britishtrident
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| posted on 22/6/07 at 07:08 AM |
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Linux always amazes me :-)
Step daughters PC motherboard died just before I went on holiday -- quick and dirty fix took the motherboard out of one of mine connected the hard
disk and it worked mephis Linux didn't hesitate for an instant it just booted and worked as if nothing had happened.
Ok I thought the computers had the same processor & chipset (Duron K7SOM) but they were from different manufacturers and had different sound
cards.
On return from holiday I was still one computer down so as I couldn't find another K7SOM motherboard on Ebay I ordered a new PC from Morgan
Computers -- just a cheap end of E-System with an Athlon 3000+.
Took most of the day to get XP fully setup and the software installed I then stuck my old hard disk loaded with Mint Linux in as the second hard
disk.
Pressing F8 at boot I booted from the second hard disk, result instant Mint Linux !
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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RazMan
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| posted on 22/6/07 at 07:59 AM |
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I quite like the idea of changing to Linux and turning my back on Bill Gates' emporium. I tried Ubuntu and although it was fuss free and
didn't mind my hardware configuration, I have invested too much time and cash on MS software (Office mainly) so it would probably mean
converting all of my Word, Excel, Project, Access etc files to make them useable in Linux.
Also I doubt that I could use my mapping software on the lappy, or edit my photos in Photoshop, plan a route with Autoroute, download music to my
phone or mp3 player etc etc. The list goes on.....
Looks like Bill has got me by the goolies 
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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Hellfire
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| posted on 22/6/07 at 08:04 AM |
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British - you really should say things like this on a forum which I read... 
I think you know I'm a bit of a technophile... (I shall resist, I shall resist, I shall resist!)
Having said that I'm current looking at the new external 1Tb eSATA drives. With 5 times the speed of USB2. I dare say it would boot from a
detachable drive. (Oh no... that's done it!). Dam you man...!!!!
Steve
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Peteff
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| posted on 22/6/07 at 08:21 AM |
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I use a linux boot disk to run without hard drive to check motherboards. They are a very handy tool.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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robertst
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| posted on 22/6/07 at 08:47 AM |
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isn't linux derived from the "holy grail" of systems?: UNIX? that would explain why its so good but VERY basic and still has the
file mayhem windows has.
my opinion: OSX has it all...
Tom
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iank
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| posted on 22/6/07 at 09:05 AM |
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'derived' has some specific meaning in software copyright and so no Linux isn't derived from UNIX.
However it is a unix clone for all intense purposes and implements the full posix specification - which is, I think, what you meant.
If you think it's basic you haven't used it for 5 years  KDE and Gnome do much the same job as OS/X and Vista in the eye-candy
department.
OS/X is very nice, but is also Unix under the shiny graphical interface you know.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 22/6/07 at 09:47 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
British - you really should say things like this on a forum which I read...
I think you know I'm a bit of a technophile... (I shall resist, I shall resist, I shall resist!)
Having said that I'm current looking at the new external 1Tb eSATA drives. With 5 times the speed of USB2. I dare say it would boot from a
detachable drive. (Oh no... that's done it!). Dam you man...!!!!
Steve
Steve Ive been at you for ages to try the darkside....
And as for the other lad MS orifice aint the only suite in the world.....
Linux is so flexible that most apps not ported to linux can be run under wine or crossover....
Steve you know you want to
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SixedUp
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| posted on 22/6/07 at 11:03 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RazMan
I have invested too much time and cash on MS software (Office mainly) so it would probably mean converting all of my Word, Excel, Project, Access etc
files to make them useable in Linux.
Open Office will read and write to all but the most recent release of MS's office formats. The odd thing formats slightly differently, but
overall it works extremely well, and costs £0.00  Project is a thorn though ... I don't believe you can do much with that under Linux.
quote:
Also I doubt that I could use my mapping software on the lappy, or edit my photos in Photoshop, plan a route with Autoroute, download music to
my phone or mp3 player etc etc. The list goes on.....
http://www.gpsdrive.de/index.shtml should do most of what you want from general mapping software.
Gimp would generally replace Photoshop.
I don't know of a (free) route-planner on Linux yet, though http://pgrouting.postlbs.org/ looks promising for the future. I don't think
its possible to run Autoroute under Wine (a Windows emulator) unfortunately.
