Mark Allanson
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| posted on 28/6/07 at 08:04 PM |
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Dead PC?
Swithched on my pc tonight and it hung on startup, just a mouse pointer and hourglass on a black screen. No amout of rebooting would get ANYTHING on
the screens, no BIOS - nothing.
I reset the CMOS, removed all the PCI cards, DVD drives, hard drives in sequence, replaced the AGP graphics with an old PCI vid card to test, and
still nothing.
I am now down to either the MB, processorr or memory.
The system is a ASUS A7N8X-X with a socket A 3200 AMD with 3x512m of PC3200.
Is there anything I have missed, or any suggestions before I increase my overdraft again
Thanks in advance
Mark
(At least the laptop is still working!)
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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rayward
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| posted on 28/6/07 at 08:09 PM |
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could be the power supply, quite cheap to replace.
maybe worth a shot
Ray
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blakep82
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| posted on 28/6/07 at 08:18 PM |
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my mate's did something similar. turned out it was some fairly major corruption of windows. something to do with a java update it think
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 28/6/07 at 08:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rayward
could be the power supply, quite cheap to replace.
maybe worth a shot
Ray
I upgraded the power supply about 3 months ago, does anyone know how to test with a basis multimeter? Just so i can remove it from the list of
suspects
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andyharding
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| posted on 28/6/07 at 08:27 PM |
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No way to test it for sure but I'd guess on the PSU too.
If it's memory the motherboard will usually beep at you.
Are you a Mac user or a retard?
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 28/6/07 at 08:40 PM |
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I have all the LEDs illuminated on the MB, and the power light is shining bright, but I suppose that doesn't prove anything, I will try the old
supply to see if that makes any difference
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coozer
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| posted on 28/6/07 at 08:45 PM |
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Hey Blakep82! your crap notice of my machine is WRONG!
Get rid of it, we have enough crap from the government spying on us
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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RichardK
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| posted on 28/6/07 at 08:47 PM |
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Prob main board , if memor processor you should at least get a bios screen and plenty of beeps.
Tried with only video card installed no mem, processor or disks etc in?
Regards
Rich
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Catpuss
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| posted on 28/6/07 at 08:59 PM |
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With duff memory you should get lots of beeps as said. Missing graphics card is something like long beeps generally.
If the lights on the mobo come on then the PSU is *probably* OK. CPU could be shagged, but if its a cheapish mobo look at the capacitors, espesh
around the CPU. If the tops are swolled (usually a slight dome shape on top) its to good chance that they have failed. I've seen countless Dell
mobos have this problem. All looks perfect, then one day it either just shuts down sparodically then gives up or just doesn't boot one morning.
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ecosse
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| posted on 28/6/07 at 09:16 PM |
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This will help with testing the PSU
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/power/sup/funcVoltages-c.html
And if you haven't already, you could try reseating the CPU
Although it does sound like Mobo failure I'm afraid
Cheers
Alex
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CaptainJosh
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| posted on 28/6/07 at 09:17 PM |
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Did you turn it off and on again?
(couldn't help it)
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flak monkey
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| posted on 28/6/07 at 09:23 PM |
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So its not even showing the bios screen? But you are getting a cursor, so the graphics card is working at least?
As others have said, the bios will beep a series of beeps for std faults, such as GPU, RAM and CPU failures.
I would hazard a guess that the MB has died, not uncommon, but its usually as the result of something else such as a PSU blowing, and then they
usually take the MB, CPU and RAM with them. It could be that the bios has been totally corrupted...
However if its getting to loading windows, then i would suggest its a corruption of a major windows file.
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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flak monkey
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| posted on 28/6/07 at 09:25 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coozer
Hey Blakep82! your crap notice of my machine is WRONG!
Get rid of it, we have enough crap from the government spying on us
If you are that bothered you had better stop surfing the net  It displays freely available info which is broadcast by every computer connected to
any network. Its really very easy to get the info, and any server you connect to needs it to be able to transfer data to you. Also works well at
scaring people who think they are being spied on  .
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 28/6/07 at 09:38 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
So its not even showing the bios screen? But you are getting a cursor, so the graphics card is working at least?
As others have said, the bios will beep a series of beeps for std faults, such as GPU, RAM and CPU failures.
I would hazard a guess that the MB has died, not uncommon, but its usually as the result of something else such as a PSU blowing, and then they
usually take the MB, CPU and RAM with them. It could be that the bios has been totally corrupted...
However if its getting to loading windows, then i would suggest its a corruption of a major windows file.
David
David,
It only got a cursor on the first attempted boot, but I suppose that does suggest that the vid is OK, the lack of boot is still present with the hard
drive disconnected so that probably excludes a window problem!
I will test the power supply with the old one tomorrow, and I have an 1800athlon to check the processor, and I could remove the RAM and replace one
at a time to test them. I still suspect the MB, but stand to be corrected
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blakep82
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| posted on 28/6/07 at 09:45 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
quote:
Originally posted by coozer
Hey Blakep82! your crap notice of my machine is WRONG!
Get rid of it, we have enough crap from the government spying on us
If you are that bothered you had better stop surfing the net It displays freely available info which is broadcast by every computer connected to
any network. Its really very easy to get the info, and any server you connect to needs it to be able to transfer data to you. Also works well at
scaring people who think they are being spied on .
David
yep, and also every server that has any picture linked to on here has yours, and my, and everyones info sent to it. i can't see your info, and
its nothing to do with the government, so calm down...
yes, i'd have to say major corruption of a windows file too, if it manages to load part of windows then its not memory, mother board should be
working ok for it to load as far as it does, same fromCPU, and power supply.
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 28/6/07 at 09:59 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
quote:
Originally posted by coozer
Hey Blakep82! your crap notice of my machine is WRONG!
Get rid of it, we have enough crap from the government spying on us
If you are that bothered you had better stop surfing the net It displays freely available info which is broadcast by every computer connected to
any network. Its really very easy to get the info, and any server you connect to needs it to be able to transfer data to you. Also works well at
scaring people who think they are being spied on .
David
yep, and also every server that has any picture linked to on here has yours, and my, and everyones info sent to it. i can't see your info, and
its nothing to do with the government, so calm down...
yes, i'd have to say major corruption of a windows file too, if it manages to load part of windows then its not memory, mother board should be
working ok for it to load as far as it does, same fromCPU, and power supply.
I really don't think it is windows as the hard drive is now in a different room!
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blakep82
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| posted on 28/6/07 at 10:05 PM |
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^oh, er, right. ok then....
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britishtrident
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| posted on 29/6/07 at 06:32 AM |
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In order check
Cooling Fan
Memory --- cut it down to one chunk and try booting
Processor
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 29/6/07 at 08:33 PM |
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All now working, albeit with an athlon 1800 instead of the 3200 which seems to be totally dead.
I checked through the temperature log, and it never went above 36°C, just seems to have expired like a lamp bulb.
At least its working, if at a slower speed.
Thanks to everyone who helped, much appreciated
Thanks
Mark
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