I realise it's all the same t*ssers who gave BMWs a bad name but I'm sure their driving has
got worse - or maybe I'm just getting old........ lol
given the recent discussions about the m5 crash. seems alot of people have different theories about who is to blame and who drive bad. Lets VOTE.....
There's no box for "women" ????
any person who does not move to the left hand lane on a motorway when able to do so !!!
public flogging and 3 points end off!!!
regards
Agriv8
generally people diving in the middle lane when they can move over. But the worst is diving far too close.
Agreed. People that sit in the outside lane. Not overtaking anyone, causing people to undertake out of frustration.
I don't mind people overtaking slowly or driving slowly. But it's the outside lane hoggers and the fools behind them trying to undertake.
Saying that, the most accidents I see is minor accidents involving a single car and lorry. Everyday without fail there's a lorry parked up with a
car just infront.
missed a few off the list sorry :O)
not sure i can put women as my mrs will kill me. probably by driving too close to a lorry lol ......
In my opinion.... anyone who is driving under the speed limit is a massive danger to everyone.
The worst offenders are those middle aged/elderly people in their toyota Jizz sitting at 50.... If lorries are overtaking you... get OFF the
motorway!
The category for Audi drivers is also missing I realise it's all the same t*ssers who gave BMWs a bad name but I'm sure their driving has
got worse - or maybe I'm just getting old........ lol
Definately those thinking tey are paid up members of the middle lane owners club, closely followed by those who don't match the motorway speed on the slip road and insist on joining at 30mph.
I put " other" as to be honest and as we all know there are people in every one of those categories who are crap drivers.
Look ahead/think ahead and leave more room should be drummed into learners ( it was when I sat my test and the roads were quieter then). middle lane
hoggers should be shot and undertakers should be sent just there.
My tuppence worth.
Middle lane drivers/ people who wont move over....
quote:
Originally posted by tegwin
In my opinion.... anyone who is driving under the speed limit is a massive danger to everyone.
quote:
Whereas everyone driving at the maximum permisable speed would be safer?
TAZZMAXX - 8/11/11 at 12:35 PMThe true answer is probably all of them but I do find that you see better driving standards early in the morning rather than the middle of the day, for instance. My pet hate is 7.5 tonners as the majority seem to be driven by people who've never had to take their HGV and think that their vehicle has car like performance.
Agriv8 - 8/11/11 at 12:36 PMquote:
Originally posted by D Beddows
The category for Audi drivers is also missing
nah think they have moved onto volvo'sits a strange one as I have seen it myself my !! Mty Audi A6s is the most relaxing place I can sit - compared to work home ( even better if I have No kids ). PS i do not tail gate but have been known to brake test a few !
regards
Agriv8
Daddylonglegs - 8/11/11 at 12:38 PMYup, another vote for the Middle Lane Owner's CLub members. PITA!! MOVE OVER GIBBON!!!!
That feels a little better
ashg - 8/11/11 at 12:48 PMdriving on the m20, m26, m25, m23 every day for the last 2-3 years the thing that pee's me off more than anything are people that sit aggressively close up your ass trying to bully through even though there are 50 cars in front of me holding everything up
driving too close is the cause of virtually all motorway accidents. people that get wiped out by lorries are either stupid or very very unlucky. when i was taught to drive i was told to never sit along side a lorry and to always overtake in a quick manner. i was also told to never sit between two lorries in the slow lane. if you want to know if a lorry is going to pull out just look in their mirror. if you can see his eyes he is pulling out simple as that.
THE REALLY BIG ISSUE THOUGH!!!! why the hell are we still not teaching people to drive on the motorway as part of the driving test? the chance of being killed in a motorway collision is miles higher than any other type of road but the government and dsa still dont want to take their blinkers off as they think it will cost too much to implement. surely lost business revenue from accident hold ups must cost more than changing the driving test.
