mad4x4
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posted on 27/8/09 at 07:47 AM |
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Welded Diff
Can your run Long term with a welded DIFF on the Road
Simply becasue cost of LSD's or other options are getting to be NON LOCOST
Scot's do it better in Kilts.
MK INDY's Don't Self Centre Regardless of MK Setting !
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flak monkey
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posted on 27/8/09 at 07:50 AM |
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I wouldnt, you'll scrub tyres and handling will be awful. Unless you like going sideways all the time.
They are great in drift cars or offroading, useless on tarmac
You should be able to pick up a 3.62 LSD for about £100.
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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MikeRJ
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posted on 27/8/09 at 07:51 AM |
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Very silly idea for road use.
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deezee
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posted on 27/8/09 at 07:52 AM |
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Unless you don't intend to take corners on a day to day basis, I'd avoid it. After all, your removing the ability for the wheels to turn
a different speeds. So they'll hop, skip and snatch all the time.
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adithorp
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posted on 27/8/09 at 07:53 AM |
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It'd be very short-term on the road and then, if you're lucky, backwards into a field. If your unlucky you'll end up in court.
adrian
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
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Mr Whippy
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posted on 27/8/09 at 07:57 AM |
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don't do it, car will handle very bad and wear your tyres to nothing
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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contaminated
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posted on 27/8/09 at 08:34 AM |
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2 LSDs for sale on the Tiger Owners website.
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contaminated
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posted on 27/8/09 at 08:35 AM |
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Oh, and on here I see!
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mookaloid
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posted on 27/8/09 at 08:45 AM |
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I wouldn't do it for 100 yards on a road never mind long term.
You'll understeer straight off the road
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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daviep
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posted on 27/8/09 at 09:31 AM |
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How many people who have commented have driven a car with a solid axle?
Have a look at lap times for Global GT Lights. They are single seaters powered by an R1 and look similar to Radicals. They run IRS with a solid chain
driven axle and they handle superbly.
Davie
[Edited on 27/8/09 by daviep]
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Mr Whippy
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posted on 27/8/09 at 10:23 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by daviep
How many people who have commented have driven a car with a solid axle?
Have a look at lap times for Global GT Lights. They are single seaters powered by an R1 and look similar to Radicals. They run IRS with a solid chain
driven axle and they handle superbly.
Davie
Saying that I was going to buy a 6 wheeled troop carrier a while back but after speaking to the owner about its total lack of diff’s and how it coped
on the road without them. I was told if he didn’t drive it half on the grass embankment the tyres would be smoking after a few miles…needless to say
that put a dampener on that idea I’ve also had landys that I’ve used with the diff lock on and unless it’s been raining and the roads are greasy
you really notice how much the half shafts wind up, what you actually get is a constant snatching from the slipping wheels causing the car to shudder.
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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Aico
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posted on 27/8/09 at 11:28 AM |
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You can definatly drive with it long term. You just get understeer at low speeds. If a used working LSD is only 100-300Pounds then it's already
worth the buy. Understeer is no fun.
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MikeRJ
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posted on 27/8/09 at 11:53 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by daviep
How many people who have commented have driven a car with a solid axle?
Have a look at lap times for Global GT Lights. They are single seaters powered by an R1 and look similar to Radicals. They run IRS with a solid chain
driven axle and they handle superbly.
How many of these get driven on the road for long distances?
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mad4x4
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posted on 27/8/09 at 12:06 PM |
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Good to see some healthy debate on this subject. I know some of the 4x4 boys use welded rear diffs as well but mainly offroad. It was the longer
term I was looking at and intrested to see if any people do actually run solid axles? becasue you do hear talk about them...
On the same point most CART's run solid axles but again not on the road.
Is there anything legal that says you must have a "open" diff on the road?
Scot's do it better in Kilts.
MK INDY's Don't Self Centre Regardless of MK Setting !
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mad4x4
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posted on 27/8/09 at 12:14 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Mr Whippy
quote: Originally posted by daviep
How many people who have commented have driven a car with a solid axle?
Have a look at lap times for Global GT Lights. They are single seaters powered by an R1 and look similar to Radicals. They run IRS with a solid chain
driven axle and they handle superbly.
Davie
Saying that I was going to buy a 6 wheeled troop carrier a while back but after speaking to the owner about its total lack of diff’s and how it coped
on the road without them. I was told if he didn’t drive it half on the grass embankment the tyres would be smoking after a few miles…needless to say
that put a dampener on that idea I’ve also had landys that I’ve used with the diff lock on and unless it’s been raining and the roads are greasy
you really notice how much the half shafts wind up, what you actually get is a constant snatching from the slipping wheels causing the car to shudder.
The driving on grass bit is due to the meshing between the axles due to central diffs to let one axle turn faster than the other. Usually called
transmission wind up.......and NOTHING to do with the "Left/Right" of each wheel. You have the same problem in a old landrover with the
4x4 locked in......
Scot's do it better in Kilts.
MK INDY's Don't Self Centre Regardless of MK Setting !
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Mr Whippy
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posted on 27/8/09 at 02:05 PM |
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aparently the 6 wheeled Stalwart has no diffs anywhere bit of a sod as the tyres are very expensive
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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mangogrooveworkshop
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posted on 27/8/09 at 02:46 PM |
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Quads are very unstable with solid axles so a bigger version would be just as bad.
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Canada EH!
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posted on 27/8/09 at 02:53 PM |
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I ran welded diffs in both and Anglia and 1200 Datsun race cars, both worked well on race tracks, couldn't push and turn the damn things in the
pits, hell in the rain.
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andkilde
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posted on 27/8/09 at 10:11 PM |
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quote:
On the same point most CART's run solid axles but again not on the road.
Is there anything legal that says you must have a "open" diff on the road?
Kart's use "caster jacking" to prop themselves onto three wheels in order to corner effectively -- this doesn't really work on
a suspended car as the springs and shocks work to keep all four on the ground at any given time.
I doubt there would be any specific legislation forbidding locked diffs on the road, but your local bobby would surely nick you for hooning about
sideways everywhere you go, they might even pull you over just for making squealy tyre noises as you'd be likely to do at slow speeds.
My friends who rally use welded diffs on occasion -- they're apparently quite a handful on tarmac and it's quite common to snap a
halfshaft at parking lot speeds.
Cheers, Ted
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02GF74
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posted on 28/8/09 at 07:15 PM |
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may work
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