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Miller Migmatic 171
Sten - 16/10/05 at 11:07 AM

I have recently bought this welder. It is supposed to have 2 different welding options. One is MIG and I don't know the other one's name in English. Maybe Flux Cored? Now I would like to know, how to use the second welding option(Flux Cored). I have tried today, but it doesn't work.
And here's a link about migmatic 171 http://www.itw-welding.co.uk/uploads/pdf/Migmatic%20171%20UK%20address%20March%202003.pdf

Btw, I'm not building a sports car, but I thought maybe You can help me?


JoelP - 16/10/05 at 11:23 AM

by flux core, im guessing you mean gasless welding? This would basically be mig welding without the gas. It has a bad reputation to be honest, most who have tried it were not impressed, though some have reported acceptable results. My personal opinion would be not to bother with it


Peteff - 16/10/05 at 11:32 AM

You need to swap the earth cable to the other polarity usually Sten. Is there a switch or another socket for the earth lead to plug into?

[Edited on 16/10/05 by Peteff]


theconrodkid - 16/10/05 at 03:56 PM

agree with joel,gasless is about as usefull as a chocolate teapot(as we angols say),stay with gas


Sten - 16/10/05 at 04:56 PM

Flux Core doesn't need any gas, that's true. But as I understand, gasless welding should be able to weld thicker metals.

When i tried gasless welding today, i putted the ground wire (earth?) in one socket and the electrode stick wire in the other socket. I left the polarity switching wire free.

One problem could be, that the electric outlet didn't have 2 fases ( ? ). So I'll try to build a matching electric outlet and I'll try again then.

Thank you for your fast responses and think, what could be wrong?


theconrodkid - 16/10/05 at 05:17 PM

by looking at the picture i think the earth and live are interchangable,try earth lead in + and other to torch.the fly lead looks like it plugs into the torch


Peteff - 16/10/05 at 06:57 PM

Take the wire out of the + socket on the welder and put it in the - , that's all you need to do. Make sure you have the correct tip and a knurled drive roller and you may need more wire speed than with gas, mine seemed to when I tried it. It's not a Miller but it works the same. The torch is a standard euro fitting same as yours.