agree with cita,the USA are on our side even if there is a hidden agenda somewhere,when WW3 starts,as soon it must,i know who i want on my side of the fence!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4386132.stm
????
Meaning?
quote:
Originally posted by Cita
????
Meaning?
Piss on America as much as you like Steve.
I still prefer it above A LOT of other country's where things happen that never come in the news.
Cheers Cita
quote:
Originally posted by Cita
Piss on America as much as you like Steve.
I still prefer it above A LOT of other country's where things happen that never come in the news.
Cheers Cita
Steve,my original post was for the names and place names....it was not a political statment ,just some light hearted fun,we need as much of that as we
can get these days!
agree with cita,the USA are on our side even if there is a hidden agenda somewhere,when WW3 starts,as soon it must,i know who i want on my side of the
fence!
please tell me what words I used to say that it was a dig at the usa. I just posted a link to a haloween story and expressed no opinion at all.
Its obviously in your own minds whatever negativity you put to the story.
As a different view, you thought that the story you posted was funny, when it was actually a story about racism.
atb
steve
[Edited on 31/10/05 by steve_gus]
Dont turn things around Steve.
Conrodsky explicetly asked to look at the names and places and that was funny,regardless the content.
Can you remember Steve when you last posted a "positive" BBC or any other news agency link about the USA?
You remind me of that Belgian singer we had, Jacques Brel (in Flanders we called him Brol=synonim for rubbish)
He used to say how he loved Flanders but could not let one chance go to insult the Flemish people.
It was a "love-hate affair"...as the newspapers called it...my a"#e !!
"Only in Saoudi-Arabia" or "Only in Pakistan" should show some very horrible things to!
Heck,even "Only in Belgium" would give some nasty laughs
Cheers Cita
quote:
Originally posted by Cita
Can you remember Steve when you last posted a "positive" BBC or any other news agency link about the USA?
Silly Laws
Some of these have been repealed in the last few years but many are still in force and still funny
Connersville, Wisconsin - It's illegal for a man to shoot a gun when his female partner has an orgasm.
Until 1936, it was illegal for men to wear topless bathing suits in New York.
A small town in Texas recently passed a law forbidding neckties. Persons wearing them will recieve a warning ticket the first time and a fine there
after. 6-25-97
Until 1994 it was legal in Arkansas to grab a womans breast on a public street even if you did not know her.
It is legal for women to go topless on New York City subways as long as someone does not complain.
Frankfort, Kentucky, makes it against the law to shoot off a policeman's tie.
A county in California passed a resolution requiring a farmer to put a up privacy fence because his cows' udders were to large.
Horses are forbidden to eat fire hydrants in Marshalltown, Iowa.
Idaho state law makes it illegal for a man to give his sweetheart a box of candy weighing less than fifty pounds.
Newcastle, Wyoming - Couples are prohibited from having sex in a butcher's walk-in freezer.
In Denver it is unlawful to lend your vacuum cleaner to your next-door neighbor.
In Devon, Connecticut, it is unlawful to walk backwards after sunset.
Fairbanks, Alaska - It is illegal for two moose to have sex on the city sidewalks.
In Greene, New York, it is illegal to eat peanuts and walk backwards on the sidewalks when a concert is on.
In Lexington, Kentucky, it's illegal to carry an ice cream cone in your pocket.
In Memphis, Tennessee, it is illegal for a woman to drive a car unless there is a man either running or walking in front of it waving a red flag to
warn approaching motorists and pedestrians.
In Ohio, if you ignore an orator on Decoration day to such an extent as to publicly play croquet or pitch horseshoes within one mile of the
speaker's stand, you can be fined $25.00.
In Pocatello, Idaho, a law passed in 1912 provided that "The carrying of concealed weapons is forbidden, unless same are exhibited to public
view."
In Seattle, Washington, it is illegal to carry a concealed weapon that is over six feet in length.
In Tennessee, it is illegal to shoot any game other than whales from a moving automobile.
In Tulsa, Oklahoma, it is against the law to open a soda bottle without the supervision of a licensed engineer.
It is against the law for a monster to enter the corporate limits of Urbana, Illinois.
It is illegal to drive more than two thousand sheep down Hollywood Boulevard at one time.
It is illegal to say "Oh, Boy" in Jonesboro, Georgia.
It is Texas law that when two trains meet each other at a railroad crossing, each shall come to a full stop, and neither shall proceed until the other
has gone.
It's illegal in Wilbur, Washington, to ride an ugly horse.
Cleveland, Ohio - Women are not allowed to wear patent leather shoes because they might reflect up her dress.
Kansas state law requires pedestrians crossing the highways at night to wear tail lights.
Kirkland, Illinois, law forbids bees to fly over the village or through any of its streets.
Minors in Kansas City, Missouri, are not allowed to purchase cap pistols; they may buy shotguns freely, however.
New Hampshire law forbids you to tap your feet, nod your head, or in any way keep time to the music in a tavern, restaurant, or cafe.
Texas law forbids anyone to have a pair of pliers in his possession.
The Arkansas legislature passed a law that states that the Arkansas River can rise no higher than to the Main Street bridge in Little Rock.
The City of Palo Alto, in its official description of parking lot standards, specifies the grade of wheelchair access ramps in terms of centimeters of
rise per foot of run. A compromise...
The state law of Pennsylvania prohibits singing in the bathtub.
There is a Massachusetts law requiring all dogs to have their hind legs tied during the month of April.
Virginia law forbids bathtubs in the house; tubs must be kept in the yard.
It is illegal to take more than 2 baths a month within Boston confines.
In Calgary there is a by-law that is still on the books that requires businesses within the city to provide rails for tying up horses.
It is against the law to fish from horseback in Utah.
In Bexley, Ohio Ordinance number 223, of 09/09/19 prohibits the installation and usage of slot machines in outhouses.
No one may catch fish with his bare hands in Kansas.
Harthahorne, Oklahoma City Ordinance, Section 363, states that it shall be unlawful to put any hypnotized person in a display window.
These excerpts are from the book "Loony Laws" by Robert Pelton (Walker; $8.95):
In Ottumwa, Iowa, "It is unlawful for any male person, within the corporate limits of the (city), to wink at any female person with whom he is
unaquainted."
