coozer
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| posted on 26/11/06 at 10:04 PM |
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Porting/grinding Tool?
Anyone any opinions on the best kit for porting and grinding jobs? Dremel ok or better off with an air grinder??
I want to use it to tidy up and smooth off the steel inlet manifold I've made and maybe use it to trim fibreglass??
Steve
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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flak monkey
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| posted on 26/11/06 at 10:07 PM |
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A powerful dremel type tool is adequate. I used one with a flexi shaft to trim all of my bodywork holes and edges with. They also make light work of
cleaning up steel welds and edges when fitted with emery drums.
The one I use is a 140W 240volt type, so has a good bit of power.
An air die grinder is good for heavy duty metal removal, not really suitable for GRP.
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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mark chandler
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| posted on 26/11/06 at 11:42 PM |
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Air is the way to go if you are shifting loads of material as they spin so fast, but they do require a large CFM to work.
Although only costing £25 new you may new compressor to run it.
Regards Mark
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02GF74
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 10:30 AM |
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I used a dreml with a metal cutter to open out ports on a pair of v8 heads - being alloy it is doable but I dread to think how longit would have taken
on cast iron heads. The dreml got so hot I could no longer hold it iun my hand so ther was a fair bit of time waiting for it too cool down.
I haven;t found the stones to be particulalry effective or durable.
What I have done in the past is to use a metal file (MGB head) and if you can get that in , then use that, you be able to remove more metal in a
shorted time.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 10:57 AM |
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Hmmmm, depends on what you are trying to do!
A die grinder is great for many jobs, but air ones EAT air and get freezing cold.
I have a makita variable speed electric die grinder, which is FAR better than the air ones and also runs anywhere from 7,000 to 27,000 rpm.
It will knock the socks off anything else when it comes to porting, and is great for grp work too with appropriate sanding drums. I used it to cut out
the exhaust and filter holes in my grp bonnet, with no problem at all.
For fine detail work around valve seats on porting jobs a dremel can be useful, but even there it is very slow (comparison-wise, the electric die
grinder can remove a desertspoonful of cast iron from a port in the time that a 250 watt dremel takes to remove a large matchhead's worth)
I have a Bosch 50,000rpm air tool for fine work, but never really use it.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 11:01 AM |
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PS, reading some of the above posts, I think maybe a trip to see somebody actually porting a head rather than just tickling it could be needed.
Sometimes a LOT of material needs to be taken out, usually if removing valve guide bosses. On a Ford Pinto or Opel CIH these can be completely
removed in a minute or so each with a decent electric die grinder...........................
wouldn't want to try it with a dremel!!!!
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NS Dev
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 11:03 AM |
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PS PS!
The electric die grinder with coarse sanding rings on expanding mandrels is great for shaping chassis tube ends when doind round tubing fits as well!
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Browser
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 01:12 PM |
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A lad on the Practical Performance Car forum was looking for exactly the same thing, I pointed him the way of this:
Here's the spec:
• Intended for the serious carver, modeller or pattern maker
• 190W continuously rated motor
• Variable speed (0-20,000rpm) controlled by foot pedal
• 970mm long flexible shaft
• Five optional handpieces
• Wall mounted hanger
THe drive's £64.92, a handpiece that will take 2.4, 3.2 & 6.4mm collets is £17.63 and if you wanted a bench mounted wall hanger it's
£13.63.
You'll find more details http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-Axminster-Heavy-Duty-Flexible-Drive-Unit-20091.htm
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 01:19 PM |
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i have a 2 hr long video tape of dave andrews of DVAPower
explaining how to port a k-series cylinder head, very interesting, he uses a makita electric die-grinder with special large fluted burrs for
aluminium.
very interesting
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NS Dev
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 03:02 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by liam.mccaffrey
i have a 2 hr long video tape of dave andrews of DVAPower
explaining how to port a k-series cylinder head, very interesting, he uses a makita electric die-grinder with special large fluted burrs for
aluminium.
very interesting
strange choice of tool there........
that hang up grinder from axminster is exactly the one I tried for detail work............. good for REALLY fine stuff but not capable of removing any
amount of metal.
The Makita (or other make but Makita seem to be the best balance of quality and spons) die grinder is the tool for the job.
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coozer
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 06:00 PM |
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Will this be OK?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/130-watt-die-grinder-and-flexishaft-in-hard-carry-case_W0QQitemZ130052140431QQihZ003QQcategoryZ22664QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmd
ZViewItem
Cheap enough to buy use a couple of times and throw away???
All i want to do is tidy up a steel inlet manifold I've made and shape a few holes in the fibreglass side panels.
Steve
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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Peteff
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 06:13 PM |
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I got one of those from Aldi for £12.99. It's a step up from a 12v dremel type but it's not got a lot of torque. It will grind welds down
if that's what you are doing to the manifold. I use some coarser stones I had in the toolbox which fit one of the larger collets and take my
time as I only have a half share in it (my wife uses it for miniatures) The flexy shaft is a real boon, worth the money for that.
[Edited on 27/11/06 by Peteff]
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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