AndyW - 8/11/11 at 01:08 PMquote:
Originally posted by D Beddows
The category for Audi drivers is also missing
Well I used to drive a BMW and now an Audi. I do over 40k miles a year and never had an accident which was my fault, so lets not tar everyone with the same brush. I could easily say that people like you who clearly have anger against certain drivers and their cars, are very dangerous on the road as your more likely to try and out do one of them, and say you got one up on an audi driver.
Lets not get personal shall we?
Mr Whippy - 8/11/11 at 01:14 PMquote:
Originally posted by AndyW
quote:
Originally posted by D Beddows
The category for Audi drivers is also missing
Well I used to drive a BMW and now an Audi. I do over 40k miles a year and never had an accident which was my fault, so lets not tar everyone with the same brush. I could easily say that people like you who clearly have anger against certain drivers and their cars, are very dangerous on the road as your more likely to try and out do one of them, and say you got one up on an audi driver.
Lets not get personal shall we?
Sorry but Audi drivers got a well earned reputation for reckless and arrogant driving.
Unfortunately they seem to have Range Rovers now
The most dangerous driver are tailgaters and that applies to 90% of the idiots on the road
Benzine - 8/11/11 at 01:14 PMquote:
Originally posted by ashg
THE REALLY BIG ISSUE THOUGH!!!! why the hell are we still not teaching people to drive on the motorway as part of the driving test? the chance of being killed in a motorway collision is miles higher than any other type of road
The chance of being killed in a motorway crash is a tiny bit higher than other roads but overall:
"Motorways aren't only our fastest roads, they're also our safest. In terms of deaths and serious injuries per mile driven, they are four times safer than rural roads, and six times safer than town streets"
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/motoring/motorwa ys-are-good-for-you-1600227.html
owelly - 8/11/11 at 01:20 PMquote:
driving too close is the cause of virtually all motorway accidents.
Er, yes......way too close. If there was a gap, then there would be no collision....
At a recent 'road safety awareness' course run at my work, we had two traffic cops and two IAM instructors giving the presentation. All four stated, and repeated when questioned, that it is perfectly legal to 'filter' on a multi-lane carriageway. Thats undertaking to you and me, provuding you're not changing lanes specifically to carry-out the manouver.
Every day is a school day...
[Edited on 8/11/11 by owelly]
hicost blade - 8/11/11 at 01:21 PMBelgians! By far the worst
I always say to my misses, look at that Belgian I bet he's going to do something stupid........ ahhhhhh brake, swerve "t****r"
I nearly got had by one after the Grand Prix on the A43 M40 junction, he swerved across 3 lanes in front of me and nearly took the front of my car off, no indicators or mirrors just a dangerous manoeuvre. I even warned my misses to brace about 5 seconds before it happened as a "joke".......
Ban em all!!!!!
tegwin - 8/11/11 at 01:26 PMWhy else do you think the belgians have red number plates.... makes it easier to identify and run away
ash_hammond - 8/11/11 at 01:30 PMquote:
Originally posted by Agriv8
any person who does not move to the left hand lane on a motorway when able to do so !!!
public flogging and 3 points end off!!!
regards
Agriv8
^^ My vote.
D Beddows - 8/11/11 at 01:45 PMquote:
Well I used to drive a BMW and now an Audi. I do over 40k miles a year and never had an accident which was my fault, so lets not tar everyone with the same brush. I could easily say that people like you who clearly have anger against certain drivers and their cars, are very dangerous on the road as your more likely to try and out do one of them, and say you got one up on an audi driver.
I have to say that unfortunately that reply goes some way to proving my point...........Where did I say I was a) angry b) going to try to 'out do' them and c) mention your name!!? All I know is that, from experience, probably 7 times out of 10 if I see an newish Audi coming up behind me they're either going to flash past at 100+ mph or if there is too much traffic to do that they're either going to tailgate, swap lanes unnecessarily every 500 yards or undertake. I just let them get on with it tbh, it's been a long time since I was a teenager and felt the need to think I'd 'got one up' on someone with a certain make of car............
