owelly
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| posted on 24/7/11 at 10:46 PM |
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Puter won't play!
This should be an easy one for the putery types on here!
I have obtained a Dell GX270 from work and it was running fine when I unplugged it. However, the gaffer took the hard drives out of all the machines
but as I have a couple of hd already loaded with an O S I thought I could just pop one of those in and make it work. What I'm looking at is a
"SATA primary drive not found" message.
Any suggestions?
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Peteff
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| posted on 24/7/11 at 11:09 PM |
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Is it a SATA drive you've fitted and have you found it in BIOS?
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Barlidge
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| posted on 24/7/11 at 11:21 PM |
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its late but I can think of a couple of possibilities:
I'm guessing it used to have a SATA drive in it and you have have plugged in a PATA drive, this should be ok but you would need to adjust the
bios settings to recognise the new drive.
You have plugged a SATA drive into the secondary port, try changing the SATA port its plugged into to the lowest port number.
If its a SATA drive you've plugged in, the motherboard may require the drive limiting to 1.5MB/s which is just a jumper setting on the back of
the drive.
The drive you plugged in is dead? do you have another machine to test it on?
Once you get the PC to recognise the drive there is no guarantee (assuming its Windows) that the OS will boot, I've had varied success with
booting PCs with an OS configured for another machine but its worth a go.
Hope this helps.
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owelly
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| posted on 24/7/11 at 11:25 PM |
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Muh?
Sorry for being stupid, but I havn't a clue! Whilst clumsying around the 'diagnostics' thingy in bios, the Maxton hd appears as a
IDE drive, whatever that is...
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PSpirine
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| posted on 24/7/11 at 11:28 PM |
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In BIOS, check Boot sequence, and make sure your PATA (PATA = IDE) drive is enabled for booting (it'll have a number next to it if it's
enabled). To enable/disable just hit space when it's selected in the boot sequence. Lower in the menu, under drives, just make sure that
it's enabled.
One thing is that IDE drives can be set to Master or Slave (or auto select). It may be that your drive is set to Slave, and should be Master, but this
is unlikely if it was previously used as the primary OS drive.
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owelly
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| posted on 24/7/11 at 11:29 PM |
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There seems to be only one port on the motherboard for the hd to plug into. The other port has the dvd drive in it.....
I'll try tomorrow with less tiredness in my eyes.
Cheers guys.
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Madinventions
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| posted on 25/7/11 at 12:44 AM |
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Sounds like the drive you've plugged in is an IDE (aka PATA) drive, whereas the BIOS settings are looking for a SATA drive.
You need to go into the BIOS (normally press DEL or F12 during bootup) and change the setting so that it boots from your IDE drive rather than looking
for a SATA drive.
Also, if you're plugging into the same ribbon cable as the CD/DVD drive, you will need to check the jumpers on the new hard drive and the CD
drive. There will be settings such as 'Master', 'Slave', and 'CS' or 'Cable select'.
If you set both drives to 'CS' then the PC will decide which is master or slave depending on which connector you use for which device on
the ribbon cable. Normally there are blue, black, and grey connectors as shown below:
Of course, it's probably easier just to keep your CD/DVD connected to one of the motherboard ports and connect you hard drive to the other port
using a separate cable.
Hope this helps!
Ed.
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McLannahan
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| posted on 25/7/11 at 06:05 AM |
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Press F2 to get into the Dell bios, not the keys mentioned above. All your answers have been posted above but reply back if you want step by step
instructions....or indeed spare parts. I have a pie of Gx270's at work!
Repeating what Ed has correctly said but in principal there's two different hard drive connections on the 270. The hard drive used to be
connected to the newer type (sata) but you've connected the replacement to ide (pata and older type). You need to disable Bios booting from the
newer drive type and enable it to boot from your ide drive.
As said I can supply some precise step by step if needed?
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owelly
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| posted on 25/7/11 at 01:09 PM |
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Looks like I need the pillocks guide.......
I have the IDE thingy and I can't find where to switch off the sata!
Even if I go to 'SATA PRIMARY DRIVE' and switch it to off, it gives me the 'I'm not playing' message!
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britishtrident
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| posted on 25/7/11 at 02:48 PM |
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Keep in mind many versions of XP install CDs won't recognise or install from SATA drives unless you make a copy of the install CD
patched to include SATA drivers.
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McLannahan
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| posted on 25/7/11 at 07:25 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by owelly
Looks like I need the pillocks guide.......
I have the IDE thingy and I can't find where to switch off the sata!
Even if I go to 'SATA PRIMARY DRIVE' and switch it to off, it gives me the 'I'm not playing' message!
No problem! I'll boot one up and take some screenshots!
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owelly
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| posted on 28/7/11 at 05:59 PM |
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Righto...
Set-up:
Drive Configuration
SATA Primary Drive....OFF
Primary Master Drive....Hard Drive
Primary Slave .....OFF
Secondary Master Drive...OFF
Secondary Slave Drive....OFF
IDE Drive UDMA...On.
Hard-Disk Drive Sequence
1.System BIOS boot devices
2.USB device (not installed)
Boot Sequence
<Ticked>1.Hard Disk Drive C:
<Ticked>2.Diskette drive
<Ticked>3.CD-ROM Device (not installed)
<Ticked>4.Integrated NIC (disabled)
Boot Device Menu:>
6.IDE Drive Diagnostics:
Primary SATA. Drive 0:No device
Secondary SATA. Drive 0: No device
Primary IDE. Drive 0: Maxtor 2B020H1
So that's what I'm looking at at the moment! I have been clattering about in the BIOS so goodness knows what else I've fecked-up!
Cheers for any help
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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McLannahan
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| posted on 15/8/11 at 09:42 AM |
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"http://locostbuilders.co.uk/photos.php?action=gal&user=McLannahan&folder=Owelly Dell"
Hope that helps - Have u2'd you too with some instructions. I'll leave this GX270 powered up this week if you need more images/help!
All the best
[Edited on 15/8/11 by McLannahan]
Copy and paste the link. Stupidly inserted a space in the folder title and I'm bugg'd if I'm doing all that uploading and naming
again ! 
[Edited on 15/8/11 by McLannahan]
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