Mr Whippy
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| posted on 19/11/09 at 03:11 PM |
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Changing from Windows Vista to XP
Hi, new lappy has Vista which is running pretty much none of my existing programs, which is a shame as Vista looks rather nice  did try using the
older version emulator option but it still don’t run them and I want to use my flight sim
Where is the best place to get XP for little or nothing (nothing being the preferred option there  )
Also how would I go about it? Not got anything on the machine that I’m too worried about losing as I have the applications on another machine but am
worried about the machine never starting up again after I’ve tried to install it. As I’ve never had to do this so help would be appreciated  Would I
lose things like the drivers for the screen or stuff like that?!
Don’t get too technical as I’ll get totally lost, imagine you were explaining it to a caffeine deprived chimp
Thank you 
[Edited on 19/11/09 by Mr Whippy]
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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tegwin
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| posted on 19/11/09 at 03:22 PM |
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Ooohh ooohh.... aaghhh aghh.... ooooooh..ooooh.........oooohh......aghhhh (beating fists frantically against chest!)
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Would the last person who leaves the country please switch off the lights and close the door!
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 19/11/09 at 03:28 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by tegwin
Ooohh ooohh.... aaghhh aghh.... ooooooh..ooooh.........oooohh......aghhhh (beating fists frantically against chest!)
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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flak monkey
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| posted on 19/11/09 at 03:38 PM |
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Get an XP installation disc. Put it in CD drive.
Reboot
Enter bios (usally del or F2)
Change first boot device to cd (usually in boot options or advanced options)
The let it boot and follow the instructions
When given the choice of where to install the OS choose the C:\ partition and it will ask you if you want to format. Tell it yes and let it do its
magic.
When the PC reboots change the boot device back or you will go in circles 
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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Bob C
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| posted on 19/11/09 at 03:38 PM |
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To stay legal & register xp properly you'll need a proper license key (one that no-one else is using). Maybe you can get one by pulling the
windows sticker off a scrapped PC - they're in bins all over the place these days - maybe your local dump would look the other way while you
pulled a sticker off....
Then you have the problem that xp install discs don't know about SATA drives that new PCs have... I've got an install disc that puts the
SATA drivers in (had to make it myself, does 'slipstreaming' I think they call it). If it all starts to look too hard U2U me & send me
an SAE & I'll post you the install disc.
I'm no expert - the above worked for me a few weeks ago... ;^)
Bob
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flak monkey
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| posted on 19/11/09 at 03:41 PM |
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XP handles SATA no problem as long as its an SP1 or higher disc.
I have never had an issue formatting and installing direct to a sata drive using either XP home or XP pro.
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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Bob C
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| posted on 19/11/09 at 03:46 PM |
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tee hee - mr whippy, perhaps you'll remind flak about that assertion when you've stopped cursing..... ;^)
Strange they stopped putting the drivers in on an SP3 install.....
I did exactly what mr w is trying just a couple of weeks ago, & it involved a lot of swear words...
[Edited on 19/11/09 by Bob C]
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flak monkey
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| posted on 19/11/09 at 04:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Bob C
tee hee - mr whippy, perhaps you'll remind flak about that assertion when you've stopped cursing..... ;^)
Strange they stopped putting the drivers in on an SP3 install.....
I did exactly what mr w is trying just a couple of weeks ago, & it involved a lot of swear words...
My XP SP3 install disc works fine direct to SATA as well.
Must be something unusual in your hardware. And I have built a fair few PC's in my time
I can only speak from my experience, but I have never come across a system with any version of XP higher than SP1 that needs drivers to recognise SATA
drives.
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 19/11/09 at 05:14 PM |
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I had problems installing XP SP3 onto my previous PC which had a SATA interface (Intel 945GC chipset). In the end I had to use NLite to slipstream
the required SATA drivers onto the CD in the end.
My new PC, also with an Intel chipset, didn't need this however. If you look on Google this is a very common issue.
[Edited on 19/11/09 by MikeRJ]
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Canada EH!
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| posted on 19/11/09 at 06:58 PM |
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MR Whippy, put snow skis on your planes and you won't need the flight sim, couple of feet of snow saves a lot of broken R/C airplanes.
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IanBrace
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| posted on 19/11/09 at 07:33 PM |
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If you Google Win XP there's a company selling legal new xp pro discs and licence for £35 and it was here the next day! My biggest problem was
getting all the drivers. Again I bought a prog (£15) which found them for me and downloaded them rather than trying to find them manually. (after
about 8 hrs trying to find em!).
So for a total of £50 it was all sorted and legal... plus PC World said it wasn't possible.. makes it even more fun!
If you need name of supplier and program for drivers let me know and I'll dig them out..
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Bob C
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| posted on 20/11/09 at 12:31 PM |
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ah yes - that could explain mine & flak's different experience, mine was AMD chipset...
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Schrodinger
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| posted on 23/11/09 at 10:20 AM |
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I would make sure that you can get allof the drivers you need for your machine before you start withn the rebuild.
Keith
Aviemore
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