In Los Angeles, you cannot bathe two babies in the same tub at the same time.
Ames, Iowa - A husband is not allowed to take more than three swallows of beer while in bed after having sex.
In Zion, Ill., it is illegal for anyone to give lighted cigars to dogs, cats, and other domesticated animals kept as pets.
In Carmel, N.Y., a man can't go outside while wearing a jacket and pants that do not match.
In Gary, Ind., persons are prohibited from attending a movie house or other theater and from riding a public streetcar within four hours of eating
garlic.
In Miami, it's illegal for men to be seen publicly in any kind of strapless gown.
In St. Louis, it's illegal to sit on the curb of any city street and drink beer from a bucket.
In Detroit, couples are banned from making love in an automobile unless the act takes place while the vehicle is parked on the couple's own
property.
In Hartford, Conn., you aren't allowed to cross a street while walking on your hands.
In Michigan, a woman isn't allowed to cut her own hair without her husband's permission.
In Baltimore, it's illegal to throw bales of hay from a second-story window within the city limits. It's also illegal to take a lion to the
movies.
In Nicholas County, W. Va., no member of the clergy is allowed to tell jokes or humorous stories from the pulpit during a church service.
In California, animals are banned from mating publicly within 1,500 feet of a tavern, school, or place of worship.
Carlsbad, N.M. - It's legal for couples to have sex in a parked vehicle during lunch break as long as the car has drawn curtains.
In Carrizozo, N.M., it's forbidden for a female to appear unshaven in public (includes legs and face).
In Los Angeles, a man is legally entitled to beat his wife with a leather belt or strap, but the belt can't be wider than 2 inches, unless he has
his wife's consent to beat her with a wider strap.
Willodale, Oregon - It's against the law for a husband to talk dirty during sex.
In Kentucky, "No female shall appear in a bathing suit on any highway within this state unless she be escorted by at least two officers or unless
she be armed with a club"
An amendment to the above legislation: "The provisions of this statuate shall not apply to females weighing less than 90 pounds nor exceeding 200
pounds, nor shall it apply to female horses."
Im not anti american. I even took my wife there for our anniversary this year, and im going there again next year. Heck, ive been there over 15
times!!!!
Would you like to show me any 'weird and wonderful' section posts that have nice stories about america in them? No. Cos they wouldnt be
interesting. Its the quirky ones that get posted.
The post was as a 'strange but true' story. Many people post them, not just me. There have been a fair few anti american posters on here,
and Bush in particular gets some whacking.
Why you feel its necessary to read something deep into a link to a BBC story, with just a quippy clone of Conrods' title, and make it into a
personal issue against me, I just dont understand.
The fact that the story Conrod posted was actually about a preacher being racist hasnt worried you at all. Its a huge issue to you that I post a
strange story about america. It is OK though to have fun about a story of a couple being refused marriage by a racist preacher, cos the story had
funny names in it.
Strange priorities.
To summarise, you say its OK to laugh at Americans as they have funny names and place names, but not at the idea that people didnt recognise a hanging
when they saw one.
atb
steve
[Edited on 1/11/05 by steve_gus]
I now want to go to America to try out some of these odd laws. All except drinking beer from a bucket.
LOL, it's funny to picture why those laws needed to be on the books, and funnier still picturing the debates to get them written and approved!
I was offended by this post as well. Surely this could have happened in Canada too! I hope Steve doesn't consider us one and the same 
.
Just like I said:the Jacques Brel syndrome
I love you people honesty (I'll catch them later when nobody's looking)
So you agree Steve that you only post negative W and W about the US.
Why would nobody be interested in the "positive" weird and waco happenings of the US?
I sure as hell like to read funny stories instead of drama's and I guess everybody in his right mind do so.
Take a carefull look at all the funny stories in this section and analyze them-result: misery at the top most of it.
Some things are so obvious that there's no need to explane your view towards the content but the focus is on other items such as funny names and
places.
You make it sound that I agree with that rascist priest and that Steve is a bit beyond reasonable.
If you are anti-America just say so !!
Nothing wrong with that
I'm pro-America so what!
cheers Cita
quote:
Originally posted by MikeP
Surely this could have happened in Canada too! I hope Steve doesn't consider us one and the same
being a white english hetro male living in london i am more discriminated against than most,do i let it get me down? no i just laugh it off.
with all the faults the americans have you have to remember,without them in ww2 where would we be now?
quote:
Originally posted by andyace
quote:
Originally posted by MikeP
Surely this could have happened in Canada too! I hope Steve doesn't consider us one and the same
Sorry but isn't Canada part of America !!
You are as wrong to think of me as anti american as I would be to think of you as racist due to your thinking a story is funny rather than
unfortunate.
A hanging is a negative story.
A priest refusing to marry a mixed raced couple is a negative story. Who cares tho, cos they had funny names.
I think its time to leave this discussion, and we can both keep our wrong assessment of eachother.
atb
steve
BTW Cita
This was posted elsewhere in the forum - you might want to have a go at that poster too
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4394722.stm
mind you, it must be funny in your rules, cos the guy was called lake, it happened in a pool, and the place was 'waco'
[Edited on 1/11/05 by steve_gus]
The issue is not that negative story's with funny names and places are acceptable,the essence is that you post ONLY negative story's about
the US.
I did not see any funny names in the hanging story so why post it?
To give the impression that Americans could'nt care less if somebody is hanging dead in a garden?
Leave the trail of newsagency's that only bad news is news.This is what's pumped in our head on a daily base and that's bad enough as
it is.
I dont see why I should "have a go" as you call it, at the other posting (Lake-pond-Waco).
Like I said before Steve,you claim to like America but you sure as hell have a very strange way of showing it!!
I wonder what your posting would be if you did'nt like America
Cheers Cita
quote:
Originally posted by andyace
Sorry but isn't Canada part of America !!
meant "only in the 'states" - or was he lumping us, Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, etc in
with all 'mericans? Humph. Pluralistic ignorance happens around the globe
Pluralistic ignorance occurs when a bystander checks the reactions of other bystanders in an attempt to guage how they should be reacting to a
situation. If everyone else seems calm, they assume that an emergency must not really be an emergency. Often times, pluralistic ignorance causes an
entire group of people to remain calm in a situation that they should not because everyone checks everyone else's response, with no one person
standing out with a clear cut answer of how to act
O M G
I'm frightened to post any thing incase someone gets unpset
Why don't you go kill yourself
If you don't like what the guy is posting don't read it?
