JoelP
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| posted on 8/11/05 at 08:12 PM |
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conniving bastards... 
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steve_gus
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| posted on 8/11/05 at 08:14 PM |
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Ok
Dunkerque was may 1940.
USA joined the war after pearl harbor in Dec 1941
Thats an 18 month or so gap whe UK and its non american allies fought 'alone'.
atb
steve
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steve_gus
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| posted on 8/11/05 at 08:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by derf
Ok I insulted England again with my comment about the revolutionary war (not sure what name you use for it), anyone want to move to that war now?
I dont think we call it anything. Its so in the past.
atb
steve
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gazza285
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| posted on 8/11/05 at 08:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by derf
If you want to talk about a good war lets talk about the US revolution.
Yep, you revolted all right. It's time to stop now though as you are as revolting as I hope you are going to get.
Will that do?
DO NOT PUT ON KNOB OR BOLLOCKS!
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steve_gus
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| posted on 8/11/05 at 08:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by derf
I just wanted to let the world know that my penis is larger than any canadians, probably due to the cold and the shrinkage effect. I got balls of
steel buddy.
As far as WW2 I think we can all agree that without US help you Brits couldnt have won. Yes in the Pacific there were lots of countries fighting,
together, and we all kicked ass.
If you want to talk about a good war lets talk about the US revolution, We kicked ass, big time. A few "colonists" kicked a major world
power to the floor and told them to go home. Who'd a thunk that could have happened.
yep, I agree that we needed USA help. I have an airfield a couple miles from me from where B17's flew and several thousands of Americans never
came back.
However, if the USA hadnt become involved, and Europe had been controlled by the Germans, you would have found yourself in a very different world, and
perhaps have joined WW3 onto WW2 straight off.
At that time the USA had (I cant think of another term) nuclear blackmail. If it worked on the Japs, perhaps it may have been for germany next. Many
nasty permutations, but at the end of the day, a german controlled Europe would have been a big problem for america.
atb
steve
[Edited on 8/11/05 by steve_gus]
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quattromike
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| posted on 8/11/05 at 08:59 PM |
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I find it ironic that some guy rekons that he needs too prove that a nation the size of america has achived more that a nation the size of the UK.
you just have to look at a world atlas at the two countrys and think of their achivements and then you realise how special the UK is.
Just what I think
Mike
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steve_gus
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| posted on 8/11/05 at 10:46 PM |
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yeah - we have the population of a little greater than California, and we have a land mass the same as the state of Oregon. USA outnumbers us in
people by 6 to one and many times the land mass.
But what have we acheived?
Take aircraft for example.
USA discovered the principles of flight.
But the UK invented the Jet Engine, Radio was developed in the uk (by an italian!) radar was invented in the UK and jet airliners were first made in
the UK (comet). Pnuematic tyres were invented by a scotsman, John Boyd Dunlop. We invented television, so in flight entertainments covered too. If the
plane has disk brakes, yep, we did those too.
We developed the bessemer process, so any steel parts came from british processes too.
We invented the computer.
We still have the only successfult vertical takeoff fighter, that the USA built under licence as they had nothing like it.
We also invented hovercraft , submarines and and trains.
Golf, football, rugby are also british.
We discovered DNA. We invented DNA profiling.
We invented toilets and toliet paper.
The UK even founded the industrial age.
Just a few others here....
http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/bl_british_inventors.htm
No doubt someone from USA may post their list - make sure its six times bigger at least
You are reading this via the WWW - which was also invented by a brit.
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/british/brit-5.html
shows how we learnt from eachother
[Edited on 8/11/05 by steve_gus]
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Peteff
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| posted on 9/11/05 at 12:53 AM |
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My family came from the country that almost kicked your ass in WW2
What the F**k's that all about derf? Whose army are you in now?. Your emails are being monitored like the rest of us and you sound like a white
supremacist. Just listen to yourself man. You and the Canadians call yourself Americans but you are all colonists from all over the place. The
indigenous Americans are the people who suffered at our expense, ousted from their rightful home and not just the North Americas. Europe plundered
Canada and all the way down to South America in various guises, English French and Spanish while they were still fighting amongst themselves (I
don't recall the Belgians being involved though). I'm sorry to say I've let myself get drawn into it but it doesn't deserve
the space it's taking up and should be dumped. It's not madhouse material and should be in its own section, who can wee furthest or
something.
Give America back to the Native Americans. Like that's going to happen. If we'd all been Navajo the world would have been a better place.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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MikeP
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| posted on 9/11/05 at 03:32 AM |
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Let's put aside the penis size comparisons for a moment (a metaphor for the "my country is better than yours" arguments derf  ).
The implication that any one of the Canadian, French, Polish, American, British, or any other soldier wasted their time, their lives, weren't
appreciated, or weren't needed is very offensive - more so because it's 3 days from remembrance day.
What about our members who are German, Italian, Japanese, Iraqi, etc - our friends and fellow members? This and other threads haven't been
very friendly to them. Were they all evil for fighting and dying for their own countries? If they'd won they'd be heros in the history
books.
