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johhny5 - 20/11/07 at 10:07 PM

Hi Chaps,
A friend of mine has a car company and therefore has trade plates.
Can i put these on my kit car and legally take it for a spin on the road, only for testing.
This is before the SVA test
??


tegwin - 20/11/07 at 10:14 PM

As far as I understand it...No you cant!


The trade plates are for road tax reasons only, they do not magically give your car an MOT thus your insurance is void...

Drive with or without the trade plates on your car and its still naughty... Sorry


blakep82 - 20/11/07 at 10:15 PM

i would say no. can't think of any reason why though... surely trade plates are only intended to be used if the car is actually going somewhere (like when you can only drive a car to mot if its booked in for one, and the car has not tax or mot)

reckon your mate would get in a whole lot of bohter if he was knowing letting you use the plates for this too.

like i say though, just an assumption


johhny5 - 20/11/07 at 10:18 PM

Thanks guys,
its always worth asking


zxrlocost - 20/11/07 at 10:38 PM

sorry to throw a spanner in the works

but my insurance states can drive any car with a chassis number for business social domestic use to setup and test any car in my posession

how do I setup certain things without testing the car prior to SVA otherwise

afterall its not as if I havent put the effort in to pay the insurance

[Edited on 20/11/07 by zxrlocost]

[Edited on 20/11/07 by zxrlocost]


PhilCross66 - 20/11/07 at 11:27 PM

I've been taken out by MK in an unregistered Indy on trade plates.
The local car dealers near me moves brand new cars all over on trade plates and these are all unregistered.


MikeR - 21/11/07 at 09:29 AM

the dealers cars are all 'legal' cars. Ie have passed type approval. kit cars that haven't passed SVA would, i expect, be illegal.


Paul TigerB6 - 21/11/07 at 09:42 AM

quote:
Originally posted by zxrlocost


but my insurance states can drive any car with a chassis number for business social domestic use to setup and test any car in my posession




Is this a commercial car insurance policy though Chris?? I would think that is where you will find the difference is and that general insurance policies dont contain the wording that your policy does. Also, you are using your own trade plates for a legitimate business purpose with valid insurance cover. I'd say Johhny5 (and his mate in the trade) would have a fair bit of explaining to do if stopped and possibly prosecutions.

Not worth the risk IMHO. Lots of people manage without testing (or book a cheap track day)


tks - 21/11/07 at 11:39 AM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
the dealers cars are all 'legal' cars. Ie have passed type approval. kit cars that haven't passed SVA would, i expect, be illegal.


this says everything...

if it hasn't any type of aproval i'm quite sure only a manufacture could obtain some kind of exeption for it, but not anyone else.

Tks


britishtrident - 21/11/07 at 12:03 PM

Vehicles on trade plates are covered by the owner of the trade plates traders insurance policy. ie He can test drive your vehicle in his proffesional capacity checking its fitness for SVA, but you can't use them on your own vehicle even if he magically employs you.

Trade plate laws are a lot more sensible than the used to be but are still quite strict


The MOT dosen't come into it as a home built is classed for MOT purposes as a new vehicle won't require MOT until it is due.

[Edited on 21/11/07 by britishtrident]


speedyxjs - 21/11/07 at 03:34 PM

Forget the trade plates. If you want to take the car for a test drive, get you freindly garage to book you an MOT in the knowledge that it's not going to have one, take the car for a test drive. If you get stopped, tell plod that you are taking the car to be MOT'd. Apparently you dont need tax to drive to MOT


MikeRJ - 21/11/07 at 11:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
Forget the trade plates. If you want to take the car for a test drive, get you freindly garage to book you an MOT in the knowledge that it's not going to have one, take the car for a test drive. If you get stopped, tell plod that you are taking the car to be MOT'd. Apparently you dont need tax to drive to MOT


And it also has to be a pre-booked MOT within a reasonable distance, i.e. no booking an MOT 200 miles away


speedyxjs - 22/11/07 at 07:24 AM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
Forget the trade plates. If you want to take the car for a test drive, get you freindly garage to book you an MOT in the knowledge that it's not going to have one, take the car for a test drive. If you get stopped, tell plod that you are taking the car to be MOT'd. Apparently you dont need tax to drive to MOT


And it also has to be a pre-booked MOT within a reasonable distance, i.e. no booking an MOT 200 miles away


Yeah but there is nothing to say that you cant travel 200 miles round town to get there