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speedyxjs

posted on 22/1/07 at 04:49 PM Reply With Quote
No-Gas Mig Welders

Hi
I will be finally starting my build in a few weeks after a year of hassling my dad to clear the garage. I was looking at mig welders and i saw a 'No-Gas Mig Welder' is this better or worse than gas mig welders or is there no difference?





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flak monkey

posted on 22/1/07 at 04:54 PM Reply With Quote
Personally I wouldnt bother with one. They tends to be a bit crap...they basically have flux cored wire so you dont need gas, but I have heard they can produce appalling welds... Get yourself a decent normal MIG





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tegwin

posted on 22/1/07 at 05:23 PM Reply With Quote
I went the no-gas route and its not amazing...does the job, but its messy and the welds are crap..

Its a lot easier to learn to weld using a gas setup...

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Confused but excited.

posted on 22/1/07 at 05:25 PM Reply With Quote
They produce a lot of spatter, which looks and is very messy and takes more cleaning up. However having said that I personally have not had any trouble with bad welds. You are limited to about 4mm thick metal though.
Given an bigger budget, I would go for a proper set with an Argon bottle though.
Like all tools, get the best you can afford.





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ecosse

posted on 22/1/07 at 05:28 PM Reply With Quote
I've used no-gas wire with no probs, it is messier than gas (major spatter ) but with practice can produce good welds (surprising how much difference the wire makes to the quality of the weld), I wouldn't like to try it on a low power set though (aim for 150amp minimum) as the only good wire i've found is .9mm which may cause problems on low power migs IMHO

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speedyxjs

posted on 22/1/07 at 05:31 PM Reply With Quote
cheers guys il stick to gas





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andyps

posted on 22/1/07 at 10:00 PM Reply With Quote
Mine does both, the no-gas is great for outside when it is windy. Otherwise, I always use gas as it is better and probably cheaper.





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