I say save the vitriol for the asshole politicians and leaders that put their egos and personal gain ahead of the lives of their own friends and
family, their own people. On the 11th I'll be remembering those that fought for what they believed was right regardless of side.
Pete, I've read and re-read, and I just can't find the humor in your post - one of us is slipping !
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Cita
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| posted on 9/11/05 at 06:30 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
.....(I don't recall the Belgians being involved though).....
The Belgians where too busy molesting native people in Belgian Kongo!
Cheers Cita
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smart51
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| posted on 9/11/05 at 10:13 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by steve_gus
USA discovered the principles of flight.
I rather think not. There are a number of countries that would dispute this, not least Germany, France and the UK.
Flight, Manned Flight and Powered Flight were all pioneered by people from various countries before Manned AND powered flight was achieved by the
wright brothers. Their breakthough was to buy an engine that was light enough for it, a plane and a pilot to be flown under its own power.
IIRC, it was a German who "perfected" the dynamics of flight, he just had to rely on gravity and wind power to keep him going.
[Edited on 9-11-2005 by smart51]
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Cita
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| posted on 9/11/05 at 11:09 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by smart51
quote:
Originally posted by steve_gus
USA discovered the principles of flight.
Their breakthough was to buy an engine that was light enough for it, a plane and a pilot to be flown under its own power.
They designed their own engine-their own plane and learned themselves to fly.
Cheers Cita
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smart51
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| posted on 9/11/05 at 11:41 AM |
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quote:
They designed their own engine-their own plane and learned themselves to fly.
Cheers Cita
They designed their own engine-their own plane and taught themselves to fly.
But manned flight had been mastered 100 years earlier. Powered flight had been achieved but didn't have enough power to take a pilot.
The wright brothers got it all together first but they didn't discover flight.
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Cita
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| posted on 9/11/05 at 12:45 PM |
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Forgive me my ignorance but who was it that had flown an airplane in the early 19th century?
Balloon's and Zeppelin's (Ponton d'Amecourt etc...)made powered man carrying flights in the early 19th century but this is comparing
apples with oranges.
Otto Lillienthal crashed his glider on August 9,1896 and died and as you will notice this was at the best a few decades before the Wright brothers
made their memorable flight.
He was probably the person who laid the foundation of development of wing flight.
The work of Sir George Calley has also it's place in history as is the work of many others in this field.
The Wright's where the first to place all the pieces of the jiggsaw together and made the first powered manned flight with an airplane.
It would be unfair to minimize the work of Sir Frank Whittle on the jet engine with saying that all the theory he used (fluid mechanics-pyrotechnics
etc...)have been done for him many years before he even started thinking about the jet engine.
The helicopter was not invented by Sikorsky as there even exhisted toys that where based on the rotary wing theory as early as the 13th century!
But he was among the first to put the pieces together and made it work.
In that respect I would say that the Wright's deserve to credit that they developed the powered flight.
Cheers Cita
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Peteff
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| posted on 9/11/05 at 01:04 PM |
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That's Sir George Cayley Gilbert
I have this in my favourites here because I like looking at this kind of stuff, especially
gyrocopters.
smart51 " he just had to rely on gravity". That's what stops you flying, it's very reliable in that aspect. 
[Edited on 9/11/05 by Peteff]
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Cita
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| posted on 9/11/05 at 02:00 PM |
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Thanks Pete
I'm glad you understood who I was talking about
Cheers Cita
[Edited on 9/11/05 by Cita]
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Cita
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| posted on 9/11/05 at 02:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
I have this in my favourites here because I like looking at this kind of stuff, especially
gyrocopters.
Is Stringfellow synonime for Cayley?
Cheers Cita
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Cita
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| posted on 9/11/05 at 02:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
..... because I like looking at this kind of stuff, especially gyrocopters.
Gyrocopter was a trademark Pete.
The proper name is autogyro or gyroplane
Cheers Cita
[Edited on 9/11/05 by Cita]
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derf
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| posted on 9/11/05 at 04:45 PM |
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Here is something that comes from London:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_The_Ripper
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steve_gus
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| posted on 9/11/05 at 07:51 PM |
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Thats very sticky ground!
117 year old murderer was the best you could come up with?
I think America has advanced serial killing pretty well in the 20th century.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_bundy
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fish (particularly nasty)
kinda blows old jack into the shade.
as would some of these.......
Charles Albright - Killer of three. Known for surgically removing the eyes of victims
David Berkowitz - known as the "Son of Sam"
The Boston Strangler - allegedly Albert DeSalvo, though disputed
William Bonin - with several accomplices, claimed the lives of twenty boys in California
Jerry Brudos - killed at least 5 women and was sexually aroused by their feet.
