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jabbahutt

posted on 11/6/08 at 06:53 AM Reply With Quote
removing a sheared drill bit

morning all

well it had to happen sooner or later. Drilling a hole in a low chassis rail I mange to shear a 5mm drill bit level with the surface of the rail.
The hole needs enlarging to 7mm for it's final intended purpose but any tip for getting the bit out of knocking it into the rail where I'll stop it rattling round with some expanding foam or something similar

So tips please to accomplish either please

Thanks
Nigel






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Macbeast

posted on 11/6/08 at 07:12 AM Reply With Quote
I suppose I'd try a hammer and centre punch. How easy depends on how flat the broken end of the bit is.
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omega0684

posted on 11/6/08 at 07:19 AM Reply With Quote
get a pair of mole grips on it and turn anti - clockwise, saved me no end of times,

question - why didn't you just drill with 7mm bit in the first place?





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Macbeast

posted on 11/6/08 at 07:22 AM Reply With Quote
" get a pair of mole grips on it and turn anti - clockwise, saved me no end of times, "

How do you do that when it's broken off flush with the surface of the rail ?

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jabbahutt

posted on 11/6/08 at 07:27 AM Reply With Quote
would of drilled 7mm hole but was drilling through a panel and into the rail.
Then remove the panel with the 5mm hole in place and enlarge rail hole to 7mm

As above bit end is level with the rail so mole grips won't work.

Will try punching the end to see if I can get it into the rail and at least then I can drill the 7mm hole.

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Nigel






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MikeRJ

posted on 11/6/08 at 07:51 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by omega0684
question - why didn't you just drill with 7mm bit in the first place?


There's someone who hasn't served an apprenticeship

7mm is too large to start it's own hole, you should always drill a pilot of around 3-4mm if you want to place a hole accurately.

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hughpinder

posted on 11/6/08 at 08:08 AM Reply With Quote
I've managed to use a pair of pointed nose jewelers pliers gripping down the flutes before now.
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r1_pete

posted on 11/6/08 at 09:00 AM Reply With Quote
Put a blob of mig weld on the end and pull it out, just need to be carefull you strike the arc on the drill bit.






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Bluemoon

posted on 11/6/08 at 09:00 AM Reply With Quote
As Mike, you always drill a pilot big enough to fit the tip of the next bit into, else there is no cutting edge..

Not done an apprenticeship, but in practice for larger holes in thin tubes I have found going up in 2mm steps helps stop the hole wondering to much in thin material using a had held drill....

As to getting bit out you could try long nose pliers if you have small ones might just be able to wind it back..

Cheers

Dan

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jabbahutt

posted on 11/6/08 at 09:21 AM Reply With Quote
thanks for all the assistance, I'll try some and see how it goes.

Worse case it'll have to stay where it is.

Thanks again
Nigel






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pewe

posted on 11/6/08 at 11:00 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
knocking it into the rail where I'll stop it rattling round with some expanding foam or something similar

If you can hear a broken drill bit rattling round in the chassis rail when it's running I suspect you'll have hearing akin to a bat's radar!
Cheers, Pewe

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chris_smith

posted on 11/6/08 at 11:47 AM Reply With Quote
cant you drill from the opposite side and knock it back through??
dont know where abouts on the car is so not sure if it will be a cosmetic problem

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sucksqueezebangblow

posted on 11/6/08 at 03:48 PM Reply With Quote
The MIG trick may work. Failing that (assuming the rail is horizontal) you could knock it through, drill the hole out to 7mm and then use a magnet to extract the broken bit. Most tool places sell pen style pointers with small magnets on the end to get at dropped nuts etc.





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tks

posted on 11/6/08 at 03:52 PM Reply With Quote
how long is the drilled bit...

if its broken touching the oposide from the tube.. you won't be able to punch it in..
in fact i think it does..it has gone in like a screw...and broke because of the drill motor torque...

punching it back from the other side is best thing to do or to spot weld..

and gripturn it back..

Tks





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