JoelP
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| posted on 30/12/05 at 10:49 PM |
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dremmel type tools
i fancy getting a small dremmel type rotary tool. Does anyone have experience of good or bad ones. The most powerful corded one i found on ebay was
130w, which seems comparable to the real dremmels. Id prefer a corded one rather than cordless.
If you got one, how useful have you found it? im thinking more delicate grinding than drilling/sanding etc.
any input appreciated 
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James
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| posted on 30/12/05 at 10:52 PM |
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Hey Mate,
IIRC you've got a compressor haven't you?
Have you looked at the air driven die grinder jobs? Have used a few at work and they seem pretty good/powerful.
There's a lot of air to use there tho! 
Cheers,
James
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flak monkey
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| posted on 30/12/05 at 10:54 PM |
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I have got one, got it from B&Q a couple of years ago. 250W IIRC. 240V. Came with a flexible shaft, and a shed load of bits and bobs. Cost about
£30 i think, absolute bargain.
Very useful, and nice and powerful for when you want to use it for a tougher job.
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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Peteff
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| posted on 30/12/05 at 10:56 PM |
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Aldi do one sometimes.
£14.99 with a stand and attachments under the name Powercraft. I bought one 2 years ago for myself and the dear wife (she's used it most) and
it's been absolutely brilliant. I'm going to get another when they have them again just to keep in the shed (she doesn't like me
scruffing it up). It has a flexi shaft as well.
Die grinders gobble cfm, if you have a diy compressor it will run non-stop to keep up.
[Edited on 30/12/05 by Peteff]
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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mak
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| posted on 30/12/05 at 11:00 PM |
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Yeah I second David. Think its called the 300 series dremel, old stock so its £30 (B&Q), the equivalent new version with extra features you
don't need is doube the price. Bought one wednesday and does the job well.
Mark
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k33ts
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| posted on 30/12/05 at 11:02 PM |
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i bought one from maplins £20 i think use it alot but lacks power wen grinding.
im gona get a better one.
its one of them tools you keep on the bench because you use it so much.
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RazMan
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| posted on 30/12/05 at 11:05 PM |
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B&Q again - their own brand cheapie one. I've used and abused it for a couple of years now and it is still going strong. I also bought one
of their mega tool sets with loads of cutting wheels, burrs, drills etc and its great too.
Neither will last a lifetime but at that price you just bin it and buy another
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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planetester
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| posted on 30/12/05 at 11:09 PM |
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My local Lidl had them today, a pal bought one last time they had them & he says its good value
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keets
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| posted on 30/12/05 at 11:10 PM |
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dont get one from tesco's just about do your finger nails with it
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emsfactory
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| posted on 30/12/05 at 11:17 PM |
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For small detailed work, yeh.
If you have air your better with an air die grinder. Has the power for the bigger jobs, can still do the detailed work and I think they are more
robust.
I have always found electric ones to overheat pretty quickley.
Just my two cents.
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jolson
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| posted on 30/12/05 at 11:29 PM |
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Funny, I was just looking at Demels today... forum telepathy again
Was the B&Q one the same as
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log01%2fen_GB%2fcategories%3c%7b8530301%7d%2fcategories%3c%7b8530334%7d%2f_wide_price_range%3d0-50&fh_refview=lister&ts=1135984889245]this[/ur
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(don't know why this link doesn't paste properly... I found it by going to www.diy.com and selecting Tools & Materials, Powertools
& Handtools, £0 - £50.)
The website says its a Performance Power 140w with flexible shaft, stand, and 150 "accessories". The real Dremel I was looking at was
the '300' - 125w and 66 accessories for exactly double the price
I'm off to have a look in the morning.
[Edited on 2005-12-30 by jolson]
Cheers
John
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Hugh Paterson
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| posted on 30/12/05 at 11:30 PM |
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Air fed die grinders slaughter lecy ones, I have eaten three or four electric jobs and the air one just keeps battering on, my oldest air jobbie is a
draper (well thats whats on the side anyhows) dremmels aint worth squat
Shug.
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flak monkey
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| posted on 30/12/05 at 11:33 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jolson
The website says its a Performance Power 140w with flexible shaft, stand, and 150 "accessories". The real Dremel I was looking at was
the '300' - 125w and 66 accessories for exactly double the price
I'm off to have a look in the morning.
Thats the one I have...I havent used it for ages, and thought it was more powerful than that. I havent stalled it when using it anyway. Last job was
removing the grout from around some tiles which had to come out...handled it without a problem. Its also been used a lot for my modelling,
cutting/shaping fibreglass etc. Not given me any problems yet.
I have got a normal much less powerful one as well which i use for really fine work. I think its 50w, and its 12v.
