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hearnia

posted on 27/4/05 at 05:33 PM Reply With Quote
Wheels

Hi,
I'm thinking of going for 17x7 wheels, and was wondering what the best offset is? Any suggestions?

Cheers
Joe

[Edited on 27/4/05 by hearnia]

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zilspeed

posted on 27/4/05 at 05:58 PM Reply With Quote
On your MK ?

Are you sure - really sure - about that ?

If you fitted 17" wheels, what size and type of tyres would you be fitting ?

This is where I advise you to fit the smallest wheel diameter you can get away with. On an Indy, that will probably be 14" because you can't fit 13"s over the back calipers. But that's ok -you'll still be able to fit decent tyres - Yokos or Avons.

Of course, you might be more interested in appearance than grip and handling

I'll get me coat...
JF (traditionalist wheel size faction)

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hearnia

posted on 27/4/05 at 06:18 PM Reply With Quote
I appreciate what you're saying, but I cant make my mind up. I have seen a few with smaller wheels, and a few with 17's and wasn't able to make my mind up on what appearance I prefered.

I have my eye on a set of big brakes (not that they need to be that big) and 17's are the only size that will fit them comfortably.

I would be going for either pirelli p zero corsa tyres, or something similar, barely road legal tyre really.

Opinions are greatly welcomed.

Cheers
Joe

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type r1

posted on 27/4/05 at 06:29 PM Reply With Quote
hi joe.

try these.
i have them on my indy.

brand new and unused 6 X 14 compomotives (look like CXRs, only with a centre cap, and weigh 6.3kg each) shod with 185 60 14 yokohama A539 rubber.

they are four stud, 108 pcd and et 33 offset (ford fitment).

check this thread for pictures.

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=14292

£384 + carriage.

kindest regards,

dom.

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zetec

posted on 27/4/05 at 06:49 PM Reply With Quote
I have to agree on size. Fitting 17" with low profile tyres is not perhaps the best option. if you want big brakes (take it from me even the standard Sierra ones are well up to the job) then 15" will allow the latest Wilwood 4 pot kit to fit. The Wilwood rep suggested non vented discs 240 or 260mm seem to be the best option for "7" style cars as the bigger vented ones take too long to get to working temp even on the track.

Also check out the extra weight of 17" wheels.

I would go for 15" with a 55 or 60 ratio tyre next time round.





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hearnia

posted on 27/4/05 at 08:02 PM Reply With Quote
I'm going to take your advice and go with some 15's. I was looking at the wilwood set up anyway, as Rally Design are local to me and offering a good price on the kit.

Now I just have to choose a style!!!

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Hellfire

posted on 27/4/05 at 09:01 PM Reply With Quote
The CXR's are good and very light. Taste is something you could loose sleep over...

Our CXR's

complete with Toyo Proxes R888 take the total weight to 15Kg/corner.

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PAUL FISHER

posted on 27/4/05 at 11:56 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hearnia
Hi,
I'm thinking of going for 17x7 wheels, and was wondering what the best offset is? Any suggestions?

Cheers
Joe

[Edited on 27/4/05 by hearnia]

The offset on my 17"alloys is ET 38,not found any problems with mine with grip or handling,also fitted bigger brakes 280mm none vented disc's,with four pot Hi spec's,infact Ive just bought some new wheels and tyres this week ,I had a choice of 15" 16"or 17" and i went for 17" wheels again,I just think they look better Rescued attachment 7.jpg
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DaveFJ

posted on 28/4/05 at 08:02 AM Reply With Quote
I am currently on the look out for a good set of 16"s for my Avon. My problem is trying to get something to clear my princess calipers

I know some (viper for one) have fitted 17"s but the general opinion on here seems to be that handling will suffer.





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flak monkey

posted on 28/4/05 at 08:07 AM Reply With Quote
I like the look of these myself ...Wolfrace Street Octane £395 per set in 15".



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David





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Crazy Jay

posted on 28/4/05 at 09:06 AM Reply With Quote
they were the wheels i wanted. damn guy ordered the wrong ones in
Altho now i think i like the ones i hav better!!

Agree with paul, 17s jus look better my opinion.
Paul, wat wheels did u get??

I Went with these



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PAUL FISHER

posted on 28/4/05 at 06:36 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
I like the look of these myself ...Wolfrace Street Octane £395 per set in 15".



