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Jumpy Guy - 12/9/06 at 03:41 PM

Finally looking to develop a website, which will include some business stuff, and some car stuff too...

usual questions, i suppose-

which package is best to develop a site on?
where do i host it? (ideally cheaply....or even better free!! )

all opinions welcome!!


ecosse - 12/9/06 at 03:57 PM

I use 1and1, decent prices and good service

Cheers

Alex


dave1888 - 12/9/06 at 04:07 PM

I use 1and1 the only thing is i had problems with them emailing me to tell me my account was frozen, unfortunetly they emailed the address they froze then threatened me with court action. It was only after numerous calls to there non understanding staff in bangladesh and paying some half arsed debt collector in the uk that i managed to get it all sorted. In the end it cost me about £65 extra for a phish website that should have cost £60 a year. Why not try Netrino.


thunderace - 12/9/06 at 04:12 PM

i get free webspace with blueyonder.
dont know how big it is but have stuck a 7 min video on it so far.

http://www.wetbike.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/


russbost - 12/9/06 at 04:54 PM

I found that any "free" sites contained catches such as built in advertising/banners/popups etc.
I use Affordable Multimedia (afmu.com) it cost aroud £35 for 2 years including the web name. Had no major problems, although aol refused to allow the site to load, but I believe that's fixed now & very little downtime. If you want much more space than I've used (you can get an idea by looking at my site www.furorecars.co.uk) then you'd need to pay a bit more.


nicksertis - 12/9/06 at 05:07 PM

If you're looking for a larger hosting company for business hosting, I would suggest webfusion (www.webfusion.co.uk). They offer both Linux and Windows hosting depending on what you prefer, at pretty good prices I think.

ATB,
Nick


chockymonster - 12/9/06 at 05:14 PM

For cheap, no frills hosting try http://www.nearlyfreespeech.net
I've had 3 sites registered with them for nearly 5 years now. So far the 3 together have cost me $15 to pay into my account with them. I still have $9 of hosting credit left

$6 for 3 sites is pretty good going!


ecosse - 12/9/06 at 06:18 PM

quote:
Originally posted by dave1888
I use 1and1 the only thing is i had problems with them emailing me to tell me my account was frozen, unfortunetly they emailed the address they froze then threatened me with court action. It was only after numerous calls to there non understanding staff in bangladesh and paying some half arsed debt collector in the uk that i managed to get it all sorted. In the end it cost me about £65 extra for a phish website that should have cost £60 a year. Why not try Netrino.


I had the exact same problem, although not with the resolution of it.
but to cut a long story short they appologised and re-activated my account with no charges.
Its been fine ever since (2yrs) now, but certainly something to be aware of as it has obviously happened to others!
Cheers
Alex


joneh - 12/9/06 at 08:03 PM

I use Dreamweaver for the pretty bits and Edit plus for any css/php/sql/java etc.

I'm transfering to http://www.synergyworks.co.uk when my current crappy f2s hosting runs out.


Werner Van Loock - 12/9/06 at 08:29 PM

I'm running clubstylus on one.com

Very reliable hosting with 1GB space and mysql database, pop/smtp email etc...

Can't complain about them.

For building websites I use homesite, don't know if it's still sold by adobe.

[Edited on 12/9/06 by Werner Van Loock]


russbost - 13/9/06 at 07:16 AM

One word of warning, if you use something like Dreamweaver or Frontpage to create the site it won't be recognised by search engines - this was how I did my first 2 sites. The current site (which has links to the old ones) was rewritten professionally into correct code in order that the search engines will find you. Might be quite important if you need people to find your site rather than being directed to it.


martyn_16v - 13/9/06 at 08:03 AM

I wouldn't even consider free hosting for a business web site, 99% of the free stuff is good for kiddies personal pages (in horrifying colours with flashing text and background music, you know the type) but nothing more. If you want to project a good professional image then you need a site with your own domain name that is free of ads, and actually works most of the time. Asmallorange do good cheap hosting packages, and 123reg.com for the domain names.

Don't know about Dreamweaver but i'd certainly stick clear of trying to make a site with Frontpage or god forbid MS Word, the code will be 'orrible and it probably will look damn strange to people not using Internet Explorer. Real men use VIM, but then 'real men' also spend far too much time in front of a screen and know very little of real women


nicksertis - 13/9/06 at 10:19 AM

Finally someone else appreciates the power of VIM! Please tell me that you consider Elm the best email client in the world?? ;o)


chockymonster - 13/9/06 at 10:30 AM

quote:
Originally posted by russbost
One word of warning, if you use something like Dreamweaver or Frontpage to create the site it won't be recognised by search engines - this was how I did my first 2 sites.


Sorry, but that's rubbish.
I've done many a site in dreamweaver (avoid Fpage like the plague) and have never had an issue with search engine placement. It's all about keyword density and knowing how to get sites registered correctly.


chockymonster - 13/9/06 at 10:35 AM

quote:
Originally posted by nicksertis
Please tell me that you consider Elm the best email client in the world?? ;o)

Ah, a true sadist
No matter how many times I use nano I still try and use Vim commands.


iank - 13/9/06 at 11:00 AM

I'll see your vim and elm and raise you tin (newsreader) and lynx (web browser).

If we find an emacs geek we can have a proper geek flame war


chockymonster - 13/9/06 at 11:03 AM

quote:
Originally posted by iank
If we find an emacs geek we can have a proper geek flame war

Sorry, I'm too busy configuring AIX LPARs to bother with geeky flame wars about mail clients and BA text editors


martyn_16v - 14/9/06 at 07:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by nicksertis
Finally someone else appreciates the power of VIM! Please tell me that you consider Elm the best email client in the world?? ;o)



Ahh no, i'm still a slave to M$ Outlook, it talks to all of my toys


stevebubs - 14/9/06 at 07:38 PM

I've recently move cantcatchme.net to godaddy.com and their prices / packages are pretty attractive

Main page isn't up yet but I've the gallery running at gallery.cantcatchme.net

Full web interface for DNS, webspace, database and hosted application management.

Gallery function was one of their out of the box apps - just tick the application and they install it.


JackNco - 17/9/06 at 12:52 AM

You have a U2U message

John