Jezzer99
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| posted on 21/5/08 at 08:34 PM |
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Buying a donor vs. buying spares
I'm trying to weigh up whether to buy a complete donor or go to a scrap yard and buy the bits I need. I know about the Q registration issues of
building from bits but interested in what other people thing is a good way to go?
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Miks15
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| posted on 21/5/08 at 08:41 PM |
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well i bought my donor for £155 and bits i dont need that ive sold have already come to about £130 and should easily make alot more back so ive
baiscally got a free engine, diff, steering, axles etc
Edit to say i dont know how easily Sierra bits are to sell though, my BMW bits went relatively quickly
[Edited on 21/5/08 by Miks15]
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Jezzer99
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| posted on 21/5/08 at 08:43 PM |
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What sort of Beemer? what sort of locost are you building?
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big_wasa
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| posted on 21/5/08 at 08:44 PM |
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If you can get the donor home and move it on without the wheels on it you will get some very cheap running gear.
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Miks15
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| posted on 21/5/08 at 08:46 PM |
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its a E36 316.
Its self designed based on both book and haynes so mabye not the easiest way to go.
Im taking a chance hoping mine will go smoothly
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smart51
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| posted on 21/5/08 at 09:27 PM |
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I bought parts. No donor to strip. No shell to get rid of. Keeps the peace at home. Not the cheapest way but it is the easiest. And you can buy
parts reconditioned.
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RK
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| posted on 21/5/08 at 10:45 PM |
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I bought all my parts separately, except for the seat runners for the drivers' side, and those were from the donor. That's all that came
from the donor, which was, in the end, not at all suitable (and still cost me $900 to buy). This is a VERY expensive project if you are in North
America, particularly Canada, unless you are a mechanic who owns a garage, and can fabricate things and weld. Over there, a good, useful Sierra donor
will save you a lot of time and money. You can always upgrade parts to new later. Just my 2 Canadian cents (that's about 1p).
[Edited on 21/5/08 by RK]
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nathanharris1987
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| posted on 21/5/08 at 10:47 PM |
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if you take somthing appart you have some idea of how it goes back together.
Plus stripping a donor was one of the highlights of my build so far, blood sweat and cursing when you couldnt get bits off set alight to my hat
(rip) mouth full of petrol.
Plus you got a known source of all your bits for SVA.
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skodaman
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| posted on 22/5/08 at 02:58 AM |
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Get a donor. I didn't and deeply regret it. Use all the donor instruments, wiring and wheels etc. then upgrade as and when u want.
Skodaman
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eznfrank
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| posted on 22/5/08 at 06:31 AM |
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You don't say what you are actually building but I bought a donor package from "Sierra Shack" - NTDWM.
The advantage was that I got all the rear end of an xr4x4 and the front end of a xr4i which means I got the 3.62 LSD etc. Just gives you a bit of
flexibility I guess.
Main point for me though was that although I have plenty of room, getting a truck down to my garage to pick up the shell would be impossible.
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Guinness
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| posted on 22/5/08 at 06:35 AM |
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I went the donor route. I bought a Sierra off ebay for £75. Stripped everything down, partly cause i didn't know whether to go car engined or
bike engined (don't tell hellfire), partly because it was educational (seeing how things come apart helps you visualise how they go back
together) and partly to sell the rest on ebay!
I bought a Sapphire for £75, it had £15 of fuel in the tank (even though the gauge was reading empty), £25 of tax left on it, sold the gearbox for
£25, got a case of beer for the engine, sold the lights for £17, kept, re-used or scrapped the rest.
The list of parts you need / can re-use is pretty long:-
front hubs, brakes, steering rack (manual), steering column, the steering wheel (for sva), column shroud thingy, stalks, handbrake, all the fuses out
the box, all the relays you can find (inc the flasher one above the column but behind the clocks), the bulbs out of the lamps, any nuts, bolts etc
that aren't rusted up, prop shaft, diff, rear drive shafts, rear brakes, brake master cylinder (not ABS). Wheels to roll the car round on.
There are four advantages of using a donor that I can see, firstly cost. You have said that this isn't such an issue to you, but adding all that
lot up is going to cost you a lot more than £75. Secondly, delivery. All the parts you need are there in one package. Think of the number of trips to
breakers yards / ebay / motor factors to pick that lot up. Thirdly, loads of projects get abandoned due to people not seeing progress during the
build. My advice would be get the chassis to the stage where you can get it on it's wheels and get it rolling up and down the road (with your
mates pushing you) as quickly as possible. If you can't get it to a rolling chassis stage because you are waiting to afford / delivery on a new
set of £500 alloys & tyres you can loose heart with it. Finally ease of getting parts. I can go along to Halfords or any motor factors, and give
them my donor reg, and they can tell me it was a 1.6l '92 reg Pinto powered Sierra. I can get replacement brake discs, pads etc without any
bother about sizes etc etc.
All IMHO.
Oh yeah, and because I'm tight / skint, I'm still running round on the donor alloys!
<<<--------- See
HTH
Mike
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02GF74
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| posted on 22/5/08 at 09:32 AM |
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there are reasons to go both but I would go donor route. That way you will have all the bits so don;t need to go searching for some unusual bolt or
spring ir brake plate or ..... plus as you dismantle it, you will have seen how it all fits together.
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Bluemoon
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| posted on 22/5/08 at 09:56 AM |
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Dooner root for me too... Cheapest option, but you'd better like cleaning rust/dirt of the parts.
You could buy all new parts and get a new reg plate.. This will be expensive...
Personally I like the idea of knowing it all worked before you took it apart....
Cheers
Dan
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eccsmk
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| posted on 22/5/08 at 12:47 PM |
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i got myself a donor
wrong diff
didnt use the engine
wrong brakes
but i paid £60 for the car and weighed it in for £90
altho i spent about 3 times that on the correct parts doh!!
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RK
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| posted on 23/5/08 at 03:24 AM |
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Well, the idea is that you don't get the WRONG donor! As I ended up doing! I had no idea the whole locost thing is pretty much impossible where
I live. But what's money for? Yes, I know it's that yearly trip with the other half to Italy etc etc, but besides that?
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chris_smith
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| posted on 23/5/08 at 07:04 AM |
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i went parts direction and wish i hadnt, you spend more time and money trying to find cheap bits for here and there, i know wish id gone the donor
route
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