Mike
quote:
Originally posted by quattromike
Why don't you go kill yourself
If you don't like what the guy is posting don't read it?
Mike
quote:
Originally posted by quattromike
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I'm frightened to post any thing incase someone gets unpset
Mike
that phenomena happens in other situations too, and i hate people who do it. For instance, people who always agree with you?! You know that you could
say nearly any old drivel and they would laugh and agree... drives me mad.
yes I agree
Sorry 
quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
If that post was aimed at me, i'm not upset.
[Edited on 2/11/05 by Benzine]
. )
yeah, ok, I said I wouldnt add anything, but ive been thinking about this and here is my take on it.
Yeah, the 'follow the flock' thing has to be a factor. There is a certain 'run of conversation' on this board, such as all blondes
are dumb, beer is good, women are eye candy, cars are great, bush is stupid, and americans are a strange lot. So, of course posters tend to put those
kinda stories up.
Ive tried to think what posts ive made that Cita has thought makes me an American hater - cos its confusing the heck out of me. Perhaps Cita, you
could search my posts, and also under my old posting name, as I dont feel I have anything to hide. As you have been so persistent and obsessive about
this, I think you could at least back up your accusations.
Anything I may have posted about Bush doesnt count I would be the first to admit I dont find him impressive.
Its hard to say either way if Im pro or anti american, in the same way I cant say im religious or not, support Labour or not, or like America or not,
or the British or not. There are good and bad things about all aspects. If I say I like America, then Im saying I like the technology, the people (who
by and large are a whole lot more friendly than those in the UK), the 'world policeman' role, the way they helped out the UK after all else
in Europe had fallen in WW2, and many many other things. Then you would have to consider the negative things - Napalm, nuclear proliferation, gun
culture, has people living on the beach in California as they have no where to go, and ive been to a kids hospital that was really plush in San Diego
when my son broke his arm, and there is no way a poor hispanic kid with no insurance could have got in the place) . Taking it all into account, I
like america, and its people, but there is a lot wrong with it.
Likely its the same for the UK to an outsider. Heck, there probably is from where im sitting !
So, Cita, I find it hard to say with blind faith that I am pro american, in the way that you do.
There are cultural differences - I dont know how Belgians stand on that one. The american psyche is that the country is great, that they kick ass,
and are all together great guys. The UK psyche is that things are crap, we never do anything to success, and that the country underperforms. You never
see 'god bless the uk' or any such razamatazz that the americans use. So, we (or I) am much more likely to be critical, cos thats certainly
my way, and much more so the UK way than for an American. So, if im critical about the USA, its no different from the way that the brits criticise
their own country.
You will see lots of bitching on here about police and government, and about annoying neighbours. There was even the dog sex post yesterday! If I had
posted that, and it was in America, then you would have criticised it.
Again, thinking about your reaction, I wonder how you actually interpreted my post - it seems many people have seen it in different ways. I can think
of three.
1. That it was a posting of how crazy a place america can be.
2. That it was intended to show that americans are incredibly stupid.
3. That it was intended to show that americans dont care that someone is hanging from a tree.
My scenario was to show (1) within the scenario of Halloween, and was linked to a quirky clone of Conrods posting. Perhaps that coloured things a
bit.
I have no doubt that you will now tell me that I meant something completly different, with the judmental arrogance of someone thats never met me,
doesnt know me, or has some other axe to grind.
Im also left with the overwhelming feeling that how I feel about any country, or anything, has bugger all to do with you.
I would also like to take this moment to say to anyone in north america, south america, or anywhere that could have been inferred in the post, that
its not a deadly insult to your kith and kin, simply a 'crazy americans' post in the joke section of a car bulletin board. It wasnt intended
as anythign else. If you have been insulted by it, then that wasnt the intention.
If you point to New Orleans posts as being anti american, it was universally presented in the UK media that the American response was poor. There was
much criticism in america itself about the response. The BBC (essentially the state broadcaster and news agency) saw america as 'lacking'
in New Orleans. But thats a whole new subject in itself....
At the end of the day, what I think about America (which in this case wasnt negative) has nothing at all to do with you. I have the right to express
positive or negative opinions as I see fit on individual subjects. You have the right to ignore them
Im making the mistake of considering what you personally think to be important.
atb
steve
[Edited on 3/11/05 by steve_gus]
It's not "pluralistic ignorance". It could be we're crazy (Canadians and Americans), if you think it's crazy for people to
go over the top when the decorate for a celebration.
I've been told that halloween night doesn't get much attention outside of North America. Here it's very common (at least 1 or 2 homes
per neighbourhood) for somone to dress up like the victim of an axe murderer or similar. They lay down motionless at the front door. When the little
kids come to the house for trick or treat (they get given candies), the "dead" body jumps and scares the wee out of them - literally.
LMAO!
It's also common to hang ghosts, monsters or other creatures by the neck from trees on the lawn for decoration for the night. It looks good here
as most of the leaves have fallen. So it wouldn't be to far out of the ordinary for someone to hang a life size dummy from a big tree in front,
or a mechanical dummy or even a person (on a safety rig) for the same reason. Maybe a bit tastless, but not unexpected.
So a real suicide would be very likely to be admired as an extremely realistic decoration.
I find it quite ironic that the posting is entitled 'Only in america 2' and then is followed by such a ......... cant think of a good word
right now............. shite will have to do for now.......series of exchanges of views.
FFS everyone - LIGHTEN UP.
Wow this thread blew up really bad since I last read it.
As an american, was I insulted nope, I had a fake dead body hanging from my front porch. It could easily have been a real person and the only way to
tell would have been the yucky stench of decay. As far as being offended by this post or any of the only in America posts, nope, not offended.
Am I predjudice? Yup, I'm an american and I'm better than everyone else. I drive a big old honkin truck, live on a big old plot of land, I
walk around with the bigest gun I can find. And my favorite move is "Team America World Police". Watch that movie and trust me, thats the
way the world should be.
