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02GF74

posted on 30/6/09 at 08:28 PM Reply With Quote
MIG welding aluminium alloy

I need to change the outlet position of a crossflow aluminium alloy thermostat housing. I've sawn the top away from the base and need a 10 mm spacer in order to clear a nut.

Plan is to cut a 10 mm wide strip from 3 mm aluminium sheet, roll it to a tube and MIG weld it in between the two pieces.

What are my chances of succeeding?

Will MIG welding the housing cause problem due to incompatible metals?

Or am I better off looking to get it TIG welded?






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matt_gsxr

posted on 30/6/09 at 08:32 PM Reply With Quote
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whitestu

posted on 30/6/09 at 08:34 PM Reply With Quote
Unless you are a really good welder I'd say your chances of success are low. I had a go and got nowhere with it.


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flak monkey

posted on 30/6/09 at 08:39 PM Reply With Quote
http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/aluminium-welding.htm

Its not too difficult on thick stuff, but very tricky on thin sheet.





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rusty nuts

posted on 30/6/09 at 08:58 PM Reply With Quote
Many years ago when I was still at school doing metalwork I made a shooting stick , the top part of which I cast using aluminium . Easy to model the part in wax before making the mould in sand (may have been a special sand?)
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BenB

posted on 30/6/09 at 09:03 PM Reply With Quote
IMHO tack welding ali is okay, anything more than that using MIG is a bit tricky. But I think a combination of MIG for tacking followed by some Technoweld (bizarely for strength) is quite a good combo... That's what I'm using for my airbox anyway....
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MkII

posted on 30/6/09 at 09:26 PM Reply With Quote
quote;

What are my chances of succeeding?

somewhere between "slim and none at all"

i use mig for 6/8mm ally plate but for thin stuff allways tig.I repaire my crossflow thermostat housing with tig when the small air bleed outlet got snapped off. m.

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ashg

posted on 30/6/09 at 11:25 PM Reply With Quote
tig it. its the only sensible way.





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Sam

posted on 1/7/09 at 07:29 AM Reply With Quote
Unless everything with your MIG set is spot on it is likely you will fail miserably. i.e. drive rolls good condition preferable knurled ali rolls with correct pressure. teflon liner, short torch, clean contact tip and correct setting required. The most common problem is bird nests in the wire drive. TIG is the way forward !!
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MikeRJ

posted on 1/7/09 at 07:55 AM Reply With Quote
I've MIG welded alloy many years back, the results were not exactly pretty but it was strong enough. I've even welded a holed piston on a field bike!

It does take a lot of messing around to set the welder up for alloy wire though and you need a decent (pref. teflon) liner in the torch.

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iank

posted on 1/7/09 at 08:07 AM Reply With Quote
Best to use a gun mounted reel for aluminium.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_MiGrL9350
But since you need a bottle of pure argon it's probably cheaper to get someone to TIG it for you.





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GrumpyOne

posted on 1/7/09 at 08:43 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
Many years ago when I was still at school doing metalwork I made a shooting stick , the top part of which I cast using aluminium . Easy to model the part in wax before making the mould in sand (may have been a special sand?)


Silica sand, not readily available in small quantities also expensive, but you can use it many times.





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davie h

posted on 1/7/09 at 08:49 AM Reply With Quote
i attempted to shorten a mondeo zetec sump by ally mig welding gave up and bought a escort sump.

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