owelly
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| posted on 15/2/11 at 10:41 PM |
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Wi Fi router??
The village where I live has it's own WiFi network but to receive it, I have an external arial. This brings all the WiFi goodness into the house
and pokes it into my lappy via a network port.
What I'd like to do, is take the WiFi goodness and send it around the house so I can use the lappy in other rooms, use the WiFiness on my phone
etc.
I know I can't use a 'modem' type WiFi router so what do I need? I'm bewildered by all the different stuff on ebay that ranges
from £12 up to £120!
Any suggestions will be most welcome.
TIA, Owelly.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 15/2/11 at 10:45 PM |
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Is it not just a WiFi Booster you need?
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 15/2/11 at 10:48 PM |
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Linksys Wireless-G Range Expander WRE54G Wifi Repeater on eBay (end time 17-Feb-11 22:49:05 GMT)
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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owelly
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| posted on 15/2/11 at 10:48 PM |
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No. I have the tinterweb here tumbling out of my laptop but instead of plugging my network cable into my lappy, I want to plug it into a router to
send the WiFi signal around the house.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 15/2/11 at 10:49 PM |
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Called a bridge.
But the network admin will need to allow it.
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owelly
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| posted on 15/2/11 at 10:54 PM |
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There you go again with random words I've never heard of before!!!!
I won't need admin permission because I'm paying for the service to come into my house. I just want to send it around the house as well!!
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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BenTyreman
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| posted on 15/2/11 at 10:55 PM |
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Don't need a bridge or admin access. A WAP will connect to your existing wired network, obtain settings through DHCP or static settings
and allow your wireless equipment in your home to access the wired network (which is then forwarded to the village wireless).
Don't bother with a WAP, better and cheaper to use a wireless router.
[Edited on 15/2/11 by BenTyreman]
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owelly
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| posted on 15/2/11 at 10:57 PM |
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YAY! Words I almost understand!! Cheers. I'll have a look about on Ebay and places.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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BenTyreman
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| posted on 15/2/11 at 11:02 PM |
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You could also try looking for a wireless router designed for cable modems (not wireless routers with a built-in cable modem). One of these might work
out cheaper than a WAP as they are more common. Would also be better if you have more than one wireless device and your existing network device
doesn't have a router built-in.
Quick search on ebuyer and this is the cheapest:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/169923
You haven't fully explained your existing equipment, but that router should be able to emulate your existing laptop, isolating your own wireless
network from the village wireless network. The village network won't know the difference between a single laptop and the router with 10 wireless
laptops.
[Edited on 15/2/11 by BenTyreman]
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owelly
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| posted on 15/2/11 at 11:09 PM |
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are these things expensive? where's a good place to buy?
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BenTyreman
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| posted on 15/2/11 at 11:17 PM |
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See the edit above ^^^
To further clarify, it is entirely possible that your village wireless is set up such that each household can only have one network device. If your
existing aerial is just an aerial (no routing capability), then you must have a router of your own to allow multiple devices at home.
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RichardK
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| posted on 15/2/11 at 11:27 PM |
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Mmm, if it was me I'd be getting a dedicated AP (Access Point) some routers need login info before the ap mode becomes active.
My guess is that all you have is a network RJ45 socket or cable coming into your premises, that you just bang into the side of you pc/laptop? Dealt
with a few satellite installs at remote locations that are like this which can be a swine to share or distribute, but still doable.
If you like ebuyer then I'd be looking at this bad boy Linky although any from this page should
do Linky
Let me know if you need help setting anything up mate
Cheers
Rich
[Edited on 15/2/11 by RichardK]
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BenTyreman
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| posted on 15/2/11 at 11:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RichardK
Mmm, if it was me I'd be getting a dedicated AP (Access Point) some routers need login info before the ap mode becomes active.
I immediately thought of a WAP, but backpeddled slightly as it is possible owelly currently has a wireless bridge. If he is restricted by the settings
of his village network, then something with a built-in router is essential.
Which login info would the wireless router need to activate the AP mode? The entire idea of the wireless router for cable modems is that your existing
cable modem handles the login stuff, the wireless router is designed to emulate a PC. Some of the ones I've dealt with in the past even had
options to clone the MAC address off the PC to circumvent the NTL modem restrictions. They don't really care what is connected to the WAN
port.
