JoelP
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posted on 12/6/11 at 07:08 PM |
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he was just trying to overtake, no harm there. With webber he slipped on the kerb, button closed the door on him, schumacher scared him off. Same at
monaco, he was just trying to pass people. Had the other drivers avoided him like people used to avoid montoya, there wouldnt be as many collisions.
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Antnicuk
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posted on 12/6/11 at 07:33 PM |
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i dont know a great deal about F1 but from what i gather Senna was a little 'spirited' in some of his overtakes but people thinkg he was
passionate and an F1 hero. Maybe hamilton has to be dead before people will like him
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mrwibble
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posted on 12/6/11 at 08:03 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by scootz
You can't go charging around a wet circuit the way he was doing... he'd already had one 'at fault' prang just a few minutes
before! If it hadn't happened when it did, then it would have happened soon after!
PS - I also thought that JB turned sharply into him, but the re-runs show it was the contact from the rear that made JB's front end momentarily
twitch left.
[Edited on 12/6/11 by scootz]
tbh its a Fing f1 race...
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D Beddows
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posted on 12/6/11 at 08:08 PM |
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lol, that's probably true - almost everyone disliked Senna when he was alive basically for the same reasons people dislike Lewis Hamilton
now....... Now he's been dead a good while he's become everyones favorite F1 driver - I just remember an arrogant t*sser who would do
anything to win.......but who also happened to be an amazingly gifted driver......
No, I'm not comparing the two in terms of talent just the public's reaction to them
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blakep82
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posted on 12/6/11 at 08:19 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Gordy
Why does everyone have to make excuses for Hamiltons driving errors (4 in last 2 races)???
[Edited on 12/6/11 by Gordy]
Fancy making excuses for jensens driving now? Taking out 2 cars with similar moves :-P
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scootz
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posted on 12/6/11 at 09:09 PM |
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What a finish... GO Button!
It's Evolution Baby!
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pdm
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posted on 12/6/11 at 09:11 PM |
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Hamilton's the same as Simoncelli - bit of a hothead anyway and it gets worse when putting himself under pressure - both of them have left
themselves a lot to do today.
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Gordy
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posted on 12/6/11 at 09:22 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by blakep82
quote: Originally posted by Gordy
Why does everyone have to make excuses for Hamiltons driving errors (4 in last 2 races)???
[Edited on 12/6/11 by Gordy]
Fancy making excuses for jensens driving now? Taking out 2 cars with similar moves :-P
Dont need to make excuses for Button he's a fine
driver,amazing win. Hamilton could learn a lot from him, in fact Hamilton would do well in touring cars or stock car racing with his overtaking
techniques
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mrwibble
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posted on 12/6/11 at 09:27 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Gordy
quote: Originally posted by blakep82
quote: Originally posted by Gordy
Why does everyone have to make excuses for Hamiltons driving errors (4 in last 2 races)???
[Edited on 12/6/11 by Gordy]
Fancy making excuses for jensens driving now? Taking out 2 cars with similar moves :-P
Dont need to make excuses for Button he's a fine
driver,amazing win. Hamilton could learn a lot from him, in fact Hamilton would do well in touring cars or stock car racing with his overtaking
techniques
bah. hamilton would wip button every time 1v1
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Gordy
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posted on 12/6/11 at 09:34 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by mrwibble
quote: Originally posted by Gordy
quote: Originally posted by blakep82
quote: Originally posted by Gordy
Why does everyone have to make excuses for Hamiltons driving errors (4 in last 2 races)???
[Edited on 12/6/11 by Gordy]
Fancy making excuses for jensens driving now? Taking out 2 cars with similar moves :-P
Dont need to make excuses for Button he's a fine
driver,amazing win. Hamilton could learn a lot from him, in fact Hamilton would do well in touring cars or stock car racing with his overtaking
techniques
bah. hamilton would wip button every time 1v1
Every time??? like today i suppose, you need to finish the race to win the race.
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Johneturbo
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posted on 12/6/11 at 09:43 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by scootz
I hope it's his driving style you find entertaining as I find his (lack of) personality as dull as dishwater!
I agree you need personalitys, hopefully di resta will grow one.. after Qually i thought they were interviewing Andy murray!