Now if you really want to make fun of another country, lets talk about Canadia-eh?- thats a backwards country with their mounties, and special type of
bacon.
*** Dont read anything into this post, just shake your head up and down and smile ***
[Edited on 3/11/05 by derf]
I've only just read through this, having a cuppa.
Cita, have you ever lived in the USA.? I mean LIVED. Not just a holiday for a week or three, but long term.
I had the opportunity to get USA citizenship after working there for a number of years, but it meant my son being born in the 'States. As my
first was born here on IoW, with exceptional facilities, the decision was easy. I could have got the citizenship thing later, still.
But, when we had a good hard look at the lifestyle, and general everyday behaviour, the decision was made to come back her to IoW. No ethnic
probs(yet!), great health system(most of the time), and no guns.(except for the drug gangs now). I know my sons are growing up as safely as I can
provide, without locking them away.
In the USA, if you haven't got money, you're nobody. The debacle after the New Orleans hurricane has proved that to a world audience.
The USA is a great place to holiday, great for doing business with, but live there, no thanks.
The Tweed coast of northern New South Wales is where I'll retire! Cudgera aka Hastings Point, quiet backwater with great fishing!
I'm not yank bashing, by and large they are very hospitable people to strangers. They are just very insular and unaware of the rest of the
world.
You'll find that most of the top engineers in the USA are european, or from one of those big islands in the South West Pacific.
quote:
Originally posted by derf
Wow this thread blew up really bad since I last read it.
As an american, was I insulted nope, I had a fake dead body hanging from my front porch. It could easily have been a real person and the only way to tell would have been the yucky stench of decay. As far as being offended by this post or any of the only in America posts, nope, not offended.
Am I predjudice? Yup, I'm an american and I'm better than everyone else. I drive a big old honkin truck, live on a big old plot of land, I walk around with the bigest gun I can find. And my favorite move is "Team America World Police". Watch that movie and trust me, thats the way the world should be.
Now if you really want to make fun of another country, lets talk about Canadia-eh?- thats a backwards country with their mounties, and special type of bacon.
*** Dont read anything into this post, just shake your head up and down and smile ***
[Edited on 3/11/05 by derf]
Team America? Excellent. you guys make me chuckle
Mike
Actually Derf, Canadian Bacon is what we in the UK call 'back bacon'. The greasy, cooked to fcuk stuff that gets served up wherever I have
been in the states is in the uk called 'streaky bacon'. Its 50% fat and low grade.
So, in that instance, canada wins
atb
steve
quote:
Originally posted by derf
Wow this thread blew up really bad since I last read it.
As an american, was I insulted nope, I had a fake dead body hanging from my front porch. It could easily have been a real person and the only way to tell would have been the yucky stench of decay. As far as being offended by this post or any of the only in America posts, nope, not offended.
Am I predjudice? Yup, I'm an american and I'm better than everyone else. I drive a big old honkin truck, live on a big old plot of land, I walk around with the bigest gun I can find. And my favorite move is "Team America World Police". Watch that movie and trust me, thats the way the world should be.
Now if you really want to make fun of another country, lets talk about Canadia-eh?- thats a backwards country with their mounties, and special type of bacon.
*** Dont read anything into this post, just shake your head up and down and smile ***
[Edited on 3/11/05 by derf]
quote:
Originally posted by steve_gus
yeah, ok, I said I wouldnt add anything, but ive been thinking about this and here is my take on it.
Yeah, the 'follow the flock' thing has to be a factor. There is a certain 'run of conversation' on this board, such as all blondes are dumb, beer is good, women are eye candy, cars are great, bush is stupid, and americans are a strange lot. So, of course posters tend to put those kinda stories up.
Ive tried to think what posts ive made that Cita has thought makes me an American hater - cos its confusing the heck out of me. Perhaps Cita, you could search my posts, and also under my old posting name, as I dont feel I have anything to hide. As you have been so persistent and obsessive about this, I think you could at least back up your accusations.
Anything I may have posted about Bush doesnt count
Its hard to say either way if Im pro or anti american, in the same way I cant say im religious or not, support Labour or not, or like America or not, or the British or not. There are good and bad things about all aspects. If I say I like America, then Im saying I like the technology, the people (who by and large are a whole lot more friendly than those in the UK), the 'world policeman' role, the way they helped out the UK after all else in Europe had fallen in WW2, and many many other things. Then you would have to consider the negative things - Napalm, nuclear proliferation, gun culture, has people living on the beach in California as they have no where to go, and ive been to a kids hospital that was really plush in San Diego when my son broke his arm, and there is no way a poor hispanic kid with no insurance could have got in the place) . Taking it all into account, I like america, and its people, but there is a lot wrong with it.
Likely its the same for the UK to an outsider. Heck, there probably is from where im sitting !
So, Cita, I find it hard to say with blind faith that I am pro american, in the way that you do.
There are cultural differences - I dont know how Belgians stand on that one. The american psyche is that the country is great, that they kick ass, and are all together great guys. The UK psyche is that things are crap, we never do anything to success, and that the country underperforms. You never see 'god bless the uk' or any such razamatazz that the americans use. So, we (or I) am much more likely to be critical, cos thats certainly my way, and much more so the UK way than for an American. So, if im critical about the USA, its no different from the way that the brits criticise their own country.
You will see lots of bitching on here about police and government, and about annoying neighbours. There was even the dog sex post yesterday! If I had posted that, and it was in America, then you would have criticised it.
Again, thinking about your reaction, I wonder how you actually interpreted my post - it seems many people have seen it in different ways. I can think of three.
1. That it was a posting of how crazy a place america can be.
2. That it was intended to show that americans are incredibly stupid.
3. That it was intended to show that americans dont care that someone is hanging from a tree.
My scenario was to show (1) within the scenario of Halloween, and was linked to a quirky clone of Conrods posting. Perhaps that coloured things a bit.
I have no doubt that you will now tell me that I meant something completly different, with the judmental arrogance of someone thats never met me, doesnt know me, or has some other axe to grind.
Im also left with the overwhelming feeling that how I feel about any country, or anything, has bugger all to do with you.
