AdrianH
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| posted on 28/1/12 at 09:52 PM |
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Rover turbo inlet questions
I see that there are mods to fit the above inlet for a zetec to give a turbo inlet. But would they be OK to use as a standard inlet plenum similar to
say the griffin?
Basically use it for a normally aspirated engine.
Just an interest.
Cheers
Adrian
Why do I have to make the tools to finish the job? More time then money.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 28/1/12 at 10:13 PM |
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Yes if you mean the Rover T series inlet from the Rover 820 and 600ti .
The inlet on the normally aspirated and turbo versions of the engine were identical only difference were the injectors and pressure regulator and
the turbo logo.
I have a spare one sitting in the garage with injectors but no throttle body.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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AdrianH
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| posted on 28/1/12 at 10:18 PM |
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OK interesting I also wondered if the bottom manifold would bolt up to throttle bodies.
Does anyone use one for a NA Zetec?
Adrian
Why do I have to make the tools to finish the job? More time then money.
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coozer
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| posted on 29/1/12 at 01:22 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by AdrianH
Does anyone use one for a NA Zetec?
Adrian
Should be Ok I reckon, just need a plate like this....
Zetec Turbo Rover Turbo inlet manifold adaptor plate. | eBay
Bit dear but I think not ot hard to knock one up!
Steve
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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SausageArm
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| posted on 29/1/12 at 07:06 AM |
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I think it could be used to mount throttle bodies to, here's how the bottom half looks without the top half fitted, the one below has fiesta
turbo injectors and fiesta turbo fudl pressure regulator fitted to the rover fuel rail, aswell as a ford flange welded to the inlet runners
From another angle, you can see the o-rings and sleeves fitted to the manifold prior to fitting the upper half and also the sandwich plate
Sandwich plate with zetec injector ports blocked off
The finished article
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AdrianH
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| posted on 29/1/12 at 07:32 AM |
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Looks good, could you turn the plenum around with that set up to have the inlet at the front, or would it then foul on the fuel rail?
Sorry forget that there are curved tubes still on the top manifold. DUH.
Adrian
[Edited on 29-1-12 by AdrianH]
[Edited on 29-1-12 by AdrianH]
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SausageArm
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| posted on 29/1/12 at 07:38 AM |
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You could modify the plenum so the inlet was at the front. I forgot to mention that the rover plenum above has been cut and a plate welded to it to
allow the use of a fiesta turbo throttle body. Think i have more photos on my laptop if you'd like to see?
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AdrianH
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| posted on 29/1/12 at 08:09 AM |
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I will pick up an inlet today, complete assembly found for £25 close by so will have one to look over soon. Got autosolo this morning so out having
fun.
I will be back to ask any questions I have.
Cheers
Adrian
Why do I have to make the tools to finish the job? More time then money.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 29/1/12 at 09:06 AM |
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Ive bought a couple and wasnt overly impressed with the port spacing match..
SausageArm, some nice work there.
[Edited on 29/1/12 by big_wasa]
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SausageArm
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| posted on 29/1/12 at 10:44 AM |
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Thanks big_wasa. 
Here are some of the work in progress photos i took during the manifold project
The unmolested Rover inlet
The lower half of the Rover inlet with the flange cut off and machined flat
The Zetec flange cut off the manifold and machined flat
The two pieces welded together
The injector ports were then worked with a die grinder to take them back to original shape inside the inlet runners, the manifold was then clamped
down in a milling machine to take a flatten off the gasket face
Nice and flat
Just in case anyone is interested, the Fiesta Turbo rising rate fuel pressure regulator mounts to the Rover fuel rail, the only mod needed is to drill
and tap new mounting holes for the regulators mounting bolts, below you can see the two new ones and the two old ones.
and the finished article looked like this
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britishtrident
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| posted on 29/1/12 at 12:12 PM |
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A few years back I toyed with the idea of fitting 4 K series throttle bodies as down draught units on to the lower half of the T series
manifold.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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AdrianH
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| posted on 29/1/12 at 06:29 PM |
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Picked up the manifold but will be some time before I get to look at it, or cut it up if I pursue it..
Got to sort out bent front steering from a meeting with high kerb. 
Adrian
Very envious of the machining facilities.
Last question did you also machine in the O-ring groves and extra bits of tube. I guess that is to provide a better seal then standard Rover
gasket.
[Edited on 29-1-12 by AdrianH]
Why do I have to make the tools to finish the job? More time then money.
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SausageArm
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| posted on 29/1/12 at 07:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by AdrianH
Got to sort out bent front steering from a meeting with high kerb.
Very envious of the machining facilities.
Hope you sort the damage quickly/easily/cheaply ;-)
The machining facilities were at my last employer, unfortunately I no longer have access.
quote:
Originally posted by AdrianHLast question did you also machine in the O-ring groves and extra bits of tube. I guess that is to provide
a better seal then standard Rover gasket.
The O-rings/sleeves/grooves were already there as a standard setup from Rover.
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AdrianH
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| posted on 29/1/12 at 08:37 PM |
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Damage should be easy to sort, just the effort of removing the nose cone, radiator, front suspension and steering. I think I have bent back the
suspension brackets and now the bodywork is riveted and sikaflex'd on I have to work from inside the front end. Just time I guess and a old
brackets to cut off and weld new on.
Must look at mine closer but did not appear to have the rubbers and internal tubes. Just a paper gasket between the mating surfaces. Has the word
injection on the plenum so not sure if turbo or not, although there is a hose from the plenum to the top of the fuel reg so would suggest turbo to
me?
I have just taken a few pictures.
 
Also trial fitted the injector loom from Ford Mondeo and it fits nicely with the spacing.
Adrian
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Why do I have to make the tools to finish the job? More time then money.
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Lebowski
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| posted on 22/3/12 at 02:32 AM |
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Is the Rover unit an improvement over the N/A Ford unit? If you're running it N/A it seems like a lot of work, unless you have packaging
issues?
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