richard thomas
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| posted on 7/10/10 at 09:11 PM |
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Am I missing something?
Traffic Cops tonight.
Girl gets stopped driving car, lies about identity, insurance etc, sets traffic cop on a goosechase to find out that she is not in fact the
'twin sister' she claims she is that doesn't actually exist....in court fine reduced to £40 and 3 points on her provisional licence
which means she shouldn't have been on the road in the first place to incur the offence!!!
Fella gets stopped riding through a red traffic light on his push bike, no lights....argues with police a bit that the fact he is 'being
unreasonable' is because his view does not align with theirs....£1000 fine 'as an example' to society. ( Ironically, as the accused
is being questioned, a car driving passed with no lights on is stopped and advised of the fact and moved along, the logic to this being that the
driver is not at as much risk as the cyclist because he is in a car....carefully avoiding the fact that the car could have done some serious damage to
a cyclist with no lights on.....)
Nice to see that the law is being applied consistently across our proud nation.
Not.
[Edited on 7/10/10 by richard thomas]
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steve m
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| posted on 7/10/10 at 09:13 PM |
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I thought it was £700 fine for the guy on the bike
still excessive
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richard thomas
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| posted on 7/10/10 at 09:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by steve m
I thought it was £700 fine for the guy on the bike
still excessive
Correct, it was £700 plus £250 costs i think....was typing too quick for memory to keep up.....apols.
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dinosaurjuice
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| posted on 7/10/10 at 09:30 PM |
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I know a good few poeple who cycle to work, earning less than £200 a week. how can they justify taking 5 weeks wages (ignoring income tax...)?!?!?! 
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l0rd
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| posted on 7/10/10 at 09:31 PM |
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I need to confirm it but my wife told me in Greece, there are hilarious fines that will be enforced.
Smoking whilst driving
£2600
[Edited on 7/10/10 by l0rd]
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snapper
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| posted on 7/10/10 at 09:37 PM |
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I have one word.....
Magistrate
Oh and Real world, that is the real world they know little about.
I eat to survive
I drink to forget
I breath to pi55 my ex wife off (and now my ex partner)
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steve m
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| posted on 7/10/10 at 09:38 PM |
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I missed the £250 costs bit!!!
appologies, i was wrong !
still bloody exessive for a push bike fine!!
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richard thomas
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| posted on 7/10/10 at 09:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by l0rd
I need to confirm it but my wife told me in Greece, there are hilarious fines that will be enforced.
Smoking whilst driving
£2600
I think that the magistrates must be smoking something.....
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steve m
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| posted on 7/10/10 at 09:40 PM |
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"I need to confirm it but my wife told me in Greece, there are hilarious fines that will be enforced.
Smoking whilst driving
£2600"
I actually agree with that, as its no different to someone eating, or texting/using a phone
Bring it on
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nitram38
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| posted on 7/10/10 at 09:42 PM |
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When I was 19 I had a minor accident. Based on my recent pay due to me being a qualified electrician, I had a £125 fine and 3 points. This was in the
early 80's.
I was fully insured and had a well maintained car.
Someone else I know, provisional, no insurance, tax, mot, rear ends a car in traffic.
Because he was unemployed, got a £40 fine and 3 points, plus got to pay it at £1 per week from his giro. I had to pay up straight away.
Can't say that even after all this time that I've got any less pissed off about it!
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richard thomas
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| posted on 7/10/10 at 09:47 PM |
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I honestly think that those with the best means and intentions will get penalised the most, as they are easy targets.
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richard thomas
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| posted on 7/10/10 at 09:59 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by snapper
I have one word.....
Magistrate
Oh and Real world, that is the real world they know little about.
Right, whilst I am on my soapbox...does anybody else worry that the vast majority of our governmental leaders have never actually done a
'real' job in their lives, (i.e. receive income from producing something tangible and meaningful) yet feel fully qualified to produce
policy which affects the very fabric of the vast majority of Britains' lives on the assumption that they know what they are doing is for the
best because their actions are drawn from conclusions based on academic studies and Oxbridge peer influences?
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MikeR
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| posted on 7/10/10 at 10:09 PM |
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having watched the program i think the cyclist got what he deserved....
he was drunk, riding a bike with no lights, reflectors and dark clothing. He ran a red light (but loitered after the line so that he crossed the
junction on green). He was asked politely to stop and told the police to go away. The police stated before they pulled him they just wanted to warn
him and get him to walk home.