I would also like to take this moment to say to anyone in north america, south america, or anywhere that could have been inferred in the post, that its not a deadly insult to your kith and kin, simply a 'crazy americans' post in the joke section of a car bulletin board. It wasnt intended as anythign else. If you have been insulted by it, then that wasnt the intention.
If you point to New Orleans posts as being anti american, it was universally presented in the UK media that the American response was poor. There was much criticism in america itself about the response. The BBC (essentially the state broadcaster and news agency) saw america as 'lacking' in New Orleans. But thats a whole new subject in itself....
At the end of the day, what I think about America (which in this case wasnt negative) has nothing at all to do with you. I have the right to express positive or negative opinions as I see fit on individual subjects. You have the right to ignore them
Im making the mistake of considering what you personally think to be important.
atb
steve
[Edited on 3/11/05 by steve_gus]
) or he is the same arrogant,judmental b"st"#d as I am. quote:
Originally posted by Cita
The only "accusation" I made was that you post only negative things about the US.
Inspite your lenghtly reply I still see no reason why I should change that opinion.
Cheers Cita
Mike
Cita.
I know what I think. I dont need to respond further to an insignificant person whos taken 2 days to think of an answer to my last post. You still
have not provided a shred of evidence, except a nah nah ne nah nah totally lacking in substance reply after I took the time to properly explain my
position.
Its very sad that what I think or not about America means so much to you.
In fact, its astoundingly pathetic!
You are in an interesting situation now. You can either do nothing, and look like a bag of wind, or you can search through my 6,500 posts to try and
find anti american material, and look like a totally anal saddo. Or post more nah nah ne nah na and look very immature as per you last posting.
When in a hole, stop digging.
Get a grip, and move on.
[Edited on 5/11/05 by steve_gus]
Insignificant person....sanno aldo...digging a hole....
Very mature of you Steve.
It took you one day to respond to my post so two days for me is not too bad
Go through your posts and try to find a positive one about the US
You jumped on to my neck when I posted something about Ian Paisley and asked for evidence (are you related to inspector Columbo or something ?) and
after someone else posted about the Monday Club you all of sudden became dead silent.
Decide which way you want to go and dont try to eat from all the dishes!
Cheers Cita
So, it was the 'nah nah ne nah nah' option then.
I have made my position very clear, I dont have anything to add. There isnt any point, as when I do ask for you to back up what you say, you ignore
it.
The playground is all yours.
atb
steve
[Edited on 5/11/05 by steve_gus]
Whatever you say Steve
Never saw any of your positive US postings either for back-up
Thanks for having the playground
Cheers Cita
You wanna US bash, lets UK bash
1. You drive on the wrong side of the road
2. your english is horible
3. There is no such thing as a pub, its called a bar
4. guns are good where are yours?
5. Smog
6. Tea has no caffine, drink coffee
7. You tried for hundreds of years to invade france, it only a few miles away, come on, we did iraq in no time and it's on the other side of the
world
8. Hugh Grant and the prostitues
9. Problems with the Irish, we got Canada under our thumb with no problems!
10. Chavs
Yeh you brits suck....
1. You drive on the wrong side of the road
2. your english is horible
3. There is no such thing as a pub, its called a bar
4. guns are good where are yours?
5. Smog
6. Tea has no caffine, drink coffee
7. You tried for hundreds of years to invade france, it only a few miles away, come on, we did iraq in no time and it's on the other side of the
world
8. Hugh Grant and the prostitues
9. Problems with the Irish, we got Canada under our thumb with no problems!
10. Chavs
1. So what?
2. So what, we invented it, it's your interpretation that needs adjusting.
3. Pub is short for Public house, in which the bar is kept. Where do you keep the bar?
4. Our society has progressed beyond the need for mass public ownership of weapons, when will yours catch up?
5. L.A.
6. Your tea might not have caffiene in it, mine does.
7. Our cheese is already superior, and I'm not sure our factories could produce enough soap or toothpaste.
8.What did that prove? U.S prozzies are fat and ugly.
9. The Canadians laugh at you culture.
10. We have Chavs, you have the entire Mid West.
This thread is really good for a smile , thanks fellas.
But as I said, most of the top technical brains working for USA companies are from somewhere other than the good ole USA.
Sorta says somethin', don't it???
And as I recall, there were another couple of armies 'helping' the 'worlds police' in Iraq...and Afghanistan...and Kuwait...and
the Balkans...and South East Asia....and Korea. In WW2 the yanks even had a plan to let the Japs invade Australia down to the Tropic of Capricorn,
but the Aussies thought different!!!
And the USA only came into ww2 after the deal had been done, and UK traded half of its Caribbean Islands for some old hulks, and signed a commitment
to pay for all the equipment and men from the USA. Gordon Brown ended this in 1999-2000. Yes, the UK was still paying off the debt 55 years
later!!!!!
Who refused to help the UK in the Falklands?
Who killed more Brit soldiers in Kuwait than the Iraqis?
I was in the jungles with yanks, and would have felt safer in a field of vc.
But, by and large they are very hospitable to british tourists.
Still, they make fantastic big v8's that sound great at 9k rpm. And they still build rwd cars. So they must be doing something right...or so they
tell us.
lol at gazza and derf
cita ,i think you were either having a bad day when you read steves post or you just have the wrong opinion of him or your just showing your lack of
humour.
as some one else has allready said,,,chill out guys.
i have friends and family in the us and have heard some funny stories so
whilst reading the first post my thoughts whilst smiling were bloody hell how unlucky,i guess she picked the wrong day to get noticed and then,well it
was in america.
nothing else nothing more
i didnt read it as dissing the us
Ithankyou.
just trying to give a laugh
(I'm still better, Australia is full of criminals, your "english" needs to be updated, tea is for sissies, LA doesn't count, and
Canadians have small penises, my society likes to shoot things that move, Prostitutes are cheap - try an escort)
Oh yeh also : http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/06/chavscum/
[Edited on 5/11/05 by derf]
NOWT WRONG WITH TEA MATE!the rest i agree with you on
I was thinking of posting some positive stuff about the USA, but its just not interesting. Anyone wanna know what the stocks and shares are doing on
wall street?
I dont live in America - I get my info from the news. Since when did the new carry positive info about anywhere or anything!
