do and he is going to have to pay double the tax on his rental property as I do.
You need to seek professional advice about this. If I get a payrise I might transfer 99% of the property to my low earning partner.
A house without a bath is next to useless for people with very young children.
|
|
|
Staple balls
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 06:45 PM |
|
|
Proper wet room > Good size shower > showerbath > bath.
Ultimately, the bath option is probably best for young kids, but everyone else, a decent shower that'll rip 3 layers of skin off is the way
forward.
|
|
|
SteveWalker
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 09:11 PM |
|
|
We've just removed a bath with a shower over it and replaced it with a shower cubicle. We did this because the bathroom is small and it made for
a better layout. I do miss being able to relax in a hot bath once in a while though and the kids can't use bath toys any more. If you did go for
a bath with shower, a good quality, glass screen makes a huge difference over horrible, sticky, leaky curtains.
|
|
|
talkingcars
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 09:19 PM |
|
|
Definatly fit a bath, great for relaxing or pampering, and a shower for a quick wash.
My wife loves to lie in a hot bath for hours with a good book and a long drink.
My 21 year old daughter will pamper herself in the bath and then shower to wash her hair.
I have a form of artheritus so enjoy a soak when the bones are weiry.
For speed in the mornings we all dive in the shower, if we had the space we would have a cubicle and a shower but we don't so we have a folding
screen over the bath.
I bet if you ask most women at least 50% would like the options.
|
|
|
SteveWalker
|
| posted on 15/10/15 at 11:07 PM |
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by talkingcars
For speed in the mornings we all dive in the shower
It must be pretty crowded in there!
|
|
|