Ted Bundy - law student who raped and murdered over 30 women in several states
Richard Chase - The "Vampire of Sacramento" murdered six people in the '70s
Dean Corll - committed the Houston Mass Murders with Elmer Wayne Henley and David Brooks
Juan Corona - Mexican immigrant who killed 25 people in the space of just six-weeks
Charles Cullen - Male nurse in New Jersey and Pennsylvania who killed as many as 40 patients through lethal injection
Jeffrey Dahmer - Milwaukee cannibal who kept heads, skulls and body parts in his apartment
Westley Allan Dodd - child molester and killer of 3 young boys in Seattle, Washington. hanged on January 5, 1993
Glennon Engleman - mediocre St. Louis dentist who shot and bombed his way to financial success
Larry Eyler - the "Interstate Killer" of Illinois. Killed 21 people between 1982 and 1994
Albert Fish - sadist and pedophile who cannibalised a 12-year-old girl
John Wayne Gacy - the 'Killer Clown' who kept bodies buried under his Chicago home
Ed Gein. Elements of Gein's life and crimes have inspired, at least in part The Silence of the Lambs and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
Kristen Gilbert - Original "Angel of Death" serial killer, convicted of killing 4 by injection of epinephrine while working as a nurse
Harvey Murray Glatman - Californian rapist and killer of three women. Lured women to pose for "bondage photographs" and would rape and
murder them.
Belle Gunness - the "Black Widow of the Heartland". killed prospective husbands, suitors, and her own children
Donald Harvey - male nurse, confessed to more than 80 "mercy killings" with 37 confirmed killings.
Gary M. Heidnik - serial killer from the Philadelphia area.
"Wild Bill" Hickman - Killed in the name of religion. Many of his alleged exploits are disputed.
Hillside Strangler - actually two men, Kenneth Bianchi and Angelo Buono, Jr.
Genene Jones - Texas pediatric nurse who is believed to have killed up to 48 infants in her care in the 1980s
H. H. Holmes (real name Herman Mudgett), active 1890-1894 during Chicago's 1893 World Columbian Exposition.
Patrick Kearney - necrophile who butchered 28 men in California
Edmund Kemper - started killing when he was aged fifteen
Sante Kimes - grifter and murder-for-profit killer who, along with her son Kenneth Kimes, are believed to have killed upwards of 4 people
Paul John Knowles - raped and murdered 18 people
Randy Steven Kraft - murdered as many as 68 young men in California
Leonard Lake and Charles Ng - ex-marines and survivalists who collected female slaves
Derrick Todd Lee - aka the Baton Rouge Serial Killer
Eddie Leonski - the Brownout Strangler
Henry Lee Lucas - confessed to hundreds of murders, although most confessions were false
Bobby Joe McCauley - hitchiker schizophrenic who murdered 7 (possibly 15) prostitutes [1].
John Allen Muhammed - Washington D.C. area sniper.
Herbert Mullin - schizophrenic who killed people to prevent earthquakes
Earle Nelson - Necrophiliac serial killer dubbed "Gorilla Man"
Carl Panzram - murderer, rapist, arsonist
Jesse Pomeroy - teenaged psychopath who killed two children
Dorothea Puente - killed and robbed nine elderly people
Dennis Rader - killed ten people over 20 years as the "BTK Killer"
Richard Ramirez - the 'Night Stalker' who terrorized Los Angeles in 1986
Angel Maturino Resendiz - killed nine people in Texas, Kentucky, and Illinois
Gary Ridgway - arrested in November, 2001 for The Green River Killer murders
Joel Rifkin - murdered 17 women in the New York City and Long Island area
John Edward Robinson - so-called 'Cyber Sex Killer' who lured victims through the internet
Danny Rolling - pleaded guilty to butchering five students in Florida
Arthur Shawcross - the Genesee River Killer
Gerard John Schaefer - policeman from Florida who killed up to thirty-four women and girls
Charles Starkweather and Caril Ann Fugate - "Natural Born Killers"
Cary Stayner - "Yosemite Murderer". killed three women
Michael Swango - medical doctor believed to have administered lethal injections to as many as 35 people in the USA and Zimbabwe
Otis Toole - Henry Lee Lucas's accomplice. Convicted of six murders in Florida
Jane Toppan - 19th Century nurse who killed over thirty patients
Coral Eugene Watts - killed dozens of women in Texas and Michigan
Wayne Williams - convicted of the Atlanta Child Murders, disputed
Randall Woodfield - the "I-5 killer"
Aileen Wuornos - rare female serial killer who shot dead six men in Florida
atb
steve
PS - the above isnt anti american, just factual reply to 'jack the ripper'.
[Edited on 9/11/05 by steve_gus]
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marcyboy
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| posted on 9/11/05 at 08:28 PM |
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theres a few touched people in that list ... well all of em
and wasn't jack the ripper a septic (allegedly)
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smart51
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| posted on 9/11/05 at 10:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by marcyboy
and wasn't jack the ripper a septic (allegedly)
For those not aflicted by being cockney:
septic = septic tank = yank = american.
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steve_gus
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| posted on 9/11/05 at 11:09 PM |
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whats a septic tank full of?
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 9/11/05 at 11:11 PM |
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Yanks?
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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Triton
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| posted on 10/11/05 at 12:39 AM |
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Some even have too many toes apparently.....
My Daughter has taken over production of the damn fine Triton race seats and her contact email is emmatrs@live.co.uk.
www.tritonraceseats.com
www.hairyhedgehog.com
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