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blakep82

posted on 14/3/09 at 02:32 PM Reply With Quote
sika flex?

i went to get some sika flex, someone said you get it from B&Q, which it about 40mins drive drom here. is this the right stuff? i couldn't find anything that said sika flex on it
sika
sika


also someone on here said i can use it to stick my trigger wheel to the front pully oin the car. is this true, or was he taking the wee?





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rusty nuts

posted on 14/3/09 at 02:45 PM Reply With Quote
Wouldn't like to have my trigger wheel come off the pulley at 7,000 RPM ! I made sure mine was well secured. Can't help with the stuff you have but would suggest asking your local car paint suppliers , they are likely to stock proper Sikaflex. Got my last tube from Unipart
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blakep82

posted on 14/3/09 at 02:48 PM Reply With Quote
well, i wouldn't like it coming off either! thats why i wasn't sure.
can't think of any paint suppliers round here





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big_wasa

posted on 14/3/09 at 03:06 PM Reply With Quote
A good Pu from any paint or car spares place.

I would in no way use it as the only faster for the trigger wheel

When dry it has some give like rubber not hard like epoxy.

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blakep82

posted on 14/3/09 at 03:13 PM Reply With Quote
ok, so i can get it from a car paint place, but what about the stuff i've got?





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Mal

posted on 14/3/09 at 03:15 PM Reply With Quote
The grade of Sikaflex normally used for bonding panels is 221.
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blakep82

posted on 14/3/09 at 03:30 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by robocog
Can't help you with the Sikaflex...

I certainly wouldn't want a ninja death star popping through the nosecone

Trigger wheel definately needs the minimum of a bolt through it as it would make a fair exit hole before potentially making an equally impressive entry hole in someone or something

I would only use PU on stuff that when it falls off is not likely to kill anyone

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Rob


mines definitely getting welded then





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Guinness

posted on 14/3/09 at 03:35 PM Reply With Quote
Give the boys at MAC1 a ring re the sikaflex.

I phoned them on a Thursday afternoon, and the tubes arrived on a Friday morning!

Top product, top service.

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wicket

posted on 14/3/09 at 03:57 PM Reply With Quote
Here's the data sheet for AT Universal

http://ukconstr01.webdms.sika.com/fileshow.do?id=542

and for 221

http://www.sika.co.uk/1-comp_poly_tech-2.pdf

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blakep82

posted on 14/3/09 at 04:12 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wicket
Here's the data sheet for AT Universal

http://ukconstr01.webdms.sika.com/fileshow.do?id=542

and for 221

http://www.sika.co.uk/1-comp_poly_tech-2.pdf


I'm only using to stick some perspex round here
Description
Description

and then the outer body panels fit on over that

and then door covers over that

its only really to stop things (money, house keys, body parts ) falling out the sides since the sills on the body work doesn't go all the way under the car

so looking at the data sheets, i think sikabond at will do the job well. it seems to have the same properties, and as far as i can tell, is almost identical for what i need it to do. i'm not using it to stick any panels on which will be subject to a battering from wind or anything like cycle wings for example.

at universal seems ideally suited to flooring, but still has the same elasticity and sticking properties


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rb968

posted on 14/3/09 at 05:36 PM Reply With Quote
If you are looking for Sikaflex 221 I noticed it in these guys catalogue.

http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=sikaflex

Rich

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dhutch

posted on 14/3/09 at 05:56 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
ok, so i can get it from a car paint place, but what about the stuff i've got?
The stuff you have there is clearly made by sika, and is an adheasive/sealer but from the datasheets above it doesnt apprear to be polyuerthene (PU) based.
- However, whether is does the job as well is upto somone else!

Daniel

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mr henderson

posted on 14/3/09 at 06:41 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by robocog
Can't help you with the Sikaflex...

I certainly wouldn't want a ninja death star popping through the nosecone

Trigger wheel definately needs the minimum of a bolt through it as it would make a fair exit hole before potentially making an equally impressive entry hole in someone or something




A trigger wheel is going to be spinning about itself, and won't have enough potential energy to do any real harm. If it was really heavy maybe, but even then it wouldn't go very far, probably just drop off and land in the road.

John






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omega 24 v6

posted on 14/3/09 at 06:46 PM Reply With Quote
Looks like this stuff.
on the left page 10 i think

Or this which it says is PU hybrid high strength sealer/adhesive
[url=http://www.sika.co.uk/uk-home/uk-con/uk_construction-builders-merchants/uk_construction-adhesives-sealant-fillers.htm]Fifth one down


Most SIKA sealer /adhesive stuff sticks like poo to a blanket I'm sure this will be fine. try it on a bit of scrap first and see.

[Edited on 14/3/09 by omega 24 v6]





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blakep82

posted on 14/3/09 at 07:32 PM Reply With Quote
^ looks like a 'new improved' sika flex then?
i don't know..

having looked at the data sheets, i think its more than up to the job since its only 1/4 the price of the stuff from Merlin i'm going to use it





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Canada EH!

posted on 14/3/09 at 09:03 PM Reply With Quote
Being as your on an Island, try your local marine dealer for Sikaflex.
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rusty nuts

posted on 15/3/09 at 12:34 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mr henderson
quote:
Originally posted by robocog
Can't help you with the Sikaflex...

I certainly wouldn't want a ninja death star popping through the nosecone

Trigger wheel definately needs the minimum of a bolt through it as it would make a fair exit hole before potentially making an equally impressive entry hole in someone or something




A trigger wheel is going to be spinning about itself, and won't have enough potential energy to do any real harm. If it was really heavy maybe, but even then it wouldn't go very far, probably just drop off and land in the road.


Dream on. Anything letting go at even 3,000 RPM can cause an awful lot of damage/injury I have seen fan blades exit a bonnet before and it's scary whet damage they can do . A trigger wheel coming loose after being put on with Sikaflex will come loose from one point on its circumference and fly off at a tangent . I for one would not like to be in the firing line!
John

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mr henderson

posted on 15/3/09 at 08:23 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
quote:
Originally posted by mr henderson
quote:
Originally posted by robocog
Can't help you with the Sikaflex...

I certainly wouldn't want a ninja death star popping through the nosecone

Trigger wheel definately needs the minimum of a bolt through it as it would make a fair exit hole before potentially making an equally impressive entry hole in someone or something




A trigger wheel is going to be spinning about itself, and won't have enough potential energy to do any real harm. If it was really heavy maybe, but even then it wouldn't go very far, probably just drop off and land in the road.


Dream on. Anything letting go at even 3,000 RPM can cause an awful lot of damage/injury I have seen fan blades exit a bonnet before and it's scary whet damage they can do . A trigger wheel coming loose after being put on with Sikaflex will come loose from one point on its circumference and fly off at a tangent . I for one would not like to be in the firing line!
John



How much does this trigger wheel weigh, then?

I daresay standing in its path would not be a good idea, but that's a hell of a far cry from it bursting through a bonnet and then seriously damaging a bystander, which is the scenario described earlier.

In any case, the comparison with a fan blade is seriously flawed, as each blade is laready some distance from the centre of rotation, a vital component of the centripetal force, whereas, as I said earlier, the trigger wheel would be spinning around its own centre.

HTH

John






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