You're obviously one of the 3 out of 10 so lets just leave it at that shall we!? - and no I'm not saying it's just Audi drivers that drive like muppets either
T66 - 8/11/11 at 01:47 PMI drove A1/M1 last week, home to Hinckley & return with the car and trailer....
Wagon drivers tend to look in their mirrors, and then cut you up. Old people dont look in them at all, coach drivers seem ok..
Worst drivers for me are the wanker Audi/Merc lot bullying their way on the motorway.
450 or so miles, and 3 people tried to kill me....
1) Audi driver, finished using his mobile in lane 1 at 50mph and pulled out infront of me without looking.
2) Old fart in a Pug 106 - Never looked at all, then gave me the Vs once I had missed running into the back of him.
3) Audi driver (fat bloke in a suit) on his mobile in the narrow lanes, head propped up on his window, drifted into me.
Never saw a Police car from one end of the country to the other, just saw the CHIPS patrol once, no surprise driving is so bad, nobody gets trained how to drive on motorways at speed, so hence nobody has a clue, and the standards are so low.
Minor whinge complete, thank you.
ReMan - 8/11/11 at 01:54 PMThose who undertake me in the middle lane, when I cant go any faster in the "faster" lane because of the 1-50 cars in front of me ....
Then bully their way back into the "faster" lane a number of cars ahead, causing the "faster" lane cars to brake
Alan M - 8/11/11 at 02:05 PM(Those who undertake me in the middle lane, when I cant go any faster in the "faster" lane because of the 1-50 cars in front of me ....
Then bully their way back into the "faster" lane a number of cars ahead, causing the "faster" lane cars to brake)
There is no such thing as "fast lanes"!
There is a left hand lane and then 2 overtaking lanes. It is this thinking that results in the middle lane hogs, who think that the left hand lane is for lorries only and people sticking in the outside lane because they are doing the legal maximum speed
mad:
deezee - 8/11/11 at 02:07 PMPersonally I think the quality of UK driving is pathetic. People just don't give a crap about how their actions affect other road users AND people who are spiteful are just as bad. Instead of being stupid are trying to foolishly blame a certain vehicle for driving, I think its safer to blame the actions of drivers. Like the following
Leaving it until the last minute to make your turnoff / motorway exit.
Not indicating when changing lanes.
Assuming that using an indicator gives you the right to change lanes regardless of how safe it is.
Not getting in the correct lane to leave the motorway and instead sitting STATIONERY in the wrong lane with your indicator on.
Not allowing enough space in front of your car
Not moving back to the left, if your not passing traffic
Making no effort join a motorway safely and joining at 45mph, when traffic is doing 70mph.
Not being polite, being aggressive and not paying attention to other road users.
Nearly causing a crash because "I've got right of way" Helping cause an accident is never "right"
HGV's over taking each other at 2mph speed difference.
I think thats covered the bulk of it. The sad fact is many drivers are jerks and your better off giving them loads of space and staying safe.
MikeRJ - 8/11/11 at 02:25 PMquote:
Originally posted by jossey
WHO are the worst drivers on motorways...
The World Health Organisation are particularly bad drivers.
jossey - 8/11/11 at 02:27 PMwhat piss*s me off.
as a few people have mentioned....
-Lorrys overtaking for 3-5 miles on 2 lane motorways.
-middle lane hoggers who wont move in even with nothing in inside lane and me flashing them and then passing them from inside lane to outside and back to inside....
-people who think its fine to keep there high beam on after you overtake them
-lorry drivers who pull out unless your along side them even if you have to brake heavy to avoid being eaten.....
-3rd lane slow drivers
and finally.
The guy who called me a W***ker because i was towing a caravan on a 50 limit road doing 50. not sure what speed he wanted me to do.
jossey - 8/11/11 at 03:12 PMtook a few reads but it made sense in end :O)
quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by jossey
WHO are the worst drivers on motorways...
The World Health Organisation are particularly bad drivers.
