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rivnuts?
robertst - 28/3/06 at 11:57 AM

sorry if this is repetitive in any way...

but just what the hell is a rivnut and how does it work? is "rivnut" its real name or is it just diy jargon?
i can deduce by the name that they are rivets which have nuts to bolt them down? are rivnuts removable and reusable? where should i use a rivnut instead of a rivet?

thanks!


Hellfire - 28/3/06 at 12:03 PM

A rivnut is basically a captive thread which is secured in much the same way as a rivet. You drill a hole, insert the rivnut and use a rivnut tool to compress it which holds it in place. Like they say, a picture paints a thousand words so I'll go and look for one............


ned - 28/3/06 at 12:04 PM



and look at:
http://www.zygology.com/images/others/7486.pdf

[Edited on 28/3/06 by ned]


smart51 - 28/3/06 at 12:06 PM

A rivnut is a sort of cross between a rivet and a nut. I guess there is a trade name for them but I don't care what.

Rivnuts are sort of top hat shaped. The cylinder bit goes in a hole that you have drilled and the flanged rim stops it falling all the way through. The other end of the cylinder from the flange is threaded. A special tool screws into these threads and pulls them toward the flanged rim. the metal buckes and clamps the part with the hole like a rivet. You then unscrew the tool and you have a threaded crimped insert that you can bolt things to. It is in effect a nut that you can rivet to a thin sheet - a rivnut.

They sometimes come a bit loose making it difficult to unscrew the bolt but a bit of glue can solve this.


Hellfire - 28/3/06 at 12:07 PM

Have a look on 20th November. Shows you how they work.

Rivnuts


ned - 28/3/06 at 12:08 PM

see here for an animation:
http: //www.zygology.com/products/how_work.asp?working_diagram_link=http://www.avdel.textron.com/products/images/39006.swf&submit=Search

and yet more info:
http://www.zygology.com/products/tier3.asp?search_ID=Steel%20Nutserts

[Edited on 28/3/06 by ned]


piddy - 28/3/06 at 01:06 PM

Engineers where I work call them Clinch nuts.


robertst - 28/3/06 at 01:22 PM

so for example, if i were to want to bolt the nose cone to the chassis, i cant use a normal bolt, but a rivnut will be better? so just drilling a hole in the chassis and screwing in a bolt will not do the job?

thanks for the info!


robertst - 28/3/06 at 01:28 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ned
see here for an animation:
http: //www.zygology.com/products/how_work.asp?working_diagram_link=http://www.avdel.textron.com/products/images/39006.swf&submit=Search

and yet more info:
http://www.zygology.com/products/tier3.asp?search_ID=Steel%20Nutserts

[Edited on 28/3/06 by ned]


OHHHH how cool are rivnuts??? now i get it! the animation answered my previous question... a picture might paint a thousand words but an animation paints a billion! wow, im gonna use them like mad!



i guess the real name for them is nutserts?


ned - 28/3/06 at 01:32 PM

yup, nutserts is another alias, whichever way you look at it i suppose..

Ned.


piddy - 28/3/06 at 02:53 PM

quote:

so just drilling a hole in the chassis and screwing in a bolt will not do the job?



Sometimes the metal you want to attach to isn't thick enough to drill and tap. This is where the rivnut come in really useful.


DIY Si - 28/3/06 at 03:54 PM

Personally, I'd use dezeus fasteners to attach a nose cone. Nice flush fitting things. Doing it with a bolt could mean you need loads of extra ugly bolt covers where you least want them.


Hellfire - 28/3/06 at 04:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by piddy
Engineers where I work call them Clinch nuts.


Sounds like a nasty torture method..