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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RazMan
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| posted on 30/12/05 at 11:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jolson
Was the B&Q one the same as blah blah blah
Certainly looks like my one, although I didn't get the flexible shaft.
[Edited on 30-12-05 by RazMan]
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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Sirius
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| posted on 31/12/05 at 12:33 AM |
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I have a Black & Decker Wizard, rotary tool, its ok but its important not to ask too much of them. If you use them for the jobs for which they
were intended then they are excellent.
I have broken one in the past using one of the reinforced cutting discs, the job really should have been done with an angle grinder or similar.
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mak
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| posted on 31/12/05 at 12:51 AM |
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John,
Was'nt that one, but looks similar design, only used my dremel (300 series if my memory serves me) to widen a hole in 6mm steel, took its time,
but never stalled, although got quite toasty. I would recommend it. I would'nt have bought a dremel, but I think it was a good deal, and I
did'nt want to end up with a half useful tool made by rolson or 'Powerbase'.
Also noticed you can buy diamond wheels for it for about £25!
Flexi shaft looks like it will be useful for jobs like porting a head? (although I have never done this).
On the subject of tools, has anyone else noticed that homebase sells alot of really terrible tools? I'm sure they used to be reputable, but I
broke a file i bought from them in about 20 seconds, and the grinding wheel I bought, which to be fair was cheap, but should'nt even be on sale
its so underpowered! GRRRR
Mark
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JoelP
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| posted on 31/12/05 at 01:02 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mak
On the subject of tools, has anyone else noticed that homebase sells alot of really terrible tools?
i hate homebase! its overpriced crap.
been looking on the machine mart webshite, i think im going to get a small air die grinder and a 9" proper grinder, to complement the 4.5"
grinder i currently have. Im thinking their own brand is the best bet, as its about £50 for both! Then i'll either get an air reciever to hold
more air, or a bigger pump
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MkIndy7
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| posted on 31/12/05 at 01:03 AM |
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A similar thing was posted a while back
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=24552
Would still go with the Black and Decker i'd posted about there although it looks like they've jazzed up the range a bit and replaced it
with this
http://www.blackanddecker.com/ProductGuide/Product-Details.aspx?ProductID=2534
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Danozeman
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| posted on 31/12/05 at 09:06 AM |
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Ive got a black and deckor wizard. Its good and powerful but i find it a little arkward to hold for fidly bits. Although that might just be me.
If u dont want to do too fidly bits an air die grinder would be the way forward unless u want to do it indoors. There are some air powered modelers
grinders which have there own little compressor.
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
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need4speed
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| posted on 31/12/05 at 10:40 AM |
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Don't get a Focus one rubbish had two fail doing easy jobs then got my money back.
The air one I have is great but does use loads of air to keep it going.
Dave
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britishtrident
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| posted on 31/12/05 at 10:45 AM |
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Air die grinders and cut off tools are best by far but need a very big compressor.
The 240v ones sold at by B&Q, Woolworth, Maplin and others as own brand are fine, I use a Woolies one to cut off nail heads and similar small
stuff.
I haven't tried the Lidl one but from experience all Lidl "Park" brand power tools I have bought were pretty good quality.
[Edited on 31/12/05 by britishtrident]
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chriscook
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| posted on 31/12/05 at 05:15 PM |
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I've been through 4 or 5 B&Q mains powered tools - I would asked for my money back after the 2nd one went but they come with a new set of
tools/accessories
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SixedUp
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| posted on 31/12/05 at 06:39 PM |
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FYI, I was in my local Aldi yesterday, and they had dremel look-a-likes (the tool, a flexible drive, and some bits in a case) going for about £15 or
so. They also had sets of spare bits/tools in a case (about 30-40 bits) for less than a fiver.
The quality may not be the greatest (I dont have one, so I can't really comment) but at that price they dont need to be - they're nearly
disposible ... !
Cheers
Richard
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Noodle
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| posted on 31/12/05 at 07:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
£14.99 with a stand and attachments under the name Powercraft. I bought one 2 years ago for myself and the dear wife (she's used it most) and
it's been absolutely brilliant. I'm going to get another when they have them again just to keep in the shed (she doesn't like me
scruffing it up). It has a flexi shaft as well.
Die grinders gobble cfm, if you have a diy compressor it will run non-stop to keep up.
[Edited on 30/12/05 by Peteff]
I bought one of these about a year ago, It's been remarkably good.
Viva Aldi!
Cheers,
Neil.
Your sort make me sick
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johnjulie
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| posted on 1/1/06 at 11:29 AM |
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Dremel 300 from B&Q, £29.99 and 15% off if you spend over £50. It includes a flexible drive, which costs £35 from B&Q!
Also has tools. Really good value.
Cheers Johnl
JFDI
"Just F*****G Do It"
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