The police got out and started to talk to him and he was a pillock. Eventually the police decided to charge him. He refused his quick fine, gave them
grief. He decided to go to court, he had the risk explained. He got what he deserved.
The car with no lights, got stopped, explained the issue and they turned on their lights. They didn't give any grief or hassle. If the biker had
gone "ooops, sorry" he'd have been on his way as well. I think this is good policing. Be polite, respect the police and
they'll be nice to you when you make a little mistake.
As for the woman ......... she deserved a hell of a lot more punishment than she got
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l0rd
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| posted on 7/10/10 at 10:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by steve m
"I need to confirm it but my wife told me in Greece, there are hilarious fines that will be enforced.
Smoking whilst driving
£2600"
I actually agree with that, as its no different to someone eating, or texting/using a phone
Bring it on
What the goverment doesn't understand that the situation in Greece cannot change from one day to another. I do not mind changes but the new
measures will push the Greek population to the limits.
With everything prety much increasing in value and the basic wages dropping to £500 a month there will be constant Riots.
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l0rd
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| posted on 7/10/10 at 10:51 PM |
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Right, just confirmed the following
You are getting fined £1200-£2600 if you smoke and have chilren in the car under 12 years old.
Fair point then.
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UncleFista
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| posted on 8/10/10 at 01:22 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by steve m
I actually agree with that, as its no different to someone eating,
Hmmm, debatable.
quote:
[or texting/using a phone
no...
Where do we draw the line ?
Taking one of your hands off the wheel ? Picking your nose ? I reckon (as an ex-smoker) smoking whilst driving isn't in the same league as
holding a phone conversation or texting. Unless you drop it on your lap at 90 on the M6 
If it was only based on safety, I reckon the first thing to outlaw is kids in cars, well, maybe just mine 
Tony Bond / UncleFista
Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 8/10/10 at 03:48 AM |
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All depends on a person's competency, I've managed to open and eat a sandwich, burger, even roll a smoke while driving. However some
people can't sit and think without falling over...
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alistairolsen
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| posted on 8/10/10 at 07:29 AM |
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Unfortunately you can't make laws based on competency without some form of qualification. Being a "good driver" wont get you off a
speeding charge so you legislate to the lowest common denominator (hence 40 and 50 limits for complete morons who struggle to tie their own shoelaces)
My Build Thread
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need4speed
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| posted on 8/10/10 at 07:32 AM |
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If you drive in London (I now it happens in other places but London seems worse) cyclists seem to think red lights don't apply to them and
I'm sure if you hit one it would be the motorist that gets the blame. Police should fine more of them.
Rant over
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donny
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| posted on 8/10/10 at 08:06 AM |
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I cycle to work each day and stop at red lights etc. Last week I got so indignant at a fellow cyclist who crashed a red light that I forgot I was
clipped in and fell over. Luckily my left knee protected the bike. Biggest risk to me at the moment is squirrels. Should I try to avoid them?
Anyway - support the views above, esp about respect to the police. Once got stopped - one tail light off. I hit it a smack and it came back on. Off
on your way them sir!
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 8/10/10 at 08:36 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
having watched the program i think the cyclist got what he deserved....
Agreed, he was not fit to ride a bike and completely failed the attitude test. Some cyclists seem to think they are invulnerable and exempt from all
road laws.
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adithorp
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| posted on 8/10/10 at 09:40 AM |
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The difference between the guy on the bike and the one in the car is the guy on the bike went out with his bike knowing it had no lights and still
chose to use it. The guy in the car forgot to switch his on.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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nick205
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| posted on 8/10/10 at 09:44 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
having watched the program i think the cyclist got what he deserved....
Agreed, he was not fit to ride a bike and completely failed the attitude test. Some cyclists seem to think they are invulnerable and exempt from all
road laws.
Having watched it myself, I have to agree with this sentiment - he behaved like an idiot and got treated accordingly IMHO.
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nick205
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| posted on 8/10/10 at 09:45 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
All depends on a person's competency, I've managed to open and eat a sandwich, burger, even roll a smoke while driving. However some
people can't sit and think without falling over...
LOL, how true that is and a shame there's not a apptitude and comeptency based test to allow entry into adulthood.
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Dusty
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| posted on 8/10/10 at 10:24 AM |
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The middle aged cyclist remembered a time when you had rights, there were rules for all without fear or favour (remember that phrase?), you
didn't lie and were allowed to disagree with the police.
The young mum driver knew that she could lie, cheat and break the law and get away virtually without risk to herself under 'scrotes
rules'.
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