David Jenkins
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| posted on 21/4/05 at 03:12 PM |
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Don't be put off by the 'orrible colour scheme when you start up Ubuntu - it's all configurable!
(Assorted shades of brown...)
David
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phelpsa
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| posted on 21/4/05 at 03:29 PM |
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Good, although I hope I wont have to look at it to often!
Adam
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phelpsa
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| posted on 21/4/05 at 05:18 PM |
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Ok, im downloading SimplyMepis 2004, is this the right one?? And its downloading at nearly 200kb/s!!
Adam
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Peteff
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| posted on 21/4/05 at 06:24 PM |
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I've just burnt the Mepis iso to cd and I'll have a look at it this weekend, probably Sunday. 685 meg, I used freshdownload and did it in
3 separate sessions when we weren't doing anything else so it wasn't too bad. I've just looked at the file still on my desktop and
it says Simplymepis 3.3. iso. It looks alright on the cd, just had a read at the folders.
[Edited on 21/4/05 by Peteff]
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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phelpsa
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| posted on 21/4/05 at 06:40 PM |
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There was 3.3 aswell as 2003 and 2004 here: ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/metalab/distributions/mepis/released/
So i suppose I downloaded the right one.
Adam
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britishtrident
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| posted on 21/4/05 at 06:54 PM |
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I have a pile of official Unbuntu Hoary hedge hog ! cds if you want one but it is really a bit basic, While Mepis is pretty similar as both are
Debian based but Mepis has had a bit more development time put into getting all the bits to work together.
In a year or so I think Ubuntu will be the best Linux by a country mile.
For burning bootable Linux Cds on Windows I use "Burnatonce" as Nero can be very picky about file extension when burning bootable Cds.
Burnatonce is much simpler to use just a single click http://www.burnatonce.com/
[Edited on 21/4/05 by britishtrident]
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phelpsa
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| posted on 21/4/05 at 07:09 PM |
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iv got XP so I can just copy and paste it onto the CD.
Adam
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britishtrident
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| posted on 22/4/05 at 06:46 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by phelpsa
iv got XP so I can just copy and paste it onto the CD.
Adam
I am not an Xp fan but will that not just copy the ISO image file to the cdr rather than burn the image as seperate files with a boot sector..
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Noodle
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| posted on 22/4/05 at 08:17 AM |
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I'm surprised that noone's mentioned Fedora It's Redhat's community version. I've
used it a number of times and administer a commercial webserver for a small hosting company. I've used Mandrake 9.2 and 10 and they were fine
too, but I preferred Fedora. I've recently begun experimenting with a Debian box.
I've an email server running here at home that runs Fedora with Apache, MySQL, PostGreSQL, PHP, sendmail etc. It runs 24x7 in my garage and also
enables me to check my email remotely over the web (via SquirrelMail). Also, any computer in the house that connects can see the same email (i.e. the
emails are not stored in Outlook Express on one machine) and can be viewed over Linux/Windows/Outlook/Thunderbird/KMail whatever.
All of these distributions have been downloaded for zilch, usually over BitTorrent. The free distributions prefer this method of distribution as it
saves them expensive bandwidth. When you've a 1MB link, BitTorrent makes these downloads rip. Most impressive.
Fedora uses the anaconda graphical installer which is quite nice if you've been brought up on Windows.
Cheers,
Neil.
Your sort make me sick
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Peteff
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| posted on 22/4/05 at 08:19 AM |
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I think you'll need to create an iso cd as BT says Adam. Nero does it easily enough, you just have to identify the file as an Image file in the
file types drop down menu
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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phelpsa
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| posted on 22/4/05 at 08:53 AM |
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Ok, i have installed burnatonce, and written it to the disc, and in the weekend I will get the old PC down from the Attic! Thanks for all your advice,
I never new Pete could be so helpful
Adam
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 22/4/05 at 03:55 PM |
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Hi
Mangogroove asked me about this earlier and gave me his logon to answer things.
1. I have Mandrake 10.1 Powerpack on DVD. I can make a copy or two and MG will take care of the postage.
2. Also have SuSE 9.3 on CD's, anyone interested?
3. Agree about Debian but Deb itself is a bit of a pig to install and the variants all run an X server. Not something I'd recommend on a
server.
4. Personally, I've used Clarkconnect for about 4 1/2 years as a Gateway and never had any problems.
Let MG know if you need anything.