Agriv8 - 8/11/11 at 03:42 PMthat would be the limmiter that mean that all trucks go the same top speed ( not their fault ) but why we cant get a load moved onto rail freight (running along the M62 coridor )
but big compaies even have special Tyres to go on so that when the limmiters get set they can get a couple of MPH more when the proper ones go on - as time is money
there are other things that you can do to limiters as well but they wil show up on your Taco.
regards
Agriv8
femster87 - 8/11/11 at 03:55 PMFor me it's people who drive too close, they really annoy me. Yesterday I left a gap big enought to fit two cars, cars infront of me were not going anywhere, i got flagged by some old guy, undertook me and reduced the gap then had to break the plunker
David Jenkins - 8/11/11 at 04:31 PMYes - the standard of driving in this country is poor, and getting worse - but you ought to try driving around Sydney, NSW!
Their driving is astonishingly bad!
coozer - 8/11/11 at 04:42 PMHGV's over taking each other at 2mph speed difference.
Lorrys overtaking for 3-5 miles on 2 lane motorways.
Lorrys drivers are not to blame for this, the uk government set the HGV speed at 60 on a motorway but the EU set the limiters to 56 max, company's screw them down to whatever to save fuel.
My recent job had a newish 60 plate do 49mph max adding 30 minute to my journey.
We are perfectly entitled to be on the roads and drive at whatever speed they go, same as every one else. All this is drummed in during HGV training which does involve motorway driving tuition.
Another gripe is people joining motorways slow, not looking then either braking or trying to speed up and undertake.
dave - 8/11/11 at 04:46 PMI would like to say Audi and BMW drivers but i think in general its people who believe that it is their place to drive in the fast/middle lane. Really does my head in especially if you flash to get past them, that seems to indicate to them that they should slow down but not move lanes. Actually their all cnuts.
adithorp - 8/11/11 at 04:53 PMDon't think any of the catogories are worse than any other; There some numpties in all of them.
My list of motorway moans, in no particular order...
People who don't accelerate on a slip road and force me to join the inside lane at 30 with trucks bearing down on me.
Drivers who change lanes without using (or ignoring) their mirrors first.
Drivers who see me catching the car in front and indicating to change lanes but refuse to move out into the (empty)outside lane, thus blocking me in and forcing me to brake.
Middle lane sitters.
Outside lane sitters who, although going a reasonable speed, slow down as they approach a middle lane sitter and creep past then accelerate back to speed...and repeat.
Trucks partaking in "elephant racing"
Lines of trucks so close together you can't get between them to exit.
Last minute exiters, diving accross multiple lanes to the slip road.
Tailgaters.
People who slow down to 60 when they see a police car.
There's more, but I'm getting wound up so I'm going to leave it there.
Bare - 8/11/11 at 05:28 PMquote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
Yes - the standard of driving in this country is poor, and getting worse - but you ought to try driving around Sydney, NSW!
Their driving is astonishingly bad!
Typical in a newly Chinese city. Certainly true in Vancouver .. which is another New Immigrant city.
Gives an entirely new meaning to "Drive Defensively"
Daddylonglegs - 8/11/11 at 05:59 PMForgot to add:
The T**ts that decide they have more right to enter the Motoroway from the slip-road than you have to be on it on the inside lane even if there is nowhere for you to go to let them in!!
Neville Jones - 8/11/11 at 06:02 PMI'll be heading from Southampton up to Scotland towing a car trailer in a week or two, to deliver a project.
My biggest fear/worry is the trucks.
Every time I've gone up the M1/M5/M6 I've ended up with artics, or 7.5 tonners who seem to be worse, sitting 2meters from my rear.
What do they hope to achieve? The old 70ps Transit can only tow a trailer so fast.
When this happens I usually give a few taps on the brake lights then slow and let the eejits past.
And I sympathise with the person trying to get across a line of trucks tailgating each other. I've counted as many as 15 on the M6 this time last year. It's a wonder there's not a lot more big pileups..