But, on the weird and whacky side, I saw this one when searching for info about the Tay Rail bridge disaster.
Suicide Predictor
http://www.jumperpool.com/home.htm
Oh - its in the USA BTW as a lot of stuff on the net is....
to balance it out - the UK's biggest engineering disater
http://www.tts1.demon.co.uk/tay.html
wouldt mind betting that the UK experssion "Bouch(ed) job" came from that....
and one for Cita
http://www.wusatv9.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=42771
I think Cita has something in common with Elaine Stuckey
[Edited on 5/11/05 by steve_gus]
surely not wrist ache steve?!
this thread is so funny particularly derfs comments on the english
quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
surely not wrist ache steve?!
this thread is so funny
Er..Derf and Cita,
You guys wouldn't be related would you?
And you share the same family/surname of Pratt?
Straight over their heads...Whoooosh.
[Edited on 5/11/05 by Syd Bridge]
My family came from the country that almost kicked your ass in WW2 if my other country hadn't saved you. I also have some family in the country
athat didn't do a thing.
(Sweden, Germany, and the good ol' US of A)
quote:
Originally posted by Syd Bridge
Er..Derf and Cita,
You guys wouldn't be related would you?
And you share the same family/surname of Pratt
[Edited on 5/11/05 by Syd Bridge]
Cita is your real name? It can only just be a part of it. So no better than a nickname then.....
There are very few on here that use their real name and choose instead to have an alter ego.
atb
steve
quote:
Originally posted by derf
My family came from the country that almost kicked your ass in WW2 if my other country hadn't saved you. I also have some family in the country athat didn't do a thing.
(Sweden, Germany, and the good ol' US of A)
Cita,
Yes, my real name is Bridge, and the Syd is a nickname which some of the locals thought to be humourous, and it stuck.
As for Rorty, he would be the first to admit that 'once a paddy, always a paddy'. ( )
Why I had a break? Not what Rorty said, but more the lack of support from some forum members who know me personally, have been in my home, and in my
workshop. I now know my friends, and those who think I can be of benefit to them.
You never said if your real name is Pratt?
And Derf, you anywhere near Toms River? I'll be over there in the new year.
Syd.
quote:
Originally posted by Syd Bridge
Cita,
Yes, my real name is Bridge, and the Syd is a nickname which some of the locals thought to be humourous, and it stuck.
As for Rorty, he would be the first to admit that 'once a paddy, always a paddy'. (
Why I had a break? Not what Rorty said, but more the lack of support from some forum members who know me personally, have been in my home, and in my workshop. I now know my friends, and those who think I can be of benefit to them.
You never said if your real name is Pratt?
And Derf, you anywhere near Toms River? I'll be over there in the new year.
Syd.
Ha, my real name is close to what i use, derf=Fred
Would I not be right in saying the the nazi's were on the retreat before the great US of A joined in with the brits?
It's o.k., I think I got away with it.
quote:
Originally posted by quattromike
Would I not be right in saying the the nazi's were on the retreat before the great US of A joined in with the brits?
No the nazis were starting to show their weaknesses, but by no means were they retreating when we joined, in fact in most places in western europe
they were increasing their fortifications, and digging in, in anticipation of an allied invasion. Their lines were getting thin, and they were using
more supplies and men on the eastern front, but the ruskies would not have been able to do much without the gremans losing the beaches at normandy,
and the subsequent and massive influx of English and American troops that were crossing the channel. Once we (US & UK) had a good foothold in
france, we basically fanned out fighting the germans to the west and north. There was a bunch of fighting all over the place, lots of stuff was blown
up, bombs were droped, and then we got to berlin and Hitler put a bullet in his head.
And that is WW2 acording to me...
Incidently I'm waiting to find out if I get to jump next year for the aniversary of the D-day invasion. If you didn't know I'm in the
US Army, and I jump from planes for a living.
[Edited on 7/11/05 by derf]
The British and their allies were also fighting the Japnese in the pacific. British interests in India, hong kong, australia, the philipenes etc.
There was a plan to pull out of asia and concentrate on Europe is the Americans didn't join in. Something that the Australians were not to happy
with once they heard.
There is a point of view that because the British and Americans were fighting in each other's wars that they could each have won their own half
of the war on their own. Various Americans have told me that we would have lost without them but they would have won without us.
quote:
Originally posted by smart51
Various Americans have told me that we would have lost without them but they would have won without us.
quote:
Originally posted by smart51
The British and their allies were also fighting the Japnese
Edited out.
Total waste of time.
USA came to europe on a purely monetary basis. Without them it just would have taken a lot longer.
[Edited on 8/11/05 by Syd Bridge]
Well said that man.
Syd that isn't necessarily true!
Yes a great deal of credit was taken away from those that did the deed!
Yes the commonwealth were in all battle arenas, and not just the Americans!
Yes the British with the aid of it's allies had stopped the advance of the Germans, except on the Russian front!
Yes it is very annoying when one ally joins the party late and it "seems" they are hogging all the limelight!
Yes we acheived many other things, but at what cost?
The facts are that without American help the war would have gone on for a great deal longer and it is not guaranteed that the result would have been
the same.
For years before they joined into the war the Americans had been supplying us with armaments on a lease or return basis. Meaning that what we lost
were not paid for. So without their help who could say what the outcome would have been?
It would be equally wrong to say from either side that they alone won the war.
There are ignorants and bigots all over the world.
Whatever happens we will disagree about some things.
Let's just be greatful we are in a position to be able to express our ignorance!
We share a language with North America, but our cultures are different.
No offence intended to any!
[Edited on 7/11/05 by Spyderman]
Wow, WWII has sure changed since I was a kid. England stood alone against Germany? Not in our history books.
I must have misunderstood what happened at Dunkirk - despite that retreat, Britian would have re-invaded Europe on it's own? If the Germans had
succeeded against the Soviets (who held out partly thanks to the US aid), how much armor would Britian have been facing when it was ready?
This is the wrong time of year to be ungrateful for anyone's contribution to that war.
I'm not sure how my penis size got into this derf, but let me remind you Canada is a cold country which can cause considerable shrinkage. I
think you're still bitter over your failed war of 1812, you imperialist dog!
