Received my confirmation appointment yesterday from the local office and on the form is a reminder to bring an installer proof of immobiliser installation... Do they have a clue what we do? Pay someone to fit something that we can do ourselves.... Anyway... I am sure I am not alone here.. I have fitted the immobiliser myself so how have people go over this in the past.. The immobiliser is one of the forms of security I have...

FIA switch....
Ignition Key...
Immobiliser....

thoughts?

Thanks
Dave B

Mine has the built in 'ford' immobiliser (uses the original Sierra key) but I had no proof it was there. Tester never asked.

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Originally posted by Dave Bailey
Received my confirmation appointment yesterday from the local office and on the form is a reminder to bring an installer proof of immobiliser installation... Do they have a clue what we do? Pay someone to fit something that we can do ourselves.... Anyway... I am sure I am not alone here.. I have fitted the immobiliser myself so how have people go over this in the past.. The immobiliser is one of the forms of security I have...

FIA switch....
Ignition Key...
Immobiliser....

thoughts?

Thanks
Dave B

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Is this an Iva or Dvla appointment?

If its the Dvla then just go along with it, any queries will just slow things down. Get creative on Word and knock up an installation receipt.

Agreed though they shouldn't be asking for it. I just had to demonstrate mine working at IVA.

Manual says:

Check, in addition to the normal “ignition” switch, that the vehicle is
permanently fitted with an anti-theft device or an electronic immobiliser that
can be activated to prevent the vehicle being driven or moved under its
own power.

A mechanical anti-theft device could be a steering lock or transmission
lock. An electronic immobiliser can be activated by the ignition key (so
would not be obvious) or could be separate - activated by a little fob type
device

A manually operated battery master switch or a removable steering wheel
would not be considered to be an anti theft device.

1. A vehicle MUST be fitted with either a mechanical anti – theft
device or an electronic immobiliser

2. If fitted to the Vehicle, an anti – theft device
a. must be operational
b. must not operate on any part of the braking system

3. If it incorporates a mechanical part that acts upon a system used to
control the vehicle
a. It must Deactivate before the engine can be started
b. It must be deactivated while the engine is running
c. It must have a actuation which is a distinct and separate
function from that of stopping the engine

Where the vehicle has no mechanical anti - theft device fitted:

4. An electronic immobiliser must be fitted



Therefore, if you have a working steering lock you're OK.

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Originally posted by iank
IIRC they removed the requirement for a professional install from the IVA requirements a while back. Check the latest manual and query.

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Mine failed iva last week because no evidence to back up Yamaha key but the tester at Beverly was being tested himself
It was obvious it was a chip key and I think he would have let it go if it hadn’t been for the bloke overseeing him

If that was me I would have appealed as the manual is clear, its only alarms that require certification.

Thanks guys... I will let you know how I get on....

Dave B

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Originally posted by loggyboy
If that was me I would have appealed as the manual is clear, its only alarms that require certification.

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Its easy enough to remove the internals from a keyfob, or remove the battery.

However.....

For an imobiliser to be counted for an Insurance Discount, it will need a VSIB installers certificate.

I got a Sterling Cat 2 imobiliser off Ebay, I spoke to a friendly fitter, and fitted it within the guldlines of what he had said.
Fortunately my local Car alarm place raced a MK Indy, so were very sympathetic.
They quizzed me as to the installation that I had done, looked all over the car, and at the wiring (all hidden in the loom and covered)
and the main unit burried in the tunnel where its a real pain to get at now the car is built.

They signed it off and charged me £10 (for a a few pints)

I recon its worth doing it properly, as it is one less problem in the event of an Insurance Claim.
Also makes it a little harde for someone to steal your pride and joy.

Just my 2d's worth.

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Originally posted by wilkingj
However.....

For an imobiliser to be counted for an Insurance Discount, it will need a VSIB installers certificate.

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Originally posted by sdh2903

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Originally posted by loggyboy
If that was me I would have appealed as the manual is clear, its only alarms that require certification.

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But it does say it has to be working. How do you prove to the tester a chip key is working? My transponder fob was easy to prove take it off the key and try to start the car. The tester was happy with this. Unless you have a spare key with no chip then your a bit stumped.

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I cant really see why you would fail then??

Was it the only fail point? if it was I would be appealing the decision.

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Originally posted by sdh2903
I cant really see why you would fail then??

Was it the only fail point? if it was I would be appealing the decision.

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