Linux normally copes well with portable media players, though you may struggle if you have a lot of DRM-infected music. See
http://tuxmobil.org/portable_players.html, and http://tuxmobil.org/phones_linux.html for info on specific combinations of devices.
Next?
Seriously, I'm in the same situation as you - I want out of the MS enforced upgrade cycles, and over-the-top costs for software, especially
since my wife and kids all demanded their own machines. I've got them all on Ubuntu Linux, and I'm now running Ubuntu and Windows in
parallel. I find I need to reboot into Windows less and less as time goes by. I'm currently toying with the idea of installing Windows either
under VMWare running on Linux (or maybe even using something like Xen) so I can actually access the few Windows programs I still need without having
to reboot out of Linux.
It's taken some effort, but the lack of a vice-like grip on my goolies is worth it
Cheers
Richard
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Hellfire
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| posted on 22/6/07 at 04:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop
quote:
Steve Ive been at you for ages to try the darkside....
And as for the other lad MS orifice aint the only suite in the world.....
Linux is so flexible that most apps not ported to linux can be run under wine or crossover....
Steve you know you want to
I know - I've just got so much software that I think is MS dependant.... Let me know then:
S o l i d w o r k s 2007
V e g a s 7
P h o t o s h o p C S 3 (Gimp is terrible!)
O f f i c e 2 0 0 7
D r e a m w e a v e r 8
E p l a n 5 . 4
to name but a few.... I want good alternatives if I am to swap!
Steve
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 23/6/07 at 10:23 AM |
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Linux is fun to play with, but I've never managed to be properly productive with it, partly because of the lack of several of the applications
that I use on a daily basis, that don't work properly under Wine either (mainly cross compilers and their IDE's).
Is it just me or are modern Linux distributions far more resource hungry than XP? e.g. whilst Ubunto runs at a just about acceptable speed on my main
XP2500 machine, a reasonably fresh XP install flies by comparison.
I recently tried the "lite" version XUbunto on an old 800MHz Duron based system with 512MB RAM and gave up trying to get it to install
(didn't like my SIS graphics adapter, the screen just went blank during installation and didn't recover). I then downloaded Mandriva
which installed ok, but the system is so slow as to be totally unusable, so it's back to XP again.
For software development I now use the Cygwin tools which allows me to run all the useful Linux command line tools under XP, so I get the best of both
worlds.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 23/6/07 at 01:20 PM |
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Mandriva - formerly known as Mandrake always ran like treacle it was so bad it nearly put me off Linux.
Problem usually down to the soundcard setup, test I used was to run the kDE game "Kolf" and hit a stroke if it took a second or more to
hit the put the soundcard setup wasn't working.
Unbuntu had a problem with SIS video for a short time -- why I don't know as every other Linux distro worked fine with SIS cards although the 3d
hardware acceleration for games is nonexistant.
I know from experience Ubuntu fiesty and Mint both run fine on SIS cards and Duron processors with 256mb
[Edited on 23/6/07 by britishtrident]
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 23/6/07 at 04:05 PM |
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The xUbuntu release I tried to install was "Feisty Fawn". Also tried the previous xUbuntu version with same results
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violentblue
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| posted on 27/6/07 at 01:05 AM |
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I have xubuntu rinning quite nicely on my old pIII 1000mhz machine with 512mb
running as a server with occasional desktop use. never had an ounce of issue with it.
Mandrake, well yes it is a little bloated, but it was the first distro I ever used, and I like that it did everything out of the box.
a few pics of my other projects
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Marcus
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| posted on 27/6/07 at 11:39 AM |
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Apparently, I can put Linux on my PS3, hmmmmm
Marcus
Because kits are for girls!!
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stevebubs
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| posted on 1/7/07 at 11:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by violentblue
Mandrake, well yes it is a little bloated, but it was the first distro I ever used, and I like that it did everything out of the box.
Early slackware distro for me... kernel 0.97 or something equally daft.
Thinking back, first contact for me was probably way back in late 1994....13 years ago!!!
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stevebubs
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| posted on 1/7/07 at 11:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Marcus
Apparently, I can put Linux on my PS3, hmmmmm
Nah. Just buy an original Xbox, bung it on there and use it as a media centre by your telly.
£40 well spent, IMO
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