As to the America view of England, Archie Bunker summed it up best many years ago !
I just wanted to let the world know that my penis is larger than any canadians, probably due to the cold and the shrinkage effect. I got balls of
steel buddy.
As far as WW2 I think we can all agree that without US help you Brits couldnt have won. Yes in the Pacific there were lots of countries fighting,
together, and we all kicked ass.
If you want to talk about a good war lets talk about the US revolution, We kicked ass, big time. A few "colonists" kicked a major world
power to the floor and told them to go home. Who'd a thunk that could have happened.
Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who...
quote:
Originally posted by MikeP
Wow, WWII has sure changed since I was a kid. England stood alone against Germany? Not in our history books.
Ok I insulted England again with my comment about the revolutionary war (not sure what name you use for it), anyone want to move to that war now?
conniving bastards...
Ok
Dunkerque was may 1940.
USA joined the war after pearl harbor in Dec 1941
Thats an 18 month or so gap whe UK and its non american allies fought 'alone'.
atb
steve
quote:
Originally posted by derf
Ok I insulted England again with my comment about the revolutionary war (not sure what name you use for it), anyone want to move to that war now?
quote:
Originally posted by derf
If you want to talk about a good war lets talk about the US revolution.
quote:
Originally posted by derf
I just wanted to let the world know that my penis is larger than any canadians, probably due to the cold and the shrinkage effect. I got balls of steel buddy.
As far as WW2 I think we can all agree that without US help you Brits couldnt have won. Yes in the Pacific there were lots of countries fighting, together, and we all kicked ass.
If you want to talk about a good war lets talk about the US revolution, We kicked ass, big time. A few "colonists" kicked a major world power to the floor and told them to go home. Who'd a thunk that could have happened.
I find it ironic that some guy rekons that he needs too prove that a nation the size of america has achived more that a nation the size of the UK.
you just have to look at a world atlas at the two countrys and think of their achivements and then you realise how special the UK is.
Just what I think
Mike
yeah - we have the population of a little greater than California, and we have a land mass the same as the state of Oregon. USA outnumbers us in
people by 6 to one and many times the land mass.
But what have we acheived?
Take aircraft for example.
USA discovered the principles of flight.
But the UK invented the Jet Engine, Radio was developed in the uk (by an italian!) radar was invented in the UK and jet airliners were first made in
the UK (comet). Pnuematic tyres were invented by a scotsman, John Boyd Dunlop. We invented television, so in flight entertainments covered too. If the
plane has disk brakes, yep, we did those too.
We developed the bessemer process, so any steel parts came from british processes too.
We invented the computer.
We still have the only successfult vertical takeoff fighter, that the USA built under licence as they had nothing like it.
We also invented hovercraft , submarines and and trains.
Golf, football, rugby are also british.
We discovered DNA. We invented DNA profiling.
We invented toilets and toliet paper.
The UK even founded the industrial age.
Just a few others here....
http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/bl_british_inventors.htm
No doubt someone from USA may post their list - make sure its six times bigger at least
You are reading this via the WWW - which was also invented by a brit.
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/british/brit-5.html
shows how we learnt from eachother
[Edited on 8/11/05 by steve_gus]
What the F**k's that all about derf? Whose army are you in now?. Your emails are being monitored like the rest of us and you sound like a white
supremacist. Just listen to yourself man. You and the Canadians call yourself Americans but you are all colonists from all over the place. The
indigenous Americans are the people who suffered at our expense, ousted from their rightful home and not just the North Americas. Europe plundered
Canada and all the way down to South America in various guises, English French and Spanish while they were still fighting amongst themselves (I
don't recall the Belgians being involved though). I'm sorry to say I've let myself get drawn into it but it doesn't deserve the
space it's taking up and should be dumped. It's not madhouse material and should be in its own section, who can wee furthest or
something.
Give America back to the Native Americans. Like that's going to happen. If we'd all been Navajo the world would have been a better place.
Let's put aside the penis size comparisons for a moment (a metaphor for the "my country is better than yours" arguments derf ).
The implication that any one of the Canadian, French, Polish, American, British, or any other soldier wasted their time, their lives, weren't
appreciated, or weren't needed is very offensive - more so because it's 3 days from remembrance day.
What about our members who are German, Italian, Japanese, Iraqi, etc - our friends and fellow members? This and other threads haven't been very
friendly to them. Were they all evil for fighting and dying for their own countries? If they'd won they'd be heros in the history books.
I say save the vitriol for the asshole politicians and leaders that put their egos and personal gain ahead of the lives of their own friends and
family, their own people. On the 11th I'll be remembering those that fought for what they believed was right regardless of side.
Pete, I've read and re-read, and I just can't find the humor in your post - one of us is slipping !
quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
.....(I don't recall the Belgians being involved though).....
quote:
Originally posted by steve_gus
USA discovered the principles of flight.
quote:
Originally posted by smart51
quote:
Originally posted by steve_gus
USA discovered the principles of flight.
Their breakthough was to buy an engine that was light enough for it, a plane and a pilot to be flown under its own power.
quote:
They designed their own engine-their own plane and learned themselves to fly.
Cheers Cita
Forgive me my ignorance but who was it that had flown an airplane in the early 19th century?
Balloon's and Zeppelin's (Ponton d'Amecourt etc...)made powered man carrying flights in the early 19th century but this is comparing
apples with oranges.
Otto Lillienthal crashed his glider on August 9,1896 and died and as you will notice this was at the best a few decades before the Wright brothers
made their memorable flight.
He was probably the person who laid the foundation of development of wing flight.
The work of Sir George Calley has also it's place in history as is the work of many others in this field.
The Wright's where the first to place all the pieces of the jiggsaw together and made the first powered manned flight with an airplane.
It would be unfair to minimize the work of Sir Frank Whittle on the jet engine with saying that all the theory he used (fluid mechanics-pyrotechnics
etc...)have been done for him many years before he even started thinking about the jet engine.
The helicopter was not invented by Sikorsky as there even exhisted toys that where based on the rotary wing theory as early as the 13th century!
But he was among the first to put the pieces together and made it work.
In that respect I would say that the Wright's deserve to credit that they developed the powered flight.