Cheers,
Nev.
gottabedone - 8/11/11 at 06:04 PM..........but why is it that your 11 or 61 plate repmobile will harass you out of the way whatever lane you are in and then drive you up to the back of a slower moving vehicle and pull along side you before speeding off
Oh and the lorries that follow mirror/signal/manoeuvre all in one go 6 feet off the back of the lorry in front of them. 3 lanes then doing 50 mph as everything moves right.
It's not just about the lorries and not a dig at the truckers on here as we've all experienced this ^^^^
I've done 10's of thousands of miles in europe and I'd much rather be there than here (although Italy was an education) as they respect other drivers
Steve
jollygreengiant - 8/11/11 at 06:11 PMI hate bad drivers, PERIOD. I see the bad driving as a result of the 'Police' (either for their own reasons or due to 'political' directioning) tending to now purely (seemingly) chasing and prosecuting speeding drivers. I can remember whilst I was learning to drive, the police would stop and 'have a discusion' with anyone who exhibited bad driving habits, be it speeding or otherwise. Also they would have discussions with anyone who had obvious faults like lights not working.
What hope do we have when a car shoots across a junction (crossing a red light) in front of a Police car that has just started to pull off on a green light and then the Police car does absolutely nothing about it.
IF the bad driving habit are not stamped on to the same degree as speeding, then driving without due care and attention will increase and the impact of bad driving in conjunction with speed (for this purpose, anything in excess of 20mph and bring back the red flag walker) will proove to be increasingly fatal (even with advanced safety features, I say install a row of 9 inch nails infront of the drivers head) as the errors of driving will be compounded with speed.
Oh and if you are using the mark 1 eyeball properly you can see an approach(ing) fog bank (or smoke pall) and if you can't see that far due to the conditions then slow down (enough) and give yourself and others a chance.
Driving is not rocket science and I have seen an "Institute of Advanced Drivers" driver make him self look a total prat in in adverse weather conditions.
Rant over.
morcus - 8/11/11 at 08:47 PMMy feelings on this seem to be simillar to others on here on what the major issues are and I think it boils down to something that effects our society at a far greater level, People seem to be more selfish now than they were in the past and everyone seem to have to prove they're above everyone else by being a nob.
I voted Foreign HGV's because although all the options will have examples of bad driving, it's them that I think is most dangerous. I personally think LHD HGVs should be banned for commercial purposes in this country as the driver can't see passing traffic. Easter European Drivers also seem to have much easier testing as all the stupidest and most bizaare problems and illegal manouvers I've seen from lorries have all been from eastern european drivers (for a few examples, U turns on Box Junctions, Going round a roundabout anti-clockwise three times, swapping trailers on a dual Carriageway and the classic parking up for the weekend on double yellows next to a sign banning HGV's between 7pm and 8am and pretty much blocking of half an industrial estate of car dealerships. I've seen all those things this month).
Another thing that bothers me is when the gap from the motorway to the junction isn't big enough so theres a queue back onto the motorway. I'm sure everyone has at somepoint come to the aweful realisation that the traffic they're passing is the queue for the junction they want to leave at and now has to somehow intergrate with or give up and drive to the next junction.
Another huge problem we have in this country is people don't seem to be able to understand how fast they should be going for the conditions and this is probably more relevent to non motorways but it still applies. Too many people seem to think the speed limit is the speed you should be doing even though the very word 'limit' tells us we should be going slower than the limit. On the motorway it's slightly more complicated but if people used the lanes propperly we would all be able to pretty much maintain our chosen speed which matches our specific circumstances and should I see fit I should pretty much beable to cross the country at 60, easilly passing lorries at 50 and people at 70 would be able to easilly pass me, lane dissiplin is the only thing thats normally in the way of this, as if your willing to 'filter' you can sit in the first lane at an indicated 60 outside of peak hours and because you stay at 60 you'll pass people in the other two lanes who by going 80 have all bunched up and had a car cut in way up the road cause a breaking effect which gets more pronounced as it moves backwards.
