coozer
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 04:56 PM |
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Locost Sawbench
Following on from my request about the electric motor I took advantage of the vat free offer at Machine Mart.
So, went along and grabbed a 3hp motor, starter and pulley
Got a speed shaft off the net, comes with a small pulley, I made a new arbor to suit the blades I got from ToolStation out of 2" steel bar, bit
stronger than that one there..
Made a mount for the speed shaft to fix on top of the horse...
Adjustable mount for the motor...
After getting the maths wrong for the belt managed to get the right one which arrived yesterday...
Blade runs round at 4800rpm and is quite scary to be honest, the motor is just about silent but the blade makes a ferocious noise!
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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me!
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 05:42 PM |
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Video of it attacking wood or it didn't happen....
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zilspeed
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 05:46 PM |
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I won't comment on the lack of guard.
It desperately needs a riving knife to stop catastrophic jams though.
(Not a made up term.)
What's your use for this creation ?
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owelly
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 05:56 PM |
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I predict a "fxxking saw. I'm off to B&Q to buy one...." thread coming soon along with a picture of some poor soul with a log in
his head. Be careful out there!
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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BenB
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 05:57 PM |
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Do you live near an A+E department? Would it be worth moving to nearer one before you use it in anger?
Nice work but it looks like something out of a horror movie!
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zilspeed
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 06:02 PM |
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Second all of the above.
I used to work in a joiners workshop.
You really don't want to get complacent with a table saw.
You have no guard, no riving knife and no sliding fence for crosscutting.
I bet you're cutting logs with this bad boy.
Can someone go round there and put this man into some sort of protective custody ?
~Or~
Careful now 
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JoelP
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 06:14 PM |
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My table saw at work is just like that, with all the guards removed. I found they got in the way! The biggest danger is someone falling onto it, it
really isnt so bad in use. Mines is 2kw so compareable power.
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zilspeed
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 06:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
My table saw at work is just like that, with all the guards removed. I found they got in the way! The biggest danger is someone falling onto it, it
really isnt so bad in use. Mines is 2kw so compareable power.
FFS....
I had an old boss with a saw like that too.
The day he lost half his right hand after 40 years in the trade wasn't a high point.
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Wadders
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 06:40 PM |
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Sorry i know you probably spent ages making the beast, but it reminds me of this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bVAAx3mMKY
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coozer
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 07:12 PM |
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Yep, one of those log splitters is next
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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coozer
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 07:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
Second all of the above.
I used to work in a joiners workshop.
You really don't want to get complacent with a table saw.
You have no guard, no riving knife and no sliding fence for crosscutting.
I bet you're cutting logs with this bad boy.
Can someone go round there and put this man into some sort of protective custody ?
~Or~
Careful now
Guard? Whats that?
Riving knife? whats that?
Sliding fence? Its only for chopping pallets up for the fire..
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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neilp1
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 07:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coozer
quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
Second all of the above.
I used to work in a joiners workshop.
You really don't want to get complacent with a table saw.
You have no guard, no riving knife and no sliding fence for crosscutting.
I bet you're cutting logs with this bad boy.
Can someone go round there and put this man into some sort of protective custody ?
~Or~
Careful now
Guard? Whats that?
Riving knife? whats that?
Sliding fence? Its only for chopping pallets up for the fire..
Bye Bye fingers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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nick205
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 07:52 PM |
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Admire your Locost approach Coozer, but for pity sake be careful with that!!!
It just screams LIMB DAMAGE 
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Daddylonglegs
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 08:20 PM |
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If squeamish, look away now.....
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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myke pocock
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 08:43 PM |
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Realy repeating substantially what others have said but if you have no experience of table saws you realy dont know what you could be letting yourself
into. Regulations that have taken years to write and develop are there for a very good reason and it is no defence to say something like " its
only to chop old pallets up for the fire". The rules are the same even if you were making repro Chippendale furniture. How do I know and why am
I such a know all? Trained as a cabinet maker and woodworker 45 years ago and been working as a technician in woodwork, metalwork and jewellery in a
school and college for 30 odd years!!! (And still got all my fingers!)
