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woodster - 15/11/12 at 05:19 PM

Hi guys as this is the font of all knowledge and I can't find a definitive answer on the web ...... Can a site dumper be driven on the road, I've seen quite a few on the road that don't have lights or number plates ? ..... If you could help you'd be doing me a huge favour .


minitici - 15/11/12 at 05:50 PM

Googled and found this:
http://webcommunities.hse.gov.uk/connect.ti/construction/view?objectId=317387


woodster - 15/11/12 at 08:18 PM

Thanks for the reply , I found that after I posted on here i guess it must be right it's on the HSE web forum and it makes sense really the ones you see on the roads around road works don't have number plates and lights ..... The reason I ask is I'm running a job at the moment at work and the contractor doing the work for me is running his dumper a short distance up a quiet side road, some jobs worth above me has asked the question and I desperately need to get my story right .


austin man - 15/11/12 at 11:22 PM

surely any vehicle using the highway unless it is cordoned off i.e roadworks would need to comply with the relevant highway code and require to hold appropriate insurance licence and road worthiness regardless of the length of the road


coozer - 15/11/12 at 11:44 PM

If they used on the public road they must be road registered and insured. Same for everyone innit!


v8kid - 16/11/12 at 06:15 AM

No! We can use tractors and quads on road without logbook, tax or lights but must have insurance. It is limited to the immediate roads but exactly what that is goodness only knows. However you wouldn't want to go far on one of these things anyhow. Don't need crash helmets either.


Agriv8 - 16/11/12 at 07:51 AM

A grey area I belive as this is classed as plant . My answer would be if the contractor has insurance to use it and a qualified experinced driver you should be ok. If you were doing it properly or the task is going on for a while a risk assesment maybe a good idea.

REgards

Agriv8


woodster - 16/11/12 at 10:03 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Agriv8
A grey area I belive as this is classed as plant . My answer would be if the contractor has insurance to use it and a qualified experinced driver you should be ok. If you were doing it properly or the task is going on for a while a risk assesment maybe a good idea.

REgards

Agriv8


I've checked all those this morning and all off them are in place ..... thank you for your help

Regards

David


bigbravedave - 16/11/12 at 10:05 AM

All the backhoe loaders and dumpers that we have are road registered, taxed, and covered by the companies insurance.

We order them with RTA kits which includes number plate boards lights etc.

If we need to move any earth moving vehicles on the road that arn't registered we have to hang trade plates off the buckets.

you see alot of unregistered site kit, but usually it operates on a private site.

Because of the nature of a lot of this equipment and the opertunitiy for things to go so sadly wrong, I wouldn't operate it unless its 100% legal, just to cover my own back.


Mr Whippy - 16/11/12 at 11:44 AM

simple answer is no you should not be on the road without lights or insurance. Given the weight, shape and strength of site vehicles you can easily end up with a very serious accident or even a fatality if a car hits you hard then you are really up sh%t creak if you are not legal, just not worth the risk. I remember crashing the work transit into a dumper and caved in the whole passenger side but only put a shallow cut in the dumpers tyre! We have a non road legal Massy backhoe that has to be transported on a low loader when taking it to different sites, fortunately that doesn’t happen a lot