BigFaceDave - 8/11/11 at 09:18 PMquote:
Originally posted by coozer
HGV's over taking each other at 2mph speed difference.
Lorrys overtaking for 3-5 miles on 2 lane motorways.
Lorrys drivers are not to blame for this, the uk government set the HGV speed at 60 on a motorway but the EU set the limiters to 56 max, company's screw them down to whatever to save fuel.
My recent job had a newish 60 plate do 49mph max adding 30 minute to my journey.
We are perfectly entitled to be on the roads and drive at whatever speed they go, same as every one else. All this is drummed in during HGV training which does involve motorway driving tuition.
Another gripe is people joining motorways slow, not looking then either braking or trying to speed up and undertake.
I complety agree with you that HGv's have every right to use the fast lane when needed but as anyone who regually uses the A14 any where near Bury St edmunds will be very aware of the amount of lorries (especially sugar beet lorries at this time of year) that will pull out without warning into a gap that doesnt really exist and then take many many miles and never actually get as far as overtaking the lorry they wanted to pass.
A couple of weeks ago I was in a queue of traffic for over 12 miles and by the time I got to my turning the lorry wasnt even half way past the one he was trying to overtake!
Of course I do appreciate that not all HGV drivers are the same as not all BMW drivers and Audi drivers wont be the same.
Another one that I haven't seen mentioned on here yet is the people who like to overtake and then slow down! I get it all the time! they come past pull in infornt of me without looking and leaving a gap and then slow down! then you go to overtake (all the time keeping exactly the same speed and then you get halfway past and they speed up! and then will get arsey that your tailgating them when actaully they just cut infront and slowed down!
Anyway, Rant over! Im off for a cup of tea and will ponder how we can solve the global economical crisis! If anyone can the LCB's clan can!
[Edited on 8/11/11 by BigFaceDave]
ReMan - 8/11/11 at 10:27 PMquote:
Originally posted by Alan M
(Those who undertake me in the middle lane, when I cant go any faster in the "faster" lane because of the 1-50 cars in front of me ....
Then bully their way back into the "faster" lane a number of cars ahead, causing the "faster" lane cars to brake)
There is no such thing as "fast lanes"!
There is a left hand lane and then 2 overtaking lanes. It is this thinking that results in the middle lane hogs, who think that the left hand lane is for lorries only and people sticking in the outside lane because they are doing the legal maximum speed
And that's why I ironically and specifically said faster.
Have you been on the M25?
Mr Whippy - 9/11/11 at 09:10 AMI like my smokey old Landrover, it gasses anyone who tries to tailgate ha ha ha
Macbeast - 9/11/11 at 09:29 AMThere is an option for old people: why is there not an option for young drivers ?
Lke the ones who join a motorway from the slip road and shoot straight across two or three lanes to go straight into the outside lane.
I've been driving motorways for many years, usually at the maximum speed allowed and always in lane 1 until I overtake. Isn't it logical that I would be a safer motorway driver than some testosterone-filled youth who passed his test the week before ?
[Edited on 9/11/11 by Macbeast]
Jasper - 9/11/11 at 03:02 PMWell, in three hours time I've got to waste 4 hours of my life on a Speed Awareness Course.
And why did I get sent on one? I was caught doing 81mph on a straight wide piece of dual carriage a few miles from the start of the M23 at 7.30am on a Sunday morning in the summer - no traffic and dead straight piece of road in perfect weather conditions. Exactly the sort of road that will be made into a 80mph limit soon anyway. And they're going to try to tell me I was going too fast and driving dangerously.
So I haven't had a accident since I was a teenage - over 25 years ago, and the reckon my driving is bad. It's a f**king joke, a speed camera van on that piece of road on a Sunday morning, don't tell me it's anything but a revenue earner. I shall be sitting there sulking and playing on my phone for 4 hours.
For me it's old people and young usually women drivers - I drive past a Uni everyday and young women in small noddy cars with their faces pressed to the windscreen doing 40mph on a dual carriageway, usually chatting to their car full of mates or just looking nervous.