Cheers,
David

Those are the wheels Ive bought,in 17" from same place as well fitted with Kumho ecsta v70 semi slicks.
Thats a nice wheel you have picked Jay very similar to the wolrace dragons I had on mine ,they only weighed 7kg each so those you have picked should be about the same.
[Edited on 19/05/04 by PAUL FISHER]

[Edited on 19/05/04 by PAUL FISHER]

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Crazy Jay

posted on 29/4/05 at 01:58 AM Reply With Quote
With tyre each wheel weighs 3 stone tho
Did u go for the black?? Wud look great with ur car, bit dark maybe with mine. Thts y the guy didnt get me them, cause apparently they dont make them in shadow chrome anymore

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hearnia

posted on 29/4/05 at 05:51 PM Reply With Quote
I bought some of the Wolfrace Street Octanes today in 15" with 195/50 yoko a048r tyres. Should be here in a couple of weeks!
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flak monkey

posted on 29/4/05 at 05:56 PM Reply With Quote
A man with taste!





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indykid

posted on 30/4/05 at 08:53 AM Reply With Quote
fyi, although 17s may be too big to give spot on handling, they don't have to be heavy.

pro race 1's with 205/40/17 R888's weigh 16.2Kg per corner

don't go for the pro race 1.2s though, as the chunkier rim adds a significant amount of weight.

i love those cxr's though hellfire. i fancied some, but i didn't have a sawn off to rob the bank. can't help thinking they look better in 17" though

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Rorty

posted on 1/5/05 at 06:21 AM Reply With Quote
17 inchers just look ridiculous on these sorts of cars!
They also make one wonder as to the owner's/driver's comprehension of suspension/traction and their competance with the car's build as a whole with respect to the above.
All IMHO of course.





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john_p_b

posted on 1/5/05 at 04:18 PM Reply With Quote
come on rorty, spit it out, say what u r really thinking!

seen plenty running on 17"s at stoneleigh today, ok they don't give it the true 7 look that 13"s do but 17"s do look rather nice and if you can afford to budget them into the build and want that size then go for it.

all IMHO of course

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phelpsa

posted on 1/5/05 at 05:24 PM Reply With Quote
I would go for 15"s myself on an Indy. I saw plenty at stoneleigh with 17's aswell but i thought they looked stupid.

Adam






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john_p_b

posted on 1/5/05 at 05:53 PM Reply With Quote
i have 15's on mine
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phelpsa

posted on 1/5/05 at 06:03 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by john_p_b
i have 15's on mine


Good! I'm putting 14"s on my Locost and they look big enough!

Adam






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Rorty

posted on 1/5/05 at 09:11 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by john_p_b
i have 15's on mine

Jeez, you're a class act!





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john_p_b

posted on 1/5/05 at 09:14 PM Reply With Quote
well going on the fact that the argument seems to be between tiny 13's or huge 17's i think having 15's makes me a well balanced individual
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richardR1

posted on 1/5/05 at 09:42 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rorty
17 inchers just look ridiculous on these sorts of cars!
They also make one wonder as to the owner's/driver's comprehension of suspension/traction and their competance with the car's build as a whole with respect to the above.
All IMHO of course.


Fail to see the link between personal preference over rim size and competence with a car's build as a whole. And yes, before you ask, I am building mine on 17's.

Simple principle which applies to all of us - my car, my money, my choice

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Rorty

posted on 1/5/05 at 09:57 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by richardR1
quote:
Originally posted by Rorty
17 inchers just look ridiculous on these sorts of cars!
They also make one wonder as to the owner's/driver's comprehension of suspension/traction and their competance with the car's build as a whole with respect to the above.
All IMHO of course.


Fail to see the link between personal preference over rim size and competence with a car's build as a whole. And yes, before you ask, I am building mine on 17's.

Simple principle which applies to all of us - my car, my money, my choice

My notion is that those running 17" wheels and tyres either put form before function, or they are ignorant of the principals of suspension design and traction limits.
That being the case, then one has to wonder as to the builder's comprehension of other principals involved in the design and building of a car. Hence my reservations about the 17 incher car's quality and integrity as a whole.
Yes, your money, your choice, and quite rightly so, but it still doesn't shift my argument.





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