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Angle grinder stand

w.olly - 13/4/12 at 09:29 AM

Now i am not being lazy here before some body says so

I am in the process of getting the materials for my chassis so i need to decide how i want to cut it, i was going to get a cut of saw, to expensvie for me and even a Ł200 saws are not all that accurate , a hack saw is a long way around to get it done and hard work ( the lazy bit LOL ) now i have been looking at angle grinder stands, i have seen them from Ł15 upto Ł50, i know you get what you pay for but can i have a bit of feed back on these gadgets, look neat, i usualy do all my angle grinder cutting by hand but i hope these are more accurate.

Wolly

just one i found that doesnt seem bad
MANNESMANN SEPARATION STAND 240mm x 240mm FOR SMALL ANGLE GRINDER METAL/STONE | eBay

[Edited on 13/4/12 by w.olly]

Daddylonglegs - 13/4/12 at 09:40 AM

I used one of those but only for 90deg cuts. I used a spare angle grinder I had so I could leave it setup. Just make sure that it's checked for true 90deg on a scrap piece first.

It certainly helped me speed up the cutting process

BTW, I always used 1mm cutting discs, they don't last too long but they are not too bad if you buy them in bulk packs. I got mine from Machine Mart and my local BOC gas supplier.

HTH

JB

jossey - 13/4/12 at 09:45 AM

ive seen the larger one. as the discs for the 230 grinder is cheaper than the grinder i have. dont you have a 230 grinder which you could use with the larger version of the holder.

w.olly - 13/4/12 at 10:04 AM

So just as accurate, or inaccurate as a cut off saw, not a bad thing then as all cuts will be squared up etc then, i get my gear from machine mart as they do good disc for the price, not checked on the laser discs yet but i have seen some places do them for around Ł15 for 25, enough to do the whole chassis i believe.

Just a thought though, how many cuts will you actualy get from a disc, as it wheres it will give smaller cuts, the laser discs can wear out quick so are the grinders set to get most from the disc? Just a thought, or am i thinking to much into this......sorry my mind works over time at times, i am off to sort a bit more of the workshop ready, getting excited now

Daddylonglegs - 13/4/12 at 10:39 AM

I found that as long as I wasn't to heavy-handed on the cutting, the discs lasted fairly well (can't really remember how many cuts of 25mm box per disc as it was many moons ago!)

Just let the disc do the work rather than trying to 'force' it through the steel. Just a thought, maybe a little cutting oil would give them a little longer life? Not tried it myself, but I guess it could get messy

chris-g - 13/4/12 at 10:48 AM

If you are not too far from a Lidl you could go for one of these.

http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/lidl_uk/hs.xsl/index_29973.htm

phil m - 13/4/12 at 10:56 AM

This is the stand I used - cost about Ł25 (7/8 years ago) Bit of a fiddle to set up but very accurate when it was up and running. I would use it again as it was cheap and I already had a big angle grinder, but I have always wanted a ddedicated machine for this type of work

loggyboy - 13/4/12 at 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by chris-g
If you are not too far from a Lidl you could go for one of these.

http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/lidl_uk/hs.xsl/index_29973.htm

I have one of these, works quite well. Defo bargain buy.

Stott - 13/4/12 at 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by Daddylonglegs
I found that as long as I wasn't to heavy-handed on the cutting, the discs lasted fairly well (can't really remember how many cuts of 25mm box per disc as it was many moons ago!)

Just let the disc do the work rather than trying to 'force' it through the steel. Just a thought, maybe a little cutting oil would give them a little longer life? Not tried it myself, but I guess it could get messy

No no no no no

Keep your discs and abrasive wheels dry, localised absorption in the disc/wheel will cause imbalance leading to breakup and a bit of cut off wheel stuck in your forehead

Atb
Stott

[Edited on 13/4/12 by Stott]

chris-g - 13/4/12 at 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by loggyboy

quote:
Originally posted by chris-g
If you are not too far from a Lidl you could go for one of these.

http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/lidl_uk/hs.xsl/index_29973.htm

I have one of these, works quite well. Defo bargain buy.

Me too. My only complaint is the clamp doesn't hold short items very well. I also bought a cheap angle grinder and keep it permanently fixed to the stand.

loggyboy - 13/4/12 at 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by chris-g
Me too. My only complaint is the clamp doesn't hold short items very well. I also bought a cheap angle grinder and keep it permanently fixed to the stand.

I secured mine to my work bench adjacent to my vice so use that to secure most items rather than the lil clamp provided.

John P - 13/4/12 at 11:30 AM

When I built my McSorley chassis I had access to various band and cut-off saws where I worked but to set them up accurately for compound angles took so long I ended up marking them out and cutting with a hack saw.

It actually doesn't take that long and is probably less prone to errors (when trying to do it at work on a cut-off saw I managed to get the angles going the wrong way on more than one occasion, mainly because when setting the saw up for the compound angle the head only moved one side of vertical).

Not sure if that helps,

John.

Daddylonglegs - 13/4/12 at 11:58 AM

Ooops! OK Stott, thanks for that! Never even entered my head about breakdown of the material

Mine is the same as phil m's. Like he said, once set up it works a treat.

Dingz - 13/4/12 at 01:09 PM

That Mannesman one looks like the machine mart one they are about Ł20 we use one at work, having added a bit of reinforcement under the base plate to stiffen it up it seems fine.

FASTdan - 13/4/12 at 01:47 PM

Im surprised at the number of people using machine mart discs. In my experience and back to back cutting with other brands they are absolutely terrible. As in they only manage about 25% of the cutting a decent brand cutting disc will do. And in the process make an awful dusty mess as they disintegrate.

Maybe I had a bad batch....

MikeRJ - 13/4/12 at 02:48 PM

I had an angle grinder stand from Screwfix. which was badly made with loads of slop in the pivot and the clamp didn't work very well. By the time I got it set up I could have made a load of cuts with a hacksaw without the noise or the abrasive dust, so it ended up in the bin.

With a bit of practice (and making a chassis gives you a lot of practice!) you can accurately cut 25mm RHS very quickly. With decent hacksaw blades it really doesn't take much effort, and you'll have to use this method for the compound angle cuts anyway.

[Edited on 13/4/12 by MikeRJ]

scrappy_7 - 13/4/12 at 06:21 PM

Hi there
I adapted a cheap wood lop saw by putting a metal cutting blade in it . Worked really well cut all the chassis with it compound angles as well . Well worth a try

Stott - 15/4/12 at 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by Daddylonglegs
Ooops! OK Stott, thanks for that! Never even entered my head about breakdown of the material

Mine is the same as phil m's. Like he said, once set up it works a treat.

Don't stress wasn't bein funny or owt, just that it's not a good idea to get them wet or damp at all as they go 12KRPM + so they don't respond well to imbalance.

It seems logical though using cutting fluid even if it isn't

ATB
Stott

Peteff - 17/4/12 at 08:39 AM

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Originally posted by FASTdan
Im surprised at the number of people using machine mart discs. In my experience and back to back cutting with other brands they are absolutely terrible. As in they only manage about 25% of the cutting a decent brand cutting disc will do. And in the process make an awful dusty mess as they disintegrate.

Maybe I had a bad batch....

I must have had some from the same batch. 14" chop saw blades which are still in the shed now as they are too scary to use. I have had discs from other suppliers which were a bit out of balance but levelled out after initial use but one of these was still shaking the machine when nearly worn out and it was only still in there as it was all I had. Some Screwfix discs were good but I'm going to try an order from Smith and Arrow next time I need any, they get good reviews.