Sandy (aka The Penguinista)
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phelpsa
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| posted on 22/4/05 at 04:13 PM |
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Unfortunately the machine I want to install it on doesnt have a DVD drive, but what is SUSE like??
Adam
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 22/4/05 at 08:27 PM |
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The cheapest place to get Mandrake 10.1?
SuSE is to some extent a bit like Redhat/Fedora. A big complete package. I was giving it a try on the laptop but it still has problems (like many
distributions) with a lot of wireless cards (802.11g ones anyway for the techies).
It has good hardware detection and a great management system (YaST) which works via the command line as well as via a GUI. Great if you want to SSH
in.
I've thought about setting up a mail server myself a couple of times but always end up saying "let someone else take care of all the
crap". Why bother with all the DNS c*** when other people (who are better at it) can do it for us? There's always the fact tht not al
ISP's wil allow you to run a mail server as well.
Most ISP's offer a Webmail system so you can access it anywhere. There's always Gmail, Yahoo etc as well.
Personal webserver? Yeah
As long as you have broadband go for it.
If you are looking at a Firewall/Gateway server I would suggest looking at Clarkconnect or perhaps SME Server.
I have used Clarkconnect for a while now and find it easy to use and manage. You don't need to be a *nix guru and it's pretty mature and
stable. It has Apache/MySQL/PHP/Python/Perl/Squid/Snort/ProFTPD. In other words most of what you need. If you decide to go own the mail server route
it covers that as well. Postfix/IMAP and Squirrelmail.
Any enquiries to MG.
Me I'm off to Barcelona for 4 days. I'll reply to anything when I get back
Sandy
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phelpsa
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| posted on 22/4/05 at 08:39 PM |
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I am seriously confused as to which to go for Clarkconnect looks good aswell.
Adam
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Noodle
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| posted on 23/4/05 at 10:43 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop
SuSE is to some extent a bit like Redhat/Fedora. A big complete package. I was giving it a try on the laptop but it still has problems (like many
distributions) with a lot of wireless cards (802.11g ones anyway for the techies).
Most ISP's offer a Webmail system so you can access it anywhere. There's always Gmail, Yahoo etc as well.
Bl00dy wireless on my Fedora Core 3 laptop does my fruit. Couldn't do it FC2 or FC3. If you find out how to do it - let me know! (802.11g
too)
My ISP offers webmail but they can't pull in all my accounts to one box, plus they have storage limits - I've 45GB of mail on this server!
Standard server includes SpamAssasin too.
Cheers,
Neil
Your sort make me sick
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britishtrident
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| posted on 23/4/05 at 11:34 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Noodle
quote:
Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop
SuSE is to some extent a bit like Redhat/Fedora. A big complete package. I was giving it a try on the laptop but it still has problems (like many
distributions) with a lot of wireless cards (802.11g ones anyway for the techies).
Most ISP's offer a Webmail system so you can access it anywhere. There's always Gmail, Yahoo etc as well.
Bl00dy wireless on my Fedora Core 3 laptop does my fruit. Couldn't do it FC2 or FC3. If you find out how to do it - let me know! (802.11g
too)
My ISP offers webmail but they can't pull in all my accounts to one box, plus they have storage limits - I've 45GB of mail on this server!
Standard server includes SpamAssasin too.
Cheers,
Neil
For wireless the best distro is a hard disk install of Kanotix -- it uses harware detection and support that is a much improved version of of
Knoppix's and is optimised for a Hd install.
The first distro I tried was SUSe it was so bad it almost but me off Linux, Mandrake 9.1 was a lot better but very slow and any atempt to install
anything that was not in the original cd would result in dependancy problems.
Red Hat/Fedora runs a lot quicker than Mandrake I liked FC1 a lot although it had a few glitches. FC2 introducd an awful lot of problems without
fixing the ones FC1 had, the fact that SMB(ie windows) networking didn't work properly in FC2 was a deal breaker for me and pushed me into
trying other distros. I run Yoper on one PC for its fantastic performance but its development has run out of steam as the developer
"Yoper" is devoting much of his time to his brand new baby. My other non Windows PCs I have tried various Debian variants all of
which have been very very good --- the best being Kanotix, PcLinuxOS, Munjoy, Unbuntu and now Mepis 3.3 which is the most completly configured
distro I have seen.
[Edited on 23/4/05 by britishtrident]
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