BenB
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 12:53 PM |
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Hamilton faces Japan win inquiry
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7027743.stm
Bernie and Max really don't want him to win do they?
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stevec
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 12:56 PM |
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Bloody whinging colonials again.
[Edited on 4/10/07 by stevec]
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RickRick
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 01:04 PM |
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i seem to remember him lewis saying something in an interview just after the race saying he found it hard to keep sight of the safty car, and was
concerned about being hit from behind
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Alez
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 01:05 PM |
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Have a look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hWIfBkVQUk
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 01:09 PM |
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"five car lengths" is a b!oody stupid rule in the wet anyway. The whole of F1 now is a total joke!! No thoughts of chucking Ferrari out
for ignoring a direct order in not starting on the extreme wet tyres i see. If they want to look at dodgy stunts then look at M Schmacher over the
years - how many times was he threatened with losing points for it??
Why didnt Moseley and his cronies just throw McClaren out if they were so determined to stop Lewis winning??
Bring back plans for the breakaway championship i recon!! 
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nib1980
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 01:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Alez
Have a look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hWIfBkVQUk
there even trying to hide the evidence now too!
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James
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 01:19 PM |
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Video's been taken down... 
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"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
- Muhammad Ali
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James
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 01:21 PM |
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That Monaco race a few seasons ago, when JPM drove into the back of M Schumacher in the tunnel...
that was when MS 'brake tested' him wasn't it?
Cheers,
James
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"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
- Muhammad Ali
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BenB
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 01:30 PM |
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I don't think that was under safety car conditions though was it?
I think the contentious bit here is whether Lewis was playing silly buggers behind the safety car....
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James
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 01:31 PM |
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Weber:
"Part of me wonders whether he showed a little bit of naivety, while part of me wonders whether he had a few tricks up his sleeve. I'd say
it was probably a bit of both."
Yeah, I'm sure Hamilton was really bricking it with Mark '10 points' Webber behind him!!! 
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"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
- Muhammad Ali
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 01:33 PM |
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gotta do something to maintain the interest levels in F1, I bet they had more interest since all this crap started than they have in the last 5
years.
F1 will end up a joke, like wrestling - forced to rebrand as entertainment rather than sport.
Wanna see a brit SPORTSman doing well? watch World superbikes.
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nige
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 01:44 PM |
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/\/\ /\/\
as above said
top man toseland
when you start this journey
you think it will be done in " no " time but then " no " turns into a " bloody " long time
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James
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 01:47 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
Wanna see a brit SPORTSman doing well? watch World superbikes.
Or Savate kickboxing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WadTkRxeE5A
TeamGB won 2 Silvers and 3 Bronze medals at the last World championships.
And I'm hoping for a Gold at the Europeans in Belgium beginning of next month!
Cheers,
James
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"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
- Muhammad Ali
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Alez
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 01:50 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by James
Video's been taken down...
You would have flipped to it, honest. Let me see if the clip has been copied somewhere else.
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Hammerhead
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 01:51 PM |
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the s*17 won't stick to Hamilton. They are supposed to be racing drivers, why would he or any of them care about what goes on behind? they
perhaps need to concentrate a little harder, or if they think Hamilton is driving erratically or dangerously they could have hung back a
bit..............silly little boys.
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Alez
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 01:51 PM |
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Copied..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QJurnfxRm4
Watch it NOW!
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BenB
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 01:56 PM |
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You would have thought if there was any investigating to be done it would be against Ferrari for pulling someone into the pit and then doing diddly
squit just so they can let their other driver pass.....
It is strange on the video though, it looks like he loses drive quite suddenly for a while... Perhaps it was wet and his foot slipped off the
pedal....
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Hammerhead
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 01:56 PM |
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maybe Hamilton saw Vettel coming and moved to the outside, but Webber didn't see and got collected.
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Alez
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 01:58 PM |
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Clip is quite revealing, I think it shows pretty much this sequence:
1. Hamilton gets side by side with safety car
2. Cars behind accelerate as a consequence (probably they can't see the safety car themselves)
3. Hamilton brakes
4. Car following him realizes he's gone PAST Hamilton and brakes to try and avoid that
5. Car behind crashes into it as a consequence
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James
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 02:05 PM |
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Cheers for the 2nd vid Alex.
It does look a little dodgy in that video, he clearly is more than 5 car lengths from the safety car from about 6.5-7secs into the vid.
But then again from the link in the 1st post:
"German driver Vettel echoed Webber's comments in criticising Hamilton.
"It was my fault, but it is clear the rhythm was not there," he said.
"We are all sitting in the same boat. At the point [of the crash) I was distracted, looking to the right.
"I was sure Hamilton was retiring, he seemed to have no power any longer, but by the time I looked back, I was already in Mark's rear
end."
"Distracted looking to the right.... by the time I looked back, I was already in Mark's rear end" 
Christ! I hope they don't take point off him!
If they hand the season to that little tit Alonso I'll give up on F1!
[Edited on 4/10/07 by James]
[Edited on 4/10/07 by James]
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"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
- Muhammad Ali
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Hammerhead
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 02:23 PM |
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maybe they should paint the 'safety' car a suitable colour to make it visible in the possible conditions where a 'safety' car
might be needed.......but hey I'm sure that the FIA are getting a nice sum for letting Mercedes use their cars in their corporate (Silver
Arrows) colours. After all Mosely has certain German connections. 
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BenB
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 02:36 PM |
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If Max was sponsored by Mercedes though he probably wouldn't have shat all over McLaren though on behalf of Ferrari.........
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Alez
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 02:41 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hammerhead
maybe they should paint the 'safety' car a suitable colour to make it visible in the possible conditions where a 'safety' car
might be needed.......
+1, Gulf / Le Mans color scheme just like your avatar would be nice and lot more useful Grey is a bit stupid!
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thunderace
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 03:03 PM |
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here is the thing your all missing if they do lewis they would have to do evryone who has been more than 5 cars behind the safty car year ,
the safty car slows very slow then floors in when it sees him at there side window look closely.i dont like lewis and i can see its not his fault if
anyones its the safty cars fault.
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Duncan_P
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| posted on 4/10/07 at 03:27 PM |
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Yes the safety car does seem to slow down rather a lot, and then takes a rather strange line through the corner before resuming its faster pace...
Hamilton avoids the safety car rather than stamping on his brakes, which seems to be a sensible thing to do. Although admitidly he does seem to take
a while to get back on the gas...(probably wondering what the two behind him are up to)
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