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Gear Ratios ?
Volvorsport - 11/11/07 at 12:28 PM

are bike gear ratios like cars (obviously closer) ie they have a gear thats direct drive ie 1:1


Crazy Eddie - 11/11/07 at 01:56 PM

Have a look here might have info you need: Gearing

Cheers
Eddie


ChrisGamlin - 11/11/07 at 02:10 PM

Bikes engines dont generally get near a 1:1 ratio in relation to engine RPM and output shaft rpm, because they have a reduction ratio between the crank and the clutch, usually around 1.5:1 - 1.7:1.

Top gear itself is often around the 1:1 mark though in relation to the clutch RPM, which would obviously be ~ 1.5:1 if compared to the crank RPM.

Chris

[Edited on 11/11/07 by ChrisGamlin]


Bob C - 11/11/07 at 03:40 PM

also I think in general the output is effectively on the layshaft, so every ratio goes through 2 sets of cogs - 1) primary reduction and 2) selected gear


Volvorsport - 11/11/07 at 04:18 PM

so the output shaft spins faster than the engine , hmm that could work , teh othe rway round might scupper plans .


ChrisGamlin - 11/11/07 at 07:45 PM

Nope the other way around, the crank spins faster than the output shaft.


Peteff - 11/11/07 at 08:02 PM

If the engine is spinning at 11,500rpm a 1:1 gear would give you top speed of about 240mph wouldn't it. That would be some car


Volvorsport - 12/11/07 at 11:08 AM

hmm i see , with a diff and small tyres , might be a bit less than 240mph !

im try to get this in front of some CVT belts , if i could id do away with the bike gearbox altogether , thats why i looked at BMW engines , but i dont think its gonna be possible .

might just have to junk the CVT bit .




[Edited on 12/11/07 by Volvorsport]


chrisf - 12/11/07 at 01:36 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Volvorsport
... thats why i looked at BMW engines , but i dont think its gonna be possible .

might just have to junk the CVT bit .

[Edited on 12/11/07 by Volvorsport]


Not so. Have a look at the Yamaha RX-1. It is a snowmobile engine that is based on the R1 bike engine. It has slightly less horsepower than the bike engine, but also has the CVT standard. Were i brave enough or hand the machining tools at my disposal, I would have a go at a CVT car myself. Getting that CVT right would be tricky though.

--Chris


[Edited on 12/11/07 by chrisf]