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Wadders
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 08:57 PM |
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Assuming you have any fingers left once the saw and log splitter are finished, you might fancy a go at this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4qB6n1cm04&feature=related
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TAZZMAXX
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 09:04 PM |
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No one has mentioned the dangers of excessive peripheral speed yet. Personally, I wouldn't use it
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coozer
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 09:29 PM |
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What benefits is a riving knife behind the blade???
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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owelly
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 09:35 PM |
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It stops the back of the blade getting nipped and throwing the wood at your head.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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zilspeed
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 09:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by owelly
It stops the back of the blade getting nipped and throwing the wood at your head.
What he said.
If the wood gets jammed, it can gather speed awfully quickly and clatter you.
At this point, you're either unconscious or clutching your arm / nads and the fecker's still running unchecked.
Add in that a table saw is primarily designed for cutting sheet material, not crosscutting.
If you must crosscut, you really need a sliding jig to do so, but it's far from ideal compared to a pullover crosscut.
If you're running a proper table saw to cut 19m ply, it's running true against a fence which is absolutely dead on alignment with the
blade and his a riving knife.
It's not going to pick up the blade and cause a jam.
You have none of these err "niceties".
Seriously dude.
I'll go on.
You've got way too much blade showing.
You only really need as much showing as is required to cut the material and not very much more.
That's why a proper saw has adjustment of the blade height, a riving knife and a guard over the top.
There to do a job and not rip your arm off.
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matt_gsxr
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 09:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by owelly
It stops the back of the blade getting nipped and throwing the wood at your head.
wonderfully succinct as ever.
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Peteff
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 10:40 PM |
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A friend of mine lost 1.5 fingers to a table saw with a guard and riving knife fitted just a couple of months ago, who knows what he could have done
with that tool. (he slipped was his excuse) Luckily his son was home from college for the weekend and heard him yell before he fainted or he could
have been in a lot more trouble. It's knackered him up for his two main hobbies, guitar and tin whistle playing and he just spent a load of
money on a Low E whistle.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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TheGiantTribble
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| posted on 1/7/12 at 11:06 PM |
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I applaud your ability to make it, and your enthusiam
and I hate to say it but
the once in a life time you need the machines guard YOU NEED IT BAD
you don't need to wishing you had it
because odds on at the point you have had it
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hughpinder
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| posted on 2/7/12 at 08:36 AM |
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I've used something similar to saw up pallets. It's not my favourite machine and as you say the sound of the blade at speed makes the
hairs on the back of your neck stand up. I've replace it with a band saw which is much nicer to use.
The main danger in my experience is twisting (in the vertical plane) of the pallets as you saw them. To avoid this just ensure your table is wide and
deep enough to support the width of the pallet and the length as you feed it in( I'd suggest 2/3 of the width/length of the largest pallet you
intend to use to one side and in front of the blade, and about 1/2 out the back as ideal) The width only needs to be on one side, I prefer to have it
on the right, but its up to you. I'd suggest a riving knife as its only a bit of 3mm steel behind the blade anyway and does stop the blade from
getting caught, which damges the blade as well as being dangerous. As for guards, the thing you're feeding in is 5-6 inches high, so if your
guard clears that you can get your arm in anyway, so I wouldn't be as fussed as some here. If your table is deep enough in front to support the
pallet, you'd have a hard time getting to the blade anyway without deliberately jumping on the table. ALWAYS use a push stick to complete the
feed, ALWAYS power off if you get a jam, and check the blades still tight afterwards, ALWAYS stop if the sound of the blade changes when its not
cutting- Ive seen a 12 inch blade come off a machine at full speed and it does a lot of damage (That was at a proper workshop with a fully guarded
blade, and the blade came throught the 16 gauge metal casing of the saw and embedded itself about 2 inches into the wooden wall). Don't keep
going when you get tired, thats when you're most likely to not bother with the push stick etc.
Just be careful
Regards
Hugh
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richwill
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| posted on 2/7/12 at 11:26 AM |
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Not sure how much you have spent on this but you could buy a proper purpose made saw bench for a reasonable price £300-400 . This would be fit for
purpose and fitted with the correct safety guards, riving knife etc.
I would suggest that if you use this homemade bench you will regret it.
You wont be able drive very well with only one hand !
I split my thumb down the middle working on a fully guarded saw at work which I used everyday.
You do not want to take any risks with this kind of saw. IT WILL BITE YOU.
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