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skodaman
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posted on 13/6/11 at 01:08 AM |
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" I just remember an arrogant t*sser who would do anything to win.'' Yes that's how I remember him as well. Unfortunately
Lewis holds him up as his greatest hero. Senna and even more so Scummy have greatly tarnished their reputations by dirty driving. Lewis hasn't
gone this far yet. But he needs to calm down. His last two races have just been dumb. Could've been a Brit one two cos he's undoubtably
faster than Button when he doesn't crash.
Skodaman
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hughpinder
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posted on 13/6/11 at 08:19 AM |
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I like Hamilton to watch, but Button seems to win more because of better tactics and wearing his tyres less. I suspect Hamilton will stop pushing
quite so hard in a couple of races time, as it will then be impossible for him to be world champion this season even if he wins every race.
Hugh
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Peteff
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posted on 13/6/11 at 08:20 AM |
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Nicole Scherzinger is sucking all the common sense out of him, jammy git.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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scootz
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posted on 13/6/11 at 08:24 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by hughpinder
I suspect Hamilton will stop pushing quite so hard in a couple of races time, as it will then be impossible for him to be world champion this season
even if he wins every race.
I reckon he will go the opposite way and become more banzai than ever!
It's Evolution Baby!
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James
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posted on 13/6/11 at 08:28 AM |
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Unbeleivable! The moaning that goes on about F1 being boring and there being no overtaking and a massively talented, British, driver comes along
who's done more to spice things up in years and he gets slagged!
As they said during the race, of the 280 competitive over-takes this season, Hamilton has made 10% of them!
Along with Vettel and Alonso, Hamilton is clearly in the top 3 drivers. Any of the commentators will continually say this and it's frequently
mentioned in the reputable F1 media. Anyone who believes he's not in the top tier 3 is mistaken.
Think of all the pre-Pirelli/DRS years since 2007 when most of the pack seemed to just drive round in line, one after another never taking any
risks... apart from Alonso, Lewis and Kimi.
I've heard people criticise Hamilton for being too 'corporate' and sticking to the company line (my God! he's professional and
doesn't slag his employer to the press- you tried doing that and kept your job?) and then he makes a comment like the Ali G one (when he was
clearly actually upset and emotional) and people criticise him for that too. The guy can't win!
We could have another whole thread about WHY it can't be easy being of mixed race in F1 and how the Ali G line could be at the back of his mind-
but that would go *really* OT!
Don't get me wrong, there were clearly mistakes made both here and Monaco, I don't know why his judgement is off at the moment and
it's a great shame as the Mclaren is now as quick in race trim as the RedBull (and will be as quick in qualy, I suspect, now hot blown exhausts
are banned). It *may* be lifestyle or a lack of an 'F1 manager'. I suspect it's that he *knows* he should be winning and so is
taking unnecessary risks. Maybe someone needs to sit him down and explain the bigger picture! Look at Alonso, he's been mighty patient whilst
waiting for the car to get up to scratch!
As for Button:
Good on Button for what he achieved yesterday. I'm massively pleased for there to be another Mclaren win. Button is great in those
changeable-type conditions and having stopped 5(?) times for tyres and had a drive-through he did amazingly to get up to 2nd and then to pressurize
Vettel into making a mistake.
Gutted not to have bought a Rocket Red top a few months ago when I had the chance of a cheaper one. Not sure I can get away with wearing it at work
when I should be in a shirt/tie though!
Mclaren forever!!!
cheers,
James
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franky
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posted on 13/6/11 at 09:00 AM |
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No doubt he's good but his ambition is greater than his ability.
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BenB
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posted on 13/6/11 at 09:05 AM |
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I think Hamilton is a great driver but he needs to take a tiny little chill pill because recently he's been going for some rather silly moves.
The move on Button was a prime example, if Hamilton had taken the outer wet line he would have been fine but instead he tried to nip into the dry line
and hope Button saw him coming. He didn't.
Bizarely in the first few years he showed more maturity!
Exciting race though eh?
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designer
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posted on 13/6/11 at 09:20 AM |
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The problem with Lewis is his 'new' lifestyle.
Trophy girlfriend, silly beard and earring!!!
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James
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posted on 13/6/11 at 09:34 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by designer
The problem with Lewis is his 'new' lifestyle.
Trophy girlfriend, silly beard and earring!!!
You've seen JB's girlfriend? You've seen Vettel and everyone else's daft beard? Not entirely sure it's the problem!
Maybe it's just the earrings?
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ashg
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posted on 13/6/11 at 11:48 AM |
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