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Author: Subject: URGENT HELP - Clarke Welder how to change shroud
MikeR

posted on 28/3/06 at 06:02 PM Reply With Quote
URGENT HELP - Clarke Welder how to change shroud

Help,

Got a clarke 150TE

Can't find my manual, run out of wire, fed it through the feed mechanism. Its got to (i assume) the tip. Need to remove the shroud, remove the tip, feed some wire through, blah blah blah,

how the FECK do you remove the shroud? Tried turning it, pulling it, swearing at it.

HELP!!!!!!!!!

Want to weld tonight

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owelly

posted on 28/3/06 at 06:07 PM Reply With Quote
Turn the shroud in a left hand thread direction and pull at the same time.
The shroud is held by a curly wire springy thing and if you try to unscrew in the normal fashion, the spring expands and the shroud just spins around....
HTH





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MikeR

posted on 28/3/06 at 06:08 PM Reply With Quote


thanks ......... can go back to the garage now

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MikeR

posted on 28/3/06 at 06:15 PM Reply With Quote
Nope.........

turned it left hand from both sides, pushed and pulled

just turns, no feeling as is there is a thread to catch

any other ideas?

(don't anyone dare say its badgered!) i've got wooden 30mm spacers holding my engine in the perfect position and i want to weld mounts !!!!!!! i've got everything perfect)

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omega 24 v6

posted on 28/3/06 at 06:22 PM Reply With Quote
My 100Emk2 is a threaded shroud. Is it possible that touv'e screwed it on so far that it's pushed the rubber sleeve down the shaft. If so you could have passed by the threaded portion and are struggling to get it back off (hope you understood that) You could open up the handle of the gun and remove the grub screw that holds the swan neck on and remove it completely (sp) then remove the rubber cover and slide the shroud off that way.
All of this only applies if your torch is the same as mine. Good luck.

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MikeR

posted on 28/3/06 at 06:25 PM Reply With Quote
don't think thats the case but ........ i'll give it a go. thanks

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Mansfield

posted on 28/3/06 at 06:27 PM Reply With Quote
I think you will find the thread is a sort of round captive nut type affair. Mine does this - sometimes i will spin if its been put on too tight.

I normally exert a side ways load while undoing it as it helps the nut stay captive. Failing that maybe drill a little shallow hole where the nut is and slip a 'peg' in.

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MikeR

posted on 28/3/06 at 06:43 PM Reply With Quote
ok, so where is the nut ? how far in the shroud? from where ? is the ring indent a clue where to drill ?

cause it aint working.

If i turn it one way it will move backwards - it towards the gun a little - 3mm maybe as if its on a fine thread. once it gets all the way it just spins. If i turn the shroud the other way it will move the 3mm off the nozel but then gets 'stuck' and just spins.

if you had any idea how pished off i am

will try the side ways motion and report back. Would rather not go drilling the shoud as its the only 1 i've got at the moment.

[Edited on 28/3/06 by MikeR]

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omega 24 v6

posted on 28/3/06 at 06:48 PM Reply With Quote
Sounds like some spatter may have found it's way back into the shroud and shorted out against the tip. Then you touch the shroud against the workpeice and the threaded portion of the nozzle gets burnt/welded itself and damages the thread.
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MikeR

posted on 28/3/06 at 07:06 PM Reply With Quote
done it!


sprayed some anti splatter down as it seemed as is something was very fine but grating down there. Took a chance and with lots of pulling it slowly came off!

Only put it half on for now and a few more shrouds are getting bought. With my old Cebora i bought spare shrouds and never used them.

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Peteff

posted on 28/3/06 at 07:18 PM Reply With Quote
You're not just trying to remove the metal bit are you? Get some mole grips on the black plastic bit below the metal and undo it like a normal nut. The sprung ones are usually on industrial type euro torches.

[Edited on 28/3/06 by Peteff]





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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Mansfield

posted on 28/3/06 at 08:32 PM Reply With Quote
I reckon this is a fairly weak way of doing things, I suppose it stops you overtightening it and damaging the thread though. He says, looking for a reason.

When mine finally wont come off, I will put in a shallow hole (not into the torch thread) and drive it that way. Now you have yours off, you probably know what I mean now.

Sorry I missed your earlier questions - tea was ready.

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Triton

posted on 29/3/06 at 08:25 AM Reply With Quote
Should have kept the cebora matey.......mine is still going strong after 5yrs abuse and countless chassis and bike frames not too mention the odd curtain pole and chair for the missus.





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MikeR

posted on 29/3/06 at 09:36 AM Reply With Quote
it was a 100 amp job that i learned to weld on (as well as the night class).

It finally gave up the ghost and would only weld if you held down the transformer manually.

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