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Mr Whippy

posted on 6/4/09 at 01:11 PM Reply With Quote
OT building a wet room

Anyone ever built one?

I have an upstairs bathroom we were thinking of turning into a wet room. To do this I was considering sheathing the whole floor and about a foot of the lower wall in 5mm of GRP then tiling over that, especially if I stippled the surface before the resin cured to give the tiling grout a good key. To me that would be the best and easiest way to guarantee it would never leak and I could easily mould in a drain for the shower. The floor is large chipboard panels rather than floorboards and the walls are plasterboard.

Any suggestion or tips?

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blakep82

posted on 6/4/09 at 01:14 PM Reply With Quote
they normally do it with some sort of a vinyl floor don't they? its not vinyl, i can't remember exactly what it is, but some sort of pastic





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Mr Whippy

posted on 6/4/09 at 01:21 PM Reply With Quote
I've seen the stuff and it looks like some sort of tanking as used on basements

I like the idea of using GRP as it's easy to apply, cheap and can't ever leak





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blakep82

posted on 6/4/09 at 01:23 PM Reply With Quote
can't leak, unless it cracks... as long as your floor's solid it should be fine i'd think, although i've never built one!





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spdpug98

posted on 6/4/09 at 01:29 PM Reply With Quote
I would recomend changing the flooring to a marine ply, then laying either an Altro Marine or Polyfloor Suprtech vinyl with coved skirtings.

Ensure floor is laid by an approved installer and you will get a manufuacture approved warraty against leakage - drawn and specified hundreds of these in the old days





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Mr Whippy

posted on 6/4/09 at 01:42 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by spdpug98
I would recomend changing the flooring to a marine ply, then laying either an Altro Marine or Polyfloor Suprtech vinyl with coved skirtings.

Ensure floor is laid by an approved installer and you will get a manufuacture approved warraty against leakage - drawn and specified hundreds of these in the old days


hmm mayby if I hadn't nailed the floor down and built the room. I'm going to do all the work myself you see as I've already built the rest of the house. Looked at the price of those tanking materials, you'd think they were for covering the spaceshuttle at the price they're asking

If I used GRP over the floor then should it matter what the floors made of underneath? as its then just a room sized plastic shower cabinet


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hughpinder

posted on 6/4/09 at 02:01 PM Reply With Quote
If you sheet out the whole floor, how do you access the waste trap, or other underfloor plumbing fittings?

I don't think the sub floor material will matter at all if you are laying 5mm of fibreglass - it will have enough structural strength to avoid cracking anyway.
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A1

posted on 6/4/09 at 02:36 PM Reply With Quote
we got one recently, they use a kinda resin stuff first then tile on that...
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iank

posted on 6/4/09 at 02:38 PM Reply With Quote
AFAIK Fibreglass isn't waterproof, it's the gelcoat that does that trick. I know old fibreglass boats can have horrible de-lamination problems due to water having got into the structure.





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spdpug98

posted on 6/4/09 at 02:57 PM Reply With Quote
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If you sheet out the whole floor, how do you access the waste trap, or other underfloor plumbing fittings?



Level floor drains have a removable top which allows you to remove the inner trap, that doesn't help with the rest of the subfloor pipework though





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iiyama

posted on 6/4/09 at 03:20 PM Reply With Quote
I do it for a living, (bathroom, shower and wetroom installations).

Like anything else, do it on the cheap and youll cost yourself a fortune in the longrun. There is only one way to do it and thats the right way and fibreglass aint it!





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zilspeed

posted on 6/4/09 at 04:26 PM Reply With Quote
As mentioned above

Altro marine / Polysafe or similar forms the floor finish with a cove former to bring it up the wall to meet with the tiling.

A Harmer floor drain takes care of the waste.

You can also buy a GRP shower tray which is 19mm or 22mm thick around its perimeter. This replaces the floorboards and has a falll to the centre. The harmer drain goes into this and the altro marine goes on top.

This is all on the basis that you have a nice deep joist running in the right direction to allow the waste to get away.
Otherwise you're into pumps and all that nonsense.

(Yes, I'm involved in this line of work too.)






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