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welding gas. is there a locost way??
Jason Fletcher - 9/3/08 at 09:57 PM

I am having a nightmare getting welding gas. I want to get a big bottle of argonshield or equivalent for tig and can't without opening up a account with BOC or dealing with that other company who's delivery of there smaller bottles is as dear as the gas. I have gone through too many of the disposable ones and its getting expensive! There must be a locost way?


rayward - 9/3/08 at 10:03 PM

Co2 fire extinguisher and regulator from machine mart


Ray


Omni - 9/3/08 at 10:03 PM

Where do you live? If you live in Kent your luck is in

Adams Gas

9.4L of 20% Argon mix only cost me £23 ish

HTH.

O


MikeRJ - 9/3/08 at 10:07 PM

The OP wants the gas for TIG, so CO2 and Argon/CO2 mixes aren't overly useful. The Adams Gas people look like they can supply pure Argon from sometime this month though.


Omni - 9/3/08 at 10:09 PM

Sorry didn't read the TIG bit

lol.

O


Mansfield - 9/3/08 at 10:17 PM

There are bargains to be had, depends on your location. Wirral, Kent and Notts are the bargain places I know about, where are you?


Jason Fletcher - 10/3/08 at 08:46 AM

Thanks for the replies.

I live in Kenilworth which is near Coventry and I work in Banbury so somewhere near either area would be good.

I did think Argonshield was what I wanted for tig and it means I could also use it with the mig too. Is this not the case?

Jason


Mr Whippy - 10/3/08 at 10:20 AM

I keep getting overdue bills from BOC which is driving me nutts, 5 letters in about as many months. They keep asking for the same amount which is the yearly fee and when I phoned up to complain the woman on the phone said 'yeah our system tends to do that...' WTF

worst thing is I'm direct debit so should not even get one bill, I keep checking to see if they have taken more out than they should (they haven't) but I could not knowingly call them up and pay over the phone. I wonder if this is a scam to con big companys who have a lot of stuff on hire???


02GF74 - 10/3/08 at 10:45 AM

the locost way it to run up and down the stairs holding your breathe then breathe out through a tube.


Jason Fletcher - 10/3/08 at 10:49 AM

02GF74


I don't need to run up and down the stairs to get out of breath, your Avtar does it for mejason


Schrodinger - 10/3/08 at 11:40 AM

There must be something wrong with you then if you exhale Argon


MikeR - 10/3/08 at 01:10 PM

Try Nuneaton Welding Supplies.

They do CO2 themselves and will set up an account with AirProducts for other stuff. I found them ok when i was getting gas off them. Currently i get the gas direct from them and pay 34 quid for the bottle and 15 quid to refill it with Co2. No standing charge etc If you get argon you'll prob have to use AirProducts and pay a quarterly rental.

They're also open Saturday morning (well used to be) - but if no one is around, get a bacon butty, they'll be up the road in the cylinder store. Give them 20 mins.


garyo - 10/3/08 at 01:45 PM

Anyone know of a MIG gas supplier around Reading/Berkshire?


Mix - 10/3/08 at 05:30 PM

If you can 'acquire' a bottle unscrupulous account holders have been know to decant the contents from one bottle to another.


Jason Fletcher - 10/3/08 at 09:23 PM

Mix

now we are talking!!! I have a pub CO2 bottle and I have a mate in the pub game who can make me a double ended hose and another mate who has a BOC account.

cheers
Jason


MikeRJ - 16/3/08 at 12:11 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Mix
If you can 'acquire' a bottle unscrupulous account holders have been know to decant the contents from one bottle to another.


Half a bottle anyway


paulf - 16/3/08 at 06:01 PM

This would not be a good idea , a C02 bottle is only under about 800 to 1000psi , argon bottles are more like 3000psi .You need to get an argon or similiar pressure rated bottle and a hydraulic rated hose.
Some one at work tried to do something similiar using compressed air hose and wondered why it burst and nearly deafened them .
Paul.

quote:
Originally posted by Jason Fletcher
Mix

now we are talking!!! I have a pub CO2 bottle and I have a mate in the pub game who can make me a double ended hose and another mate who has a BOC account.

cheers
Jason


Jason Fletcher - 16/3/08 at 08:31 PM

Paul,

yes I found that out but luckily before it was too late!

thanks
Jason

[Edited on 16/3/08 by Jason Fletcher]


MakeEverything - 16/8/08 at 03:10 PM

quote:
Originally posted by paulf
This would not be a good idea , a C02 bottle is only under about 800 to 1000psi , argon bottles are more like 3000psi .You need to get an argon or similiar pressure rated bottle and a hydraulic rated hose.
Some one at work tried to do something similiar using compressed air hose and wondered why it burst and nearly deafened them .
Paul.
quote:
Originally posted by Jason Fletcher
Mix

now we are talking!!! I have a pub CO2 bottle and I have a mate in the pub game who can make me a double ended hose and another mate who has a BOC account.

cheers
Jason



Generally, nitrogen cylinders are high pressure. Dont forget, if you have an accident in a work place transferring gasses, youll hav statutory instruments and regulations thrown at you in court such as the Pressure Systems Safety Regs, HASWA, COSHH to name but a few. Dont have an accident, and Dont get caught!!! - Or of course, Dont do it unless you know what you are doing! The HSE are realy tough on stuff like this.

Just so as you know, anything over 250 Bar/L is classed as a pressure system - whatever the contents. (thats the volume x pressure).