Marcus
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| posted on 28/12/05 at 12:07 PM |
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Help needed with Wireless internet
Hi all,
I'm at my wits end with this PC thing.
I'm not a complete numpty with computers, but this problem has had me going for weeks!
Ok, I've got a desktop running XP Pro SP2, a laptop running XP Home SP2, a Dell Axim with Wifi, all connected with a Linksys router.
Internet connection is fine with desktop, with USB modem (wanadoo broadband - Speedtouch 330).
I can connect to network with laptop and see all shared files, so the wireless bit is working. I can also ping the entire network from any device with
no reported problems, it's just the internet thing 
I'm using DHCP, WPA-PSK with TKIP encryption on both PCs. I've been to microsoft site - no help there, used network diagnosis tools on XP
help - reports healthy except internet bit.
The annoying thing is this all worked before I re mastered my desktop. I've re installed network devices and drivers a number of times and they
seem ok.
I'm wondering if it's anything to do with internet explorer or ICS or something else!!
HELP 
Marcus
Marcus
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Mr G
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| posted on 28/12/05 at 12:34 PM |
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I had this trouble last night when I installed a linksys wireless card in my lappy. In the end I had to let windows handle the card and not the
linksys software.
In my wireless networking properties I had to tick 'use windows to configure my wireless network settings' then manual enter the wep
numbers etc. If the linksys software was running in the task bar It would say i had a network but no internet.
I also haad to go into internet explorer>tools>internet options>connections> and sort the setup out so that it used an always on
connection not dialup etc.
[Edited on 28/12/05 by Mr G]
Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a
car that you are still paying for - in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes
and the car, and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it.
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IWantOne
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| posted on 28/12/05 at 02:31 PM |
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turn off DHCP. pick a static IP address and your problems should be over.
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Genesis
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| posted on 28/12/05 at 03:44 PM |
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I had a similar problem all the faults you mention... used a static IP the 255.255.196.1 jobby and it still never connected to the internet. I'm
no PC phobiac either but this was frying my brain... in the end a friend of mine (network analyst had a go, never solved it either) In the end I
narrowed it right down to my soft-firewall. I was using Kerio - not anymore, now I've got two bluetooth USB Dongles and the connection speed is
great - use Sygate firewall (as it's not so intrusive). Lots quicker to setup, lots more reliable and cheaper. Both dongles for £16 from
bigpockets.co.uk - now I'm sorted and happy. Plus you can link to bluetooth enabled phones and a whole load of other blue tooth equipment. Range
is in excess of 100m.
Go BLUE! 
[Edited on 28/12/05 by Genesis]
Going fishin'
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 28/12/05 at 03:50 PM |
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A bit puzzled over your setup
are you saying you have a USB modem plugged in to your main pc and are using internet sharing on that PC with the WAN port of a the linksys plugged
into the PC's network port ?
what linksys router do you have?
sorry to say this but USB 'broadband modems' are total crap. Almost every problem I have had with broadband installations has been down
to USB modems....
Dave
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Marcus
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| posted on 28/12/05 at 03:54 PM |
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Turned off DHCP, still the same.
Can ping all over network, but no internet.
Will try switching off firewall
Marcus
Marcus
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 28/12/05 at 03:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Genesis
I had a similar problem all the faults you mention... used a static IP the 255.255.196.1 jobby and it still never connected to the internet. I'm
no PC phobiac either but this was frying my brain... in the end a friend of mine (network analyst had a go, never solved it either) In the end I
narrowed it right down to my soft-firewall. I was using Kerio - not anymore, now I've got two bluetooth USB Dongles and the connection speed is
great - use Sygate firewall (as it's not so intrusive). Lots quicker to setup, lots more reliable and cheaper. Both dongles for £16 from
bigpockets.co.uk - now I'm sorted and happy. Plus you can link to bluetooth enabled phones and a whole load of other blue tooth equipment. Range
is in excess of 100m.
Go BLUE!
[Edited on 28/12/05 by Genesis]
WTF ??!!
bluetooth is a nightmare and if you are using internet connection sharing you must use 192.168.0.***
Dave
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 28/12/05 at 04:07 PM |
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Having just re-read your post....
If I am guessing your setup correctly.. is your Internet connection sharing on the main PCV switched on post the rebuild?
Dave
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Marcus
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| posted on 28/12/05 at 04:09 PM |
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Hmm, IP address interesting, I was using 192.168.1.***
BUT if I change to 192.168.0.***, I can't ping my router, nor enter the router setup page!
