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Hellfire - 5/1/11 at 07:12 PM

If I have an IP address, for example 11.222.333.44 does anyone know which set of numbers identifies the ISP?

Phil


britishtrident - 5/1/11 at 07:21 PM

They are issued in batches ---- the numbers themselves don't have significance.

To find out the ISP holding a particular number do a "Who is" IP look up search this will give details of the registrant.

http://ip-lookup.net/index.php


[Edited on 5/1/11 by britishtrident]


mookaloid - 5/1/11 at 07:28 PM

being really picky - yes I know

You can't have an IP address with 333 as one of the numbers as the biggest number you can have is 255


Hellfire - 5/1/11 at 07:45 PM

quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
They are issued in batches ---- the numbers themselves don't have significance.

To find out the ISP holding a particular number do a "Who is" IP look up search this will give details of the registrant.

http://ip-lookup.net/index.php


[Edited on 5/1/11 by britishtrident]


Thats really useful, thankyou.

My next question is;

Can I find a history/log of IP numbers that have been assigned to my router over the last thirty days or so?

Phil


Ninehigh - 5/1/11 at 07:53 PM

Iirc those would be 255.0.0.1/2/3 and so on.

I may be thinking of something else though...


mookaloid - 5/1/11 at 07:58 PM

It's unlikely that you will get this information from your router but have a poke about in the web interface to see if there is a log of the connections,

however your ISP might hold it. Whether they will release the information to you is another matter......


britishtrident - 5/1/11 at 09:04 PM

Unless your router has been off for long periods it is likely it will have retained its lease on the ip address it is currently using.

Also increasingly ISP are assigning static IP to broadband lines even if they don't tell the users as with everybody using routers whats the point of trying to save pennies on blocks of IP addresses.


Hellfire - 5/1/11 at 09:13 PM

My router is turned off every night and remains off for about 19 hours. I don't generally keep a log of the IP addresses that my router is assigned but I know it has changed since the last time I looked about a week ago.

Looks like I'll have to contact my ISP if I want the history/log......

Phil


hobbsy - 5/1/11 at 09:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid
being really picky - yes I know

You can't have an IP address with 333 as one of the numbers as the biggest number you can have is 255


It's 254 surely


fossett - 5/1/11 at 10:20 PM

quote:
Originally posted by hobbsy
quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid
being really picky - yes I know

You can't have an IP address with 333 as one of the numbers as the biggest number you can have is 255


It's 254 surely


Nope deffo 255 - 8 bits = 256 different states - 0-255



[Edited on 5/1/11 by fossett]


hobbsy - 5/1/11 at 10:25 PM

We are talking about IP addresses for devices though - 255 is a broadcast address never assigned to devices.

Why am I getting sucked into a discussion about IP addresses on a car forum!


Daddylonglegs - 5/1/11 at 10:48 PM

You know it had to happen , if it wasn't you it would have been me or someone else. So thank you for saving me lol!


scudderfish - 6/1/11 at 07:07 AM

Salute hobbsy for diving on the grenade of IP addressing geekery


mookaloid - 6/1/11 at 08:33 AM

quote:
Originally posted by hobbsy
We are talking about IP addresses for devices though - 255 is a broadcast address never assigned to devices.

Why am I getting sucked into a discussion about IP addresses on a car forum!


It seems I'm not the only really picky person here


ironside - 6/1/11 at 04:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid
quote:
Originally posted by hobbsy
We are talking about IP addresses for devices though - 255 is a broadcast address never assigned to devices.

Why am I getting sucked into a discussion about IP addresses on a car forum!


It seems I'm not the only really picky person here


I can be pickier - 255 is perfectly valid. 10.44.3.255 is perfectly valid if your subnet mask is 255.255.0.0 for example. Only the first and last addresses in a subnet are never assigned to devices not the first and last numbers in the range 0 to 255.


mookaloid - 6/1/11 at 04:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ironside
quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid
quote:
Originally posted by hobbsy
We are talking about IP addresses for devices though - 255 is a broadcast address never assigned to devices.

Why am I getting sucked into a discussion about IP addresses on a car forum!


It seems I'm not the only really picky person here


I can be pickier - 255 is perfectly valid. 10.44.3.255 is perfectly valid if your subnet mask is 255.255.0.0 for example. Only the first and last addresses in a subnet are never assigned to devices not the first and last numbers in the range 0 to 255.


In terms of pickyness I think you win the prize - and you are of course correct


loggyboy - 6/1/11 at 04:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
My router is turned off every night and remains off for about 19 hours. I don't generally keep a log of the IP addresses that my router is assigned but I know it has changed since the last time I looked about a week ago.

Looks like I'll have to contact my ISP if I want the history/log......

Phil


Maybe one of the admins/mods could help you, when I have been admin/mod on various forums the IP the poster was using was displayed next to the thread title.

As you post here quite reguarly that may give a fairly comprehensive list.


Hellfire - 10/1/11 at 07:15 PM

I've had a response from my ISP stating the following;

...we use DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol) method to assign the IP addresses to our customers which means that the IP addresses are assigned randomly whenever a new connection is made to the internet.

Due to this fact, we are unable to provide you with the history of IP addresses assigned to you for the last 30 days


I suspect this isn't true. Surely they should know, or at least be able to find my IP history....... Are they trying to fob me off, or could it be that they genuinely don't log the history?

Phil


McLannahan - 10/1/11 at 07:19 PM

Nah rubbishio! I bet if you'd be sharing some files illegally they'd have an excellent log of your IP and online activity.

It's loads of work and loads of logs for them to go through. If there was a legal reason to do it or money in it for them....

quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
I've had a response from my ISP stating the following;

...we use DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol) method to assign the IP addresses to our customers which means that the IP addresses are assigned randomly whenever a new connection is made to the internet.

Due to this fact, we are unable to provide you with the history of IP addresses assigned to you for the last 30 days


I suspect this isn't true. Surely they should know, or at least be able to find my IP history....... Are they trying to fob me off, or could it be that they genuinely don't log the history?

Phil


Ninehigh - 10/1/11 at 07:50 PM

Heh doubt it 3 haven't come up with our contract yet we've only given them 28 days, 8 months ago

Also imagine how many times a router could change address in a day, and how many thousand they have running...