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2" Tube Swage
907 - 24/12/08 at 10:43 AM

Hi All,

I have a little homework job on at the moment that involves exhaust pipe joints.

They are a pipe inserted into another pipe with lugs welded onto each piece and held together with springs.


I turned a former on the lathe and planned on using my 6 tonne bottle jack to force it into the end. Failed.

So I borrowed a 10 tonne bottle jack. Wooo Hoo. Piece of cake.


I'm sure Father Christmas reads Locostbuilders so I'd just like to point him in the direction of Screwfix who do a nice 12 tonne jobbie.
(always pays to have a bit in hand)


I live in hope.

Cheers, and Happy Christmas to you all.
Paul G Rescued attachment swaged-tube-s.jpg
Rescued attachment swaged-tube-s.jpg


Mr Whippy - 24/12/08 at 11:00 AM

I just weld on the end of a skip retrieved piece


rotax78 - 24/12/08 at 12:24 PM

what did you use to jack against, obviously something that would take more than 10 tonne to move, but what?


Volvorsport - 24/12/08 at 12:45 PM

thats exactly how we do it .

just need to put some slots in it to make a perfect ID/OD joint

use some tallow aswell


907 - 24/12/08 at 01:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by rotax78
what did you use to jack against, obviously something that would take more than 10 tonne to move, but what?




Many many years ago I made a pipe bender to do w/bones.

Since then it's pressed bearings, in and out, bent brackets, (vee block) and pressed many a can end, and more.

A versatile tool.


I used copperslip for a lubricant as I had some handy.


Cheers
Paul G Rescued attachment pipe-bender.jpg
Rescued attachment pipe-bender.jpg


Volvorsport - 24/12/08 at 01:24 PM

the only problem is you get a lip on the end .

either cut and roll , or use a pipe expander . its great for swaging upto a size tho .

nice and simple tool i see - just need a foot operated pedal and about 50 more tons and youve cracked it !


John Bonnett - 24/12/08 at 02:28 PM

Paul, you are an artist in metal. How did you get the die out of the tube once it had been formed?

atb

John


907 - 24/12/08 at 03:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Volvorsport
the only problem is you get a lip on the end .

either cut and roll , or use a pipe expander . its great for swaging upto a size tho .

nice and simple tool i see - just need a foot operated pedal and about 50 more tons and youve cracked it !




Hi VS

Your right about the lip. That was the last thing I was expecting.

Mk1 former was 51 o/d. A bit sloppy.

Mk2 is a wee bit smaller so the edge of the pipe is a dead 50.8mm (2"
I then case hardened it hence the former is blue.

Where these are going it doesn't have to be a perfect fit.
With a 300mph wind passing them you won't detect a bit of blow.


To answer your point John the former fell out of the pipe at about the same speed as my bottom jaw dropped.
As for the artist bit... I will be by about 10 o'clock tonight.

Cheers
Paul G


thunderace - 24/12/08 at 04:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by 907
quote:
Originally posted by rotax78
what did you use to jack against, obviously something that would take more than 10 tonne to move, but what?


looks great



Many many years ago I made a pipe bender to do w/bones.

Since then it's pressed bearings, in and out, bent brackets, (vee block) and pressed many a can end, and more.

A versatile tool.


I used copperslip for a lubricant as I had some handy.


Cheers
Paul G