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chrisg

posted on 22/4/09 at 02:39 PM Reply With Quote
Tapping M10 hole

I need to fix my engine in place, it has M10 x 1.25 fine threads into an aluminium crankcase, but I don't have the correct bolts.

Would it be ok to tap these out to standard pitch M10?

Cheers

Chris





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Humbug

posted on 22/4/09 at 02:46 PM Reply With Quote
I would have thought it would strip or cross the threads, making it less effective.
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tegwin

posted on 22/4/09 at 02:56 PM Reply With Quote
NO... dont do that! Course threads in aluminium dont work at the best of times hence why most are fine....

Trying to switch between fine and course would just FUBAR the hole!





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chrisg

posted on 22/4/09 at 03:00 PM Reply With Quote
Message received and understood!

Thanks chaps

Chris





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mad-butcher

posted on 22/4/09 at 03:06 PM Reply With Quote
try these chris http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/WVS-FASTENERS_METRIC-FINE_W0QQ_fsubZ13QQ_sidZ124709800QQ_trksidZp4634Q2ec0Q2em322
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chrisg

posted on 22/4/09 at 03:18 PM Reply With Quote
Cheers Tony





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02GF74

posted on 22/4/09 at 03:26 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tegwin
NO... dont do that! Course threads in aluminium dont work at the best of times hence why most are fine....




you sure about that? I thought aluminium and cast iron both use course threads?

e.g. on ford crossflow, head and alloy inlet manifold use UNC.

.... but then I don't know for sure, it is google time I guess....






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AdamR

posted on 22/4/09 at 04:10 PM Reply With Quote
Agreed. Everything on a Rover V8 (aluminium block) is UNC.
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mad-butcher

posted on 22/4/09 at 04:25 PM Reply With Quote
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minitici

posted on 22/4/09 at 04:38 PM Reply With Quote
You could always fit helicoil or re-coil wire inserts and convert to 'standard' metric pitch.
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Jimbob

posted on 22/4/09 at 05:03 PM Reply With Quote
Just buy the correct bolts!
They wont be expensive and its the right way to do it

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chrisg

posted on 22/4/09 at 05:29 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jimbob
Just buy the correct bolts!
They wont be expensive and its the right way to do it


BUY!!!!

I nearly choked on me whippet!

Are you a REAL Yorkshireman or a foreigner?

(Actually that's what I've done, via Tony's link It was just an idea to save some time)

Cheers

Chris





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David Jenkins

posted on 22/4/09 at 05:45 PM Reply With Quote
Soft metal should have coarse threads - stuff like aluminium is too weak to support fine threads in the way steel can.

It depends on your definition of 'fine' of course!






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chrisg

posted on 22/4/09 at 06:58 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
Soft metal should have coarse threads - stuff like aluminium is too weak to support fine threads in the way steel can.

It depends on your definition of 'fine' of course!


That being the case, I wonder why Honda went for fine threads?

Cheers

Chris





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richmars

posted on 22/4/09 at 07:05 PM Reply With Quote
It's no the finest M10, you can also get M10x1.0
So maybe x1.25 is a good comprimise.

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David Jenkins

posted on 22/4/09 at 07:17 PM Reply With Quote
I have taps and dies in my toolbox for 1/2" x 40tpi - that's fine!

(It's a model engineering thread, easy to set up for thread-cutting in an imperial lathe)






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