owelly
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 10:29 AM |
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Who can close a road?
As far as I can glean, the BiB can close a road but any other agencies need a Temporary Restriction Notice/Order. So how can council snow clearing
contractors build snow walls to close off roads? They say its so they can clear the roads quicker without other road users ad its to stop folks
driving on dangerous roads but the A169 has been clwar aprt from the snow road blocks all night. Still, the contractors are on overtime....
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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JoelP
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 10:56 AM |
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You are allowed to clear obstructions anyway. They probably just figure that most people won't !
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owelly
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 11:04 AM |
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The snow walls are built with diggers and are over 12 feet tall!!
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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Benzine
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 11:11 AM |
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adithorp
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 11:11 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by owelly
The snow walls are built with diggers and are over 12 feet tall!!
So how do you know the road is clear if youcan't go along it?
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
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owelly
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 11:24 AM |
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Because I work at a RAF base in the middle of the 'closed' road and have to wait for the diggers to let e out!!
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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lsdweb
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 11:58 AM |
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Fire and Rescue Service, probably Ambulance too (not relevant to your particular question I know).
Local Authority may have emergency powers in certain circumstances.
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snapper
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 12:20 PM |
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Fylingdales?
Call the Mod Plods
I eat to survive
I drink to forget
I breath to pi55 my ex wife off (and now my ex partner)
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Peteff
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 12:27 PM |
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The highways agency can close the motorway in the event of an accident or emergency.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Agriv8
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 12:40 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by owelly
Because I work at a RAF base in the middle of the 'closed' road and have to wait for the diggers to let e out!!
I would be on the phone to the council emergency planning Dept. What would happen if there was an Major incident and they needed to get ambulance and
god knows what else to you ! would they also have to wait for a digger to remove the Snow Bank ?
Atb Agiv8
Taller than your average Guy !
Management is like a tree of monkeys. - Those at the top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. BUT Those at the bottom look up and see a
tree full of a*seholes .............
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 12:52 PM |
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Get the MoD to phone the contractor and tell them that they are going to have to pay all your wages, at double time, until you can all get out. That
will shift it!
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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owelly
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 12:58 PM |
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The MoD Plod have little interest as they don't want to be looking after folks who get stuck anywhere near the camp. Likewise, the locsl council
are playing the old 'health & safety' card. The camp has its own fire section and medical centre and the use of a helipad should
tgings get desperate so the obly real problem is the 40 mile detour when you know that any half decent 4x4 or car with suitable tyres will be able to
get through.
Grrrrr!!
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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ashg
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 01:07 PM |
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Can't you just get reme to go down there with their diggers
Anything With Tits or Wheels Will cost you MONEY!!
Haynes Roadster (Finished)
Exocet (Finished & Sold)
New Project (Started)
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owelly
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 01:30 PM |
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No REME on our radar site.... I spose they could bend the radar beam down a bit....
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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mcerd1
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 02:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by owelly
No REME on our radar site.... I spose they could bend the radar beam down a bit....
I like your thinking 
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kipper
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 04:20 PM |
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road closure
How about Auto 66 motor club????? they close the road at Scarborough for the road races
Denis.
Where did that go?
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matt_gsxr
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 05:20 PM |
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Is this your relevant council?
Seems like they have some rules.
http://www.northyorks.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=3252
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owelly
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 05:40 PM |
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Good find and in a link off a link on that page is a list of the current TROs. There is one for the A169 was issued and cancelled two hours after the
road reopened!!
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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jps
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 07:05 PM |
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I could be wrong but i think police can control traffic but not shut a road. Subtle difference. I think police probably have specific powers relying
to crime scenes which will be more far reaching than roads alone, but most likely the general public tend to mainly come across that on roads more
than anywhere else.
I think that councils are most likely to be the main agency who 'close roads', although there will be specific legal abilities for other
agencies to do so in certain locations, eg there is a road in my village that mod close, with gates, when they are live firing on the ranges,
similarly the legislation which made the Birmingham SuperPrix possible...
Interestingly police powers to control traffic can be accredited to other agencies, hence in Essex it is possible to practically 'close
roads' for cycle racing, although in reality it is not a closed road, just controlled traffic...
[Edited on 22/1/13 by jps]
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jps
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 07:07 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by snapper
Fylingdales?
Call the Mod Plods
MOD police don't have jurisdiction over civvies do they?
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owelly
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 07:14 PM |
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The MoD Plod have the same powers as civvy plod and it depends on their CO or other gadgy in charge if they're allowed off camp to play. It
could be said that they have more powers as most of them have big guns tucked under their arms or strapped to their sides!
It appears that the Highways Authority allow the contractors to close the roads and then sometimes issue a TRO in retrospect....
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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catman
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 07:24 PM |
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we do quite a bit of tree felling on highway verges. I am lead to believe it depends on the class of roads as to who can close them and for how long.
you can close a B road for up to 5 mins any longer and it would cause problems to emergency services
Ed
caged supersix
Carbon/GRP
210 bhp silvertop
190 lbft
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 22/1/13 at 08:34 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jps
Interestingly police powers to control traffic can be accredited to other agencies, hence in Essex it is possible to practically 'close
roads' for cycle racing, although in reality it is not a closed road, just controlled traffic...
I'd have thought most of the closures would come under this
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