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Author: Subject: there is no room for complacency in the garage
skinny

posted on 22/11/04 at 10:42 AM Reply With Quote
there is no room for complacency in the garage

just thought i'd knock a little off my wing stays with my angle grinder, with the wheels on. didn't bother with gloves or safety specs cos figured it would take about 5 seconds (tho always ear protectors for some reason). 1st one fine, second one, got half way thru and the angle grinder caught the wheel. then started shaking violently. turned it off, there was a bit chunk out the disk like someone took a bite off it. don't know where it got to but could have been very nasty, the sparks from the angle grinder were going between my straddled legs!





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ned

posted on 22/11/04 at 10:59 AM Reply With Quote
yeoouch! always wear the specs, i've been in a+e for a few hours cos i didn't, a lesson learnt... (and i'm not the first and won't be the last)

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David Jenkins

posted on 22/11/04 at 11:19 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by skinny
don't know where it got to but could have been very nasty, the sparks from the angle grinder were going between my straddled legs!


Sounds like a cricketer's box might be a wise option!

rgds,

David






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MikeR

posted on 22/11/04 at 01:00 PM Reply With Quote
I got something in the skin just next to my eye a year or so ago - swelled up and made me realise how close it was to being in my eye (less than 5mm).

Ever since i've ALWAYS worn protection, eyes, ears and gloves!!!!

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David Jenkins

posted on 22/11/04 at 01:06 PM Reply With Quote
In a similar way, I still have a little mark on the INSIDE of my spectacles, caused by welding spatter - and I did have my welding helmet on!

rgds,

David






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andyps

posted on 22/11/04 at 01:18 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by David Jenkins
In a similar way, I still have a little mark on the INSIDE of my spectacles, caused by welding spatter - and I did have my welding helmet on!

rgds,

David


Got loads of them - I only use an old pair of specs when welding these days! Particularly get them when welding from below.





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MikeP

posted on 22/11/04 at 02:45 PM Reply With Quote
Wow, pretty scary, good you're ok.

I thought it was a bad idea to wear gloves when using any type of power tool that moves - saws, grinders, etc., due to the risk of the gloves catching and pulling in your fingers?

I'm always mislaying things so I've bought a number of safety goggles. I leave them all over my garage in strategic locations so there's always a pair within reach - no excuses. There's not much that could screw up my hobby time or work worse than damaged vision.

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indykid

posted on 22/11/04 at 11:59 PM Reply With Quote
i think i could do with a pair of safety specs. was cutting the base plate out on my new k&n and got not one but 2 bits of swarf in my eye.

it annoyed me all last night but managed to get both bits out luckily.

good job it wasn't mild or it'd probably have started rusting. my dad had to get rust scraped off his eyeball with a needle when he got some grinding sparks in his eye. it made me squirm watching

tom






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James

posted on 23/11/04 at 10:45 AM Reply With Quote
The fiver a pair 'superior' (or whatever they're called) goggles from Screwfix are pretty good- large vew area, wide strap and none of the stupid ventilation holes around the side which let the sparks in!

I wear Halfords welding gauntlits whilst grinding- ever since I put the wire brush attachment into the back of my hand!

Always have ear-defenders on too.

James

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indykid

posted on 23/11/04 at 10:53 AM Reply With Quote
i can't do with goggles myself james, but they do glasses as well don't they? might have to order some.

the wire brushes from screwfix are too dished to fit in the cheapy grinders we have, so had to take the shroud off to modify it.

the occasion came to use it whilst it was being modified and all i can say is DON'T EVER DO THIS!

apart from getting peppered with wire bristles, the grinder kicked back and got caught in my boiler suit. it was a good job it was a cold day and i had plenty of layers on, or i'd have got a bit taken off the front suede trainers don't fair so well either

i'm my own worst enemy
tom

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James

posted on 23/11/04 at 10:58 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by indykid
i can't do with goggles myself james, but they do glasses as well don't they?
[Edited on 23/11/04 by indykid]


Don't really know what the difference is!

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indykid

posted on 23/11/04 at 11:21 AM Reply With Quote
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indykid

posted on 23/11/04 at 11:21 AM Reply With Quote
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DarrenW

posted on 23/11/04 at 12:13 PM Reply With Quote
I have worked in factories where glasses had to be worn as a matter of course when on the shop floor. They give a general level of protection. However for job specific protection you will need to assess the risks and where the appropriate level of protection.

The last company i worked at was a fabrication company. For welding of course full face visors were used, however for dressing they all used visors as opposed to goggles as these protect the full face and neck area, often glasses were worn as well to protect from stray bits and when the visor was removed etc (mainly to protect from third party work which is not as relevant when working on own).

Anyone who sells eye protection should be able to assist with rishk assessment and advise appropriate gear to wear.

I hope this helps.

Regards,
Darren.






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silex

posted on 23/11/04 at 12:30 PM Reply With Quote
Be carefull using gloves with grinders - especially the welding gauntlet veriety. I put a half inch deep groove into my left thumb because of a pair of thick gloves that got caught up. If it was not for cat like reflexes i'm pretty sure I would be down to one and a half thumbs by now.






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Peteff

posted on 23/11/04 at 01:02 PM Reply With Quote
What were you doing at the time?

When I was fettling on the foundry end you were disciplined for not wearing gloves when grinding. If you are holding the grinder where you should your glove is not near the blade.





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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stephen_gusterson

posted on 23/11/04 at 02:02 PM Reply With Quote
gloves have saved my fingers when grinding many a time.

couple months back i put a groove in my finger when i tried to go without






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skinny

posted on 23/11/04 at 02:12 PM Reply With Quote
i would probably advise some thin gloves - if they are close to the hands they are less likely to get caught up and it's preferable to picking metal splinters out your hands for the next week.

what are the rules about using an angle grinder on aluminium - does it require a special wheel? i ended up with a fair spattering of hot metal chunks welding themselves to the crotch of a pair of shorts i was wearing (again straddling the sparks, only this time there weren't really any...) luckily they were fairly baggy





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Peteff

posted on 23/11/04 at 03:54 PM Reply With Quote
welding themselves to the crotch of a pair of shorts i was wearing

It just gets worse. Get some overalls.





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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stephen_gusterson

posted on 23/11/04 at 03:59 PM Reply With Quote
there is no room for complacency in my garage - or much else for that matter!


buy a 4 quid pair of tesco jeans and save your shorts (and curly) bits

atb

steve

[Edited on 23/11/04 by stephen_gusterson]






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rusty nuts

posted on 23/11/04 at 06:25 PM Reply With Quote
Try a leather apron , stops debris from penetrating and does'nt cost a fortune. Much better protection than overalls and can be used when welding, Had debris in my eye a few years ago that eye clinic could not get out. a week later was peeling an onion and debris came out. A last resort I know , but worth a try.
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David Jenkins

posted on 23/11/04 at 07:44 PM Reply With Quote
I have a leather welder's apron (quite cheap) that I use when wire-brushing with the angle grinder. I started doing this when my legs looked like they had measles one day...

David






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krlthms

posted on 23/11/04 at 09:38 PM Reply With Quote
Have you guys ever heard of the Darwin awards?
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krlthms

posted on 23/11/04 at 09:41 PM Reply With Quote
Have you guys ever heard of the Darwin awards?
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phelpsa

posted on 23/11/04 at 10:44 PM Reply With Quote
Once when I was grinding I felt something hot on my finger. Turned the grinder off to find that my hand had slipped down and the grinder had cut straight throught the glove. Could have been nasty!

Adam






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