Like you all , I have just been watching the continuous news coverage about George Best, an amazing footballer, able to kick the ball with both his right and left foot. Also an outstanding dribbler, especially after a couple of cases of Chablis.

A sad day indeed. Epernay is a ghost town, and shares in Gordons Gin have only taken a hit like this once before…when Princess Margaret popped it.

People are leaving Pink Cuddly Bears as tokens of respect etc...
Rather than a pink cuddly bear, how about the epitaph of the poor sod who should have got the liver transplant?
I really feel for that person and their family.

Well got that off my chest.

If ever I think ive posted something unpleasant, or said anything inappropriate on line, I will have your post to hold up to it as a yardstick.

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Originally posted by steve_gus
If ever I think ive posted something unpleasant, or said anything inappropriate on line, I will have your post to hold up to it as a yardstick.

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A good / excellent footballer / man of his time... I wont deny that.

But a Man that man that kills himself through drink, and then blows a second chance on his life is stupidty of the highest order and deserves what he got.

You can call his alcholism a disease.. as thats what it is.

But to take a transplant and p*ss it down the drain, thus denying some other innocent person of a life is bordering on the criminal (morally speaking).

I have no sympathy for the bloke at all.

Appologies if I have offended anyone.

TBH I think alot of people have no sympaphy for George Best. What highlighted it for me was the death of Richard Burns. One man throws away his second chance at life when the other didn't stand a chance with his first one. What makes me sad is that Richard Burns will receive very little media coverage or recognition outside of the motorsport world because he never did anything interesting like drink driving or hitting women.

[Edited on 27/11/05 by Russ-Turner]

Russ,

I agree with you (see my final comment in the "Burns" thread). I did post a reply in the "Best" thread, but my machine crashed before I sent it.

That unpublished comment basically said that I thought that if you're under 40 (like me!), Best would probably be more famous for his drinking. I also said his comment in the Mail on Sunday was a good read. Balanced opinion etc.

I also think it's terribly sad for his family, like it would be for any other.

When I heard of Burns' death, I was quite depressed.

ATB

Simon

[Edited on 28/11/05 by Simon]

I agree, all the coverage of best is reflecting his footballing career but for most people he is better known for his less admirable side. I agree that he had an illness but it is a curable one. He had an obligation to the donors family to kick the habit. enough said
I too was very depressed when i heard about richards death. that man was dedicated to his life. perhaps the most proffesional sportsman you could find, never making rash decisions and every move was thought out. To lose your life that young is always tragic but we have lost one of britains most promising star.
Sadly he will never get the recognition he deserves.

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Originally posted by wilkingjYou can call his alcholism a disease.. as thats what it is.

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Originally posted by wilkingjYou can call his alcholism a disease.. as thats what it is.

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"Disease" is a cop-out -- they are weak, irresponsible misanthropes, unwilling to taking responsibility for their actions.

Alcoholics should be set adrift on ice-flows, not pitied, tolerated or otherwise coddled as we currently do.

Cheers, Ted

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Originally posted by wilkingjYou can call his alcholism a disease.. as thats what it is.

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"Disease" is a cop-out -- they are weak, irresponsible misanthropes, unwilling to taking responsibility for their actions.

Alcoholics should be set adrift on ice-flows, not pitied, tolerated or otherwise coddled as we currently do.

Cheers, Ted

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I think we have all known someone that has died through smoking. Its a fair bet that 30% of you reading this also smoke.

So, if any of you die through smoking, on the basis of comparing with alcoholism, you will obviously deserve the painful death that goes with smoking.

And no one at your funeral will be sorry for you. They will just say 'hey. he was a weak minded idiot that deserved what he got . He had years to give up, but never did'.

If you cannot show sympathy to someone who didnt have the strength to give up an ADDICTION then look at yourself first before you criticise.

If we all had the free will to change, then EVERYONE would be able to give up smoking that reads this. But you wont will you. Even though each packet has the promise of a painfull death printed on the front. How stupid and weak are you!

Or you could say that you smoke cos you enjoy it or its your decision. Didnt BEst have that same right if you apply the same silly logic?

Therefore you are as weak and useless as you perceived Best to be for not giving up,


For those that worry about how the donor family feels - dont give it a moments though. The donor family and the recipient are not allowed to know source and destination.

pound to a peice of shyte some trash newspaper will have a made up story soon about what the family felt about it.


atb

steve

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Originally posted by Cita


Been reading "Mein Kampf" too often hé Ted!!

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Ted,

perhaps the "self inflicted bahaviour" is the disease.....

cheers Cita