[Edited on 15/2/11 by BenTyreman]
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RichardK
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| posted on 15/2/11 at 11:36 PM |
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I read his post as he doesn't have wifi inside his premises, perhaps a bit more detail is required. If all you have is a bit of wire coming
into the house then ideally this wants exting to be in the center of the areas that wifi is going to be used and the AP installed there to give even
coverage throughout the building.
Cheers
Rich
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BenTyreman
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| posted on 15/2/11 at 11:40 PM |
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As you say, without further info it's hard to say. A dedicated WAP will pass all traffic on the the upstream network. I have dealt with some
networks that are locked down to only allow a single PC to be connected. In this case a WAP would be unsuitable on it's own as the upstream
network would only talk to the first device (the WAP) and filter out any other traffic (the wireless laptops in your home connected through the
WAP).
A router would solve this as the upstream network would only see one "computer" (the router). The upstream network doesn't know or
care about what is hidden downstream of the wireless router.
Just to add, a wireless router would also allow fast, private wireless between your own wireless (and wired) devices. Any other setup would be
broadcast throughout the entire village.
[Edited on 15/2/11 by BenTyreman]
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RichardK
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| posted on 16/2/11 at 01:20 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by BenTyreman
quote:
Originally posted by RichardK
Mmm, if it was me I'd be getting a dedicated AP (Access Point) some routers need login info before the ap mode becomes active.
I immediately thought of a WAP, but backpeddled slightly as it is possible owelly currently has a wireless bridge. If he is restricted by the settings
of his village network, then something with a built-in router is essential.
Which login info would the wireless router need to activate the AP mode? The entire idea of the wireless router for cable modems is that your existing
cable modem handles the login stuff, the wireless router is designed to emulate a PC. Some of the ones I've dealt with in the past even had
options to clone the MAC address off the PC to circumvent the NTL modem restrictions. They don't really care what is connected to the WAN
port.
[Edited on 15/2/11 by BenTyreman]
Yeh, you're correct for a router designed for a cable modem, I was using a normal bt router, it was a Belkin Router that a customer bought as an
AP (PC World sold them it as an AP) for there house and the bloody thing wouldn't enable the AP mode until it had logged onto the adsl,
presumably it thought there was nothing to share so why bother!
Cheers
Rich
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britishtrident
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| posted on 16/2/11 at 08:50 AM |
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You can do it by internet connection sharing that is built in to windows, however if I was doing it I would use an old PC redundant running a bit of
software called IPCop that acts as a combined bridge, firewall and LAN router
Hi gain Aerial --- wifi card in PC running IP Cop ---> local network.
For the local network either use networking over mains or a wireless access point (WAP).
I would suggest a D-link DWL-G700P for the WAP have bought this type off a seller on ebay who sells as new refurbished units.
Links WAPs D-Link Wireless G AirPlus Access Point DWL-G700AP on eBay (end time 17-Feb-11 12:58:42 GMT)
IP Cop http://www.ipcop.org/
IPCop is really simple to set up and will run on any old PC
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owelly
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| posted on 16/2/11 at 09:15 PM |
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Just to clarify and please accept my apologies for un0tech terminology.....
Outside the house I have a Hi-gain wifi aerial connected to a 'Bullet' which has some sort of an ID number which the village tinterweb guy
has to enable. From the 'Bullet', I have an ethernet cable which comes into the house and into a 'power over ethernet' thingy
that is plugged into a 13amp socket. From that, the ethernet cable plugs into my lappy. The tinterweb guy said I'd need a non-modem wifi router
to be able to go wireless in the house and also explained that the ones he sells are too expensive and advised me to shop around!
I'll have a looksy at the links you guys have posted and see if it makes any more sense to me.
Many thanks for the replies.
Cheers, Owelly.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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RichardK
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| posted on 17/2/11 at 03:45 PM |
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Ask him what he sells and then shop around for specifically that, that way you know it's going to work and you also maybe able to get a little
more support from him if he's familiar with it.
Would also help us suggest a comparable item.
Cheers
Rich
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