Like others have said - shoot anybody who sits in the middle lane.
coyoteboy - 9/11/11 at 04:09 PMThe simple answer is inattentive and under-skilled drivers, doesn't matter what type of vehicle you drive or whether you're male or female - stupidity and inattention spans all.
Ninehigh - 9/11/11 at 04:45 PMRefresher retest every 5 years will filter all this out
Agriv8 - 9/11/11 at 05:07 PMquote:
Originally posted by Jasper
Well, in three hours time I've got to waste 4 hours of my life on a Speed Awareness Course.
And why did I get sent on one? I was caught doing 81mph on a straight wide piece of dual carriage a few miles from the start of the M23 at 7.30am on a Sunday morning in the summer - no traffic and dead straight piece of road in perfect weather conditions. Exactly the sort of road that will be made into a 80mph limit soon anyway. And they're going to try to tell me I was going too fast and driving dangerously.
So I haven't had a accident since I was a teenage - over 25 years ago, and the reckon my driving is bad. It's a f**king joke, a speed camera van on that piece of road on a Sunday morning, don't tell me it's anything but a revenue earner. I shall be sitting there sulking and playing on my phone for 4 hours.
For me it's old people and young usually women drivers - I drive past a Uni everyday and young women in small noddy cars with their faces pressed to the windscreen doing 40mph on a dual carriageway, usually chatting to their car full of mates or just looking nervous.
Like others have said - shoot anybody who sits in the middle lane.
i got pulled for doing a little more than that on the inside lane of a 3 lane deserted M180 on a sunny, dry, warm Sunday afternoon in my A6 I wan not allowed a speed awareness as I was going too fast. even though I could do the same speed on a 2 lane autoban in Germany. becaus I may come accross an older driver who I may scare !!!
The policaman was almost apolagetic 'But ruless are rules ' and I get in bother unless I issue enough to keen the managent happy. A very nice copper spent 10 minutes talking about his motorbike and how he didnt break the sppeed limit while out with his mates in North Yorks !!yeah I belive you !!.
anyhow time for me to SUMO ( Shut Up amd Move On )
Ben_Copeland - 9/11/11 at 08:04 PMDodged another pet hate tonight..... people joining the motorway from the hard shoulder at 20-30mph right infront of people!!!!
Badger_McLetcher - 10/11/11 at 02:53 AMI have in the past seen a car sitting in the middle lane of a deserted motorway in the early hours of the morning and not been able to resist...
Overtake. Move to inside lane. Slow down, allowing the car to overtake. Speed up, pull out, overtake. Repeat twice or until they realise and move to inside lane. Then bugger off on my way
mad4x4 - 10/11/11 at 06:39 AMthings i hate.
- People expecting to join Motorway and the motorway to give way... when then join at 30mph
- Lane Hoggers esp when inside lane is clearer but not moving as quick
- People who won't let you out as they are stuck behind a Hogger leading to not wanting to change lanes
- International Speed Limited Truck Racing on Dual Carriage ways. Why do lorries have to compare speed limiter calibrations for 4 miles then decide to pull back in.
- Turcks that pull out into a 10ft gap with 30mSec (milliseconds) notice i.e indicator as the "swerve-change" lanes. To compete in International Speed Limited Truck Racing
However - try driving a old landover up the dualler, its a nightmare as you don't have the speed to over take anything and nobody want to be held up by letting you out..
My Road of shame - A90 scotland Laurencekirk to Aberdeem
International Speed Limited Truck Racing
CraigJ - 10/11/11 at 08:55 AMI cover thousands of miles a week for my job and i know i'm not the perfect driver, but the worse drivers i see day in day out are wagon drivers. The amount of times i have had to slam on because one has decided that putting his indicator on automatically means he can pull straight over nearly hitting me or other drivers. It boils my piss. And you always get the same excuses from them. "no one lets us out" well do what other people do and wait for a gap big enough you bell end.