Marcus
Marcus
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 28/12/05 at 04:17 PM |
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you'll need to change the network settings in the router setup and reboot it before you change the IP address on the clients
assuming you are using ICS and the setup is as I guessed then you need ideally
IP address of main PC 192.168.0.1
WAN address of router 192.168.0.2
LAN address of router, something else - suggest 192.168.1.1
DHCP on LAN of router to match LAN IP e.g.
192.168.1.2-192.168.1.254
ensure ICS is switched on at main PC
check/ try disabling any firewalls etc.
Dave
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Marcus
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| posted on 28/12/05 at 04:32 PM |
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At the risk of getting boring,
If I click on LAN connection in Network connections, I get an IP address of 192.168.0.101 on desktop, 192.168.0.102 on Laptop and router IP set to
192.168.0.1
Got my ping back all around network, and can access router setup page from all devices.
Better than before, but STILL no internet!
Have tried disabling firewalls (windows XP)/ spyware detectors (spycatcher) etc.
No change
Marcus
Marcus
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 28/12/05 at 05:03 PM |
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Ahhhh
so judging from your addresses I have guessed your configuration slightly wrong ?
looks like you are getting DHCP addresses for both the desktop and laptop which implies that you have both connected to the routers LAN side.....
what is the complete output from a IPCONFIG /ALL command ? (in a cmd window)
please copy the entire output and paste it into a post (you need to right click on the banner at the top of the window and select edit>select
all>copy)
Off home now but will check later from home....
Dave
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Marcus
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| posted on 28/12/05 at 05:17 PM |
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Ok, o/p from ipconfig /all
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Marcus Bennett>ipconfig /all
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : home-7kgs15cbsp
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-D8-F7-CA-5D
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.101
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
PPP adapter Speedtouch Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 84.68.145.28
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 84.68.145.28
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 195.92.195.95
195.92.195.94
C:\Documents and Settings\Marcus Bennett>
I'm considering a different modem / router!
Marcus
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 28/12/05 at 05:48 PM |
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I'm pretty certain from your config that Internet connection sharing is switched off......
Dave
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Marcus
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| posted on 28/12/05 at 06:00 PM |
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Well that would explain a lot, but in Network Connections, icon for Internet says shared, Firewalled, connected.
Properties / advanced have all 3 checkboxes ticked
Marcus
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Marcus
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| posted on 28/12/05 at 09:42 PM |
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Just spent an hour live chatting with linksys support bloke, had me do everything I've already done. At the end he said "well your pcs
appear to be communicating with each other"
I KNEW THAT, ASSHOLE, ITS INTERNET I'M HAVING PROBLEMS WITH
Sorry, just had to rant
Marcus
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 28/12/05 at 10:25 PM |
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thing is when you enable ICS it is supposed to force the ip address to 192.168.0.1 so i am confused ??
Dave
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 29/12/05 at 09:15 AM |
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can you confirm exactly what model linksys you have ?
cheers
Dave
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Marcus
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| posted on 30/12/05 at 12:26 PM |
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Morning Dave,
Fresh head today. Im convinced its an ICS problem, but not sure how to cure it!
Linksys router is WRK54G, laptop card is WPC54G. Bought as a kit from PC world.
Marcus
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 30/12/05 at 04:35 PM |
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as an experiment try setting the IP address on your laptop to a static address
ip 192.168.0.102
mask 255.255.255.0
default gateway 192.168.0.101
cheers
Dave
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Marcus
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| posted on 30/12/05 at 04:52 PM |
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Have switched DHCP off, so all devices have static IPs. Thought I was getting somewhere, switched firewall off for LAN connection (router) on desktop,
and can now access internet wirelessly with PDA.
Briefly got an icon in network connections showing gateway to internet via desktop. BUT restarted both PCs and lost it!!
Marcus
BTW, should the default gateway address be the same as the router IP or desktop IP or neither?
[Edited on 30/12/05 by Marcus]
Marcus
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Marcus
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| posted on 30/12/05 at 05:27 PM |
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Bugger me, I think I've got it!!
I'm even writing this on the laptop
it seems that when I disabled DHCP, I didn't put the DNS addresses in!
Set the router to 192.168.0.254
desktop to 192.168.0.1, laptop to 192.168.0.2, and all is well!!
Windows firewall seemed to give the most problems though, may upgrade to Zone alarm or summat.
Thanks for all your help, especially DaveFJ, Ill see how I go.
Marcus
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 30/12/05 at 11:37 PM |
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glad it's sorted.....
Dave
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