Cheers Cita
I have this in my favourites here because I like looking at this kind of stuff, especially
gyrocopters.
smart51 " he just had to rely on gravity". That's what stops you flying, it's very reliable in that aspect.
[Edited on 9/11/05 by Peteff]
Thanks Pete
I'm glad you understood who I was talking about
Cheers Cita
[Edited on 9/11/05 by Cita]
quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
I have this in my favourites here because I like looking at this kind of stuff, especially gyrocopters.
quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
..... because I like looking at this kind of stuff, especially gyrocopters.
Here is something that comes from London:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_The_Ripper
Thats very sticky ground!
117 year old murderer was the best you could come up with?
I think America has advanced serial killing pretty well in the 20th century.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_bundy
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fish (particularly nasty)
kinda blows old jack into the shade.
as would some of these.......
Charles Albright - Killer of three. Known for surgically removing the eyes of victims
David Berkowitz - known as the "Son of Sam"
The Boston Strangler - allegedly Albert DeSalvo, though disputed
William Bonin - with several accomplices, claimed the lives of twenty boys in California
Jerry Brudos - killed at least 5 women and was sexually aroused by their feet.
Ted Bundy - law student who raped and murdered over 30 women in several states
Richard Chase - The "Vampire of Sacramento" murdered six people in the '70s
Dean Corll - committed the Houston Mass Murders with Elmer Wayne Henley and David Brooks
Juan Corona - Mexican immigrant who killed 25 people in the space of just six-weeks
Charles Cullen - Male nurse in New Jersey and Pennsylvania who killed as many as 40 patients through lethal injection
Jeffrey Dahmer - Milwaukee cannibal who kept heads, skulls and body parts in his apartment
Westley Allan Dodd - child molester and killer of 3 young boys in Seattle, Washington. hanged on January 5, 1993
Glennon Engleman - mediocre St. Louis dentist who shot and bombed his way to financial success
Larry Eyler - the "Interstate Killer" of Illinois. Killed 21 people between 1982 and 1994
Albert Fish - sadist and pedophile who cannibalised a 12-year-old girl
John Wayne Gacy - the 'Killer Clown' who kept bodies buried under his Chicago home
Ed Gein. Elements of Gein's life and crimes have inspired, at least in part The Silence of the Lambs and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
Kristen Gilbert - Original "Angel of Death" serial killer, convicted of killing 4 by injection of epinephrine while working as a nurse
Harvey Murray Glatman - Californian rapist and killer of three women. Lured women to pose for "bondage photographs" and would rape and
murder them.
Belle Gunness - the "Black Widow of the Heartland". killed prospective husbands, suitors, and her own children
Donald Harvey - male nurse, confessed to more than 80 "mercy killings" with 37 confirmed killings.
Gary M. Heidnik - serial killer from the Philadelphia area.
"Wild Bill" Hickman - Killed in the name of religion. Many of his alleged exploits are disputed.
Hillside Strangler - actually two men, Kenneth Bianchi and Angelo Buono, Jr.
Genene Jones - Texas pediatric nurse who is believed to have killed up to 48 infants in her care in the 1980s
H. H. Holmes (real name Herman Mudgett), active 1890-1894 during Chicago's 1893 World Columbian Exposition.
Patrick Kearney - necrophile who butchered 28 men in California
Edmund Kemper - started killing when he was aged fifteen
Sante Kimes - grifter and murder-for-profit killer who, along with her son Kenneth Kimes, are believed to have killed upwards of 4 people
Paul John Knowles - raped and murdered 18 people
Randy Steven Kraft - murdered as many as 68 young men in California
Leonard Lake and Charles Ng - ex-marines and survivalists who collected female slaves
Derrick Todd Lee - aka the Baton Rouge Serial Killer
Eddie Leonski - the Brownout Strangler
Henry Lee Lucas - confessed to hundreds of murders, although most confessions were false
Bobby Joe McCauley - hitchiker schizophrenic who murdered 7 (possibly 15) prostitutes [1].
John Allen Muhammed - Washington D.C. area sniper.
Herbert Mullin - schizophrenic who killed people to prevent earthquakes
Earle Nelson - Necrophiliac serial killer dubbed "Gorilla Man"
Carl Panzram - murderer, rapist, arsonist
Jesse Pomeroy - teenaged psychopath who killed two children
Dorothea Puente - killed and robbed nine elderly people
Dennis Rader - killed ten people over 20 years as the "BTK Killer"
Richard Ramirez - the 'Night Stalker' who terrorized Los Angeles in 1986
Angel Maturino Resendiz - killed nine people in Texas, Kentucky, and Illinois
Gary Ridgway - arrested in November, 2001 for The Green River Killer murders
Joel Rifkin - murdered 17 women in the New York City and Long Island area
John Edward Robinson - so-called 'Cyber Sex Killer' who lured victims through the internet
Danny Rolling - pleaded guilty to butchering five students in Florida
Arthur Shawcross - the Genesee River Killer
Gerard John Schaefer - policeman from Florida who killed up to thirty-four women and girls
Charles Starkweather and Caril Ann Fugate - "Natural Born Killers"
Cary Stayner - "Yosemite Murderer". killed three women
Michael Swango - medical doctor believed to have administered lethal injections to as many as 35 people in the USA and Zimbabwe
Otis Toole - Henry Lee Lucas's accomplice. Convicted of six murders in Florida
Jane Toppan - 19th Century nurse who killed over thirty patients
Coral Eugene Watts - killed dozens of women in Texas and Michigan
Wayne Williams - convicted of the Atlanta Child Murders, disputed
Randall Woodfield - the "I-5 killer"
Aileen Wuornos - rare female serial killer who shot dead six men in Florida
atb
steve
PS - the above isnt anti american, just factual reply to 'jack the ripper'.
[Edited on 9/11/05 by steve_gus]
theres a few touched people in that list ... well all of em
and wasn't jack the ripper a septic (allegedly)
quote:
Originally posted by marcyboy
and wasn't jack the ripper a septic (allegedly)
whats a septic tank full of?
Yanks?
Some even have too many toes apparently.....
so if we get no reply from over the water does that mean we've won?
Mike
you mean from USA or Belgium?
atb
steve
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thats '1' reply then
atb
steve