chrsgrain
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| posted on 15/2/06 at 09:25 AM |
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Brake pipe flaring tool - which one?
Hi all,
decided I need to get one of these, after making do with popping down to the local friendly garage up until now...
Has anyone got any suggestions of a good one? Obviously don't want to spend a fortune, but there's nothing worse than cheap tools...
Chris
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splitrivet
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| posted on 15/2/06 at 09:42 AM |
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The cheapo tools are fine for copper Chris but they fall over a bit when it comes to Kunifer,thats what I found anyroad.When using the cheapo one
(Machine fart) treat the die with respect they break real easy.
I spose youve got to ask yourself how often are you going to use it after the build or who are you going to lend it to never to see again, as happened
with my first Snap on one.
Cheers,
Bob
I used to be a Werewolf but I'm alright nowwoooooooooooooo
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jos
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| posted on 15/2/06 at 10:00 AM |
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Ive got a draper one which I bought through ebay which Ive never used which you can buy if you like.
http://www.drapertools-online.com:8080/b2c/b2citmdsp.pgm?pp_skmno=37870
.: Motorsport / motor racing circuit / track wall art Apex Traxs :.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 15/2/06 at 11:59 AM |
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Most of the cheaper ones need the mating surfaces of the female dies ground down a bit to allow them to grip the the pipe properly or the pipe will
slip through when you apply pressure.
Either rub the dies down on sheet wet & dry on a good flat surface or put some grinding paste on a bit of plate glass and use that as a lapping
plate.
The best flaring tool is the Sykes-Pickavant type --- very expensive but almost identical tools are available from other suppiers at about haf the
price.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 15/2/06 at 12:10 PM |
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I've got one the type shown in this article.
Bought in a local shop (Motormania). Only does one size (3/16" ) but will handle any material (copper, kunifer or steel).
Not expensive at all.
David
[Edited on 16/2/06 by David Jenkins]
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splitrivet
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| posted on 15/2/06 at 02:04 PM |
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Tried that trident but the flare block still bowed when using kunifer and allowed it to slip.
Cheers,
Bob
I used to be a Werewolf but I'm alright nowwoooooooooooooo
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Peteff
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| posted on 15/2/06 at 03:33 PM |
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My machine Mart cheapie does kunifer, steel or copper. I used it to do the pipes for my car and have made several for mates and relatives. I did the
back axle pipes in kunifer for my van when it failed MOT last month. I haven't had any failures with it when following the instructions and the
flares look good. Use a pipe cutter and ream the ends out before you fit the die, tighten the wing nut nearest to the end you are using first and it
shouldn't slip through.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 15/2/06 at 06:34 PM |
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I've got a moprod and had it for 7 or 8 years at least. Not a lot of heavy use but a lot of borrowers use
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 15/2/06 at 07:19 PM |
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I have a sykes pickyernose one, for 15 years of heavy professional use and still as the day I got it, £100 well spend (ironically, they are still
£100!)
I have a bluepoint one which is for use on the car, but is barely useable, poor flares, awkward to use. It is very good on much learger bore pipes, I
did my 8mm id galvanised steel fuel pipes with it - excellent
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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dave r
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| posted on 15/2/06 at 08:59 PM |
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snap on
then when you break the die they swap it for nowt
had my set for over 20 years
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wilkingj
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| posted on 15/2/06 at 09:14 PM |
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I got the Sykes Pickavent one (Cam operated one).
Cost me £117. however, having done two Landrovers, and the viento (all complete sets), and odd pipes for the wifes Micra, and the boys Jago... It
owes me nothing now, and every pipe is now profit!.. It does an excellent job, and does not burr the pipe where its gripped. These burrs make it hard
to slide the nuts back over them, and just pi**es me off.
Glad I paid for my Sykes one. Worth it in the long run.
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 15/2/06 at 10:11 PM |
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Get a sykes one if you can afford it , even one of the old type screw operated tool will perform better than any of the cheaper options , be quicker
and form better flares. Second hand ones are sometimes available from S/H garage equipment specialists . Well worth looking for.
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chrsgrain
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| posted on 16/2/06 at 05:48 PM |
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Hi all,
thanks for the replies, a wealth of information! I would be interested in the Draper one Jos, but I really want to do some work on Saturday, so
getting it here would be tricky! I think I'll look to see if I can find one locally, but unfortunately can't justify £100 for one at the
moment
Chris
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