The other gripe i have are people who hold you up going steady as they over take then once they move over they speed up?????? why???? Why the f*ck didn't you speed up to over take the go steady again once you have moved back over? And its always tw*ts in big powerful cars that do it.
Macbeast - 10/11/11 at 09:22 AM" try driving a old landover up the dualler, its a nightmare as you don't have the speed to over take anything and nobody want to be held up by letting you out.. "
If you don't have the speed to overtake, why would you want to pull out ?
ashg - 10/11/11 at 11:50 AMquote:
Originally posted by ReMan
Have you been on the M25?
unfortunately 24 miles of it 5 days a week. i have seen everything mentioned above. the only solutions are to keep increasing the petrol price until nobody can afford to use the roads or give everyone guns to keep in the glove box. drivers are very courteous in america as nobody knows who has a gun or not.
karlak - 10/11/11 at 03:36 PMToday, the worst driver ?
The complete idiot in a Lorry who was so close up my chuff I could see the fly's on his number plate, trying to Bully me along. I am in a 50 following traffic at 50, where the heck does he think I can go.
Still, his fleet manager was very interested to hear how he was portraying their company to the members of the Public
Neville Jones - 10/11/11 at 06:04 PMquote:
Originally posted by karlak
Today, the worst driver ?
The complete idiot in a Lorry who was so close up my chuff I could see the fly's on his number plate, trying to Bully me along. I am in a 50 following traffic at 50, where the heck does he think I can go.
Still, his fleet manager was very interested to hear how he was portraying their company to the members of the Public
Did you get the number of the truck?
DVLA/VOSA have a spot on their website where you can report excessively smoking vehicles. That thing was smoking like a coalmine chimney, wasn't it? You can also report bad driving.
The company will have to present the vehicle for testing, at cost of test and lost time. The driver won't be tailgating again.
This is what I've taken to doing with tailgating trucks these days.
Cheers,
Nev.
morcus - 11/11/11 at 01:49 AMis there any legal reason to prevent you from having a button that opperates the brake lights without touching the brakes?
Ninehigh - 11/11/11 at 03:06 AMquote:
Originally posted by CraigJ
I cover thousands of miles a week for my job and i know i'm not the perfect driver, but the worse drivers i see day in day out are wagon drivers. The amount of times i have had to slam on because one has decided that putting his indicator on automatically means he can pull straight over nearly hitting me or other drivers. It boils my piss. And you always get the same excuses from them. "no one lets us out" well do what other people do and wait for a gap big enough you bell end.
Oddly enough when I was doing HGV lessons it would appear by the actions of car drivers (and my instructor) that when the indicator light flashes on a wagon it means it's changing lanes NOW regardless of whether the driver thinks it's safe or not.
quote:
Originally posted my Morcus
is there any legal reason to prevent you from having a button that opperates the brake lights without touching the brakes?
I imagine there is, however I've had a few cars that allowed me to touch the brake pedal and the lights would come on before there was any braking force
morcus - 11/11/11 at 04:12 AMMy 205 had a good bit of travel between the light coming on and the brake doing anything.
What if the button was a 'test button' so you could check your bulbs? do you think that could be wrangled?
karlak - 11/11/11 at 08:24 AMquote:
Originally posted by morcus
is there any legal reason to prevent you from having a button that opperates the brake lights without touching the brakes?
Did cross my mind to "brake test" the Tw*t, but then that makes me no better then him. Also, if he was to brake, jackknife and cause a pile up - well, not worth thinking about
I remember when lorry drivers were seen as professional drivers, who were courteous, respected and a credit to their profession. I have to say that everyday I am on the road now, I am having to take some type of avoiding action because of their "bullying" tactics.
Agriv8 - 11/11/11 at 09:39 AMenough reports about any fleet will mean a visit by the Vosa boys as a memer of the familly is connected with the inteligence gathering and processing.
your report will need date,time, location and registration mark of the vheicle
regards
Agriv8