coozer
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| posted on 3/6/12 at 11:37 AM |
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Why is it.. Pt. 2
When your going down the motorway the hard shoulder is littered with duffers in cars with flat tyres with AA/RAC in attendance changing wheels?
Why is that? Nobody do a basic wheel change anymore?
I think it should be part of the test...
Laughed me bits off Thursday.. a mug towing a caravan with an AA fella pouring fuel in... probably only 500 yards from Tibshelf.
Why is that? Surely going on a touring holiday with the wife and 3 brats you realise the mpg is going to suffer!!
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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flibble
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| posted on 3/6/12 at 11:44 AM |
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People are stupid and lazy and getting more so as time moves on, I'd say that covers it 
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blakep82
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| posted on 3/6/12 at 11:44 AM |
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think advice from police, rac, aa etc is if you get a flat tyre on the motorway now, call aa/rac to change it, as its dangerous on your own (ie
without the rac vans lights flashing)
remember seeing that years ago
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maccmike
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| posted on 3/6/12 at 11:47 AM |
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I think it is part of the test now, could be wrong though.
Plus, too many cars have inflater kits, if this is used and not replaced before next puncture, your stuck.
My biggest bug bear is lack of indicating.
Also, last weekend, joined a double entrance and exit roundabout in right line, was going straight on, indicated to come off, woman in left lane
decided she wanted to go all the way round. It was close to say the least! Closest encounter Iv had to swapping paint. Cheeky bitch was waving at me
as if it was my fault.
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scootz
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| posted on 3/6/12 at 11:50 AM |
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If I wasn't in a rush... and if I was a member of one of the motoring associations (I'm not)... then I would much rather have my tyre
changed by a guy in a yellow jacket working in the safety-shadow of a big orange van with flashing warning lights on top than do it myself whilst
dozens of half-sleeping dopey ****-wits who think they can drive flash a few feet past me at 80+mph!
This is the self-preservation society!!!
It's Evolution Baby!
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Slimy38
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| posted on 3/6/12 at 11:54 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
think advice from police, rac, aa etc is if you get a flat tyre on the motorway now, call aa/rac to change it, as its dangerous on your own (ie
without the rac vans lights flashing)
remember seeing that years ago
Yep, I remember it from the documents of my breakdown cover. Considering the few people I've seen who do try it have had their back sides
sticking out on to the first lane I'm not surprised this is now the recommendation.
While I'm all for people doing work themselves, some people need protecting from themselves.
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PSpirine
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| posted on 3/6/12 at 12:22 PM |
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The other reason is.. I've been paying £100 a year for relay breakdown cover for 4 years and not once had a breakdown (surprising, given my
motors).
If I get a flat tyre and it's pissing it down, I will most certainly call them out just to get my money's worth!
As for inflators.. I've been carrying a TyreWeld can for a while in my Micra - used it the other day, and the whole plastic top just leaked with
goo spraying seemingly everywhere except into the tyre... So can't really rely on those evidently...
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YQUSTA
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| posted on 3/6/12 at 12:52 PM |
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most company car policies also have a section saying not to change wheels.
"If in doubt flat out"
Colin McRae
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maccmike
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| posted on 3/6/12 at 01:11 PM |
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cant fault my bmw inflater kit.
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afj
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| posted on 3/6/12 at 01:20 PM |
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When I do breakdowns 90% of the time I need to use a 2ft breaker bar with a length of scaffold tube on the end after some monkey in a workshop has
done the nuts up with his gun, it's only us on here who have some mechanical sympathy to do the nuts to the proper torque
eerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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stevegough
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| posted on 3/6/12 at 02:23 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
This is the self-preservation society!!!
Need a picure to illustrate the vision conjured up by this line from scootz!
Luego Locost C20XE.
Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
First show: Stoneleigh 1st/2nd May 2011.
'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
Back on the road with 2nd engine may 24th
First PASA mad drive 26/7/11
Sold to Mike in Methyr Tydvil 19/03/14
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scootz
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| posted on 3/6/12 at 02:50 PM |
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It's Evolution Baby!
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jabs
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| posted on 3/6/12 at 03:27 PM |
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Most dangerous place on the motorway is the hard shoulder, advice is always get out and get well away from the car / motorway.
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owelly
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I hear what you're all saying but I have a reflective triangle. That'll save me.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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BenB
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| posted on 3/6/12 at 05:34 PM |
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It is indeed part of the theory test that you shouldn't do it yourself. Personally if it was on the passenger side I'd do it. If it was on
the drivers side might wait for some AA/RAC.
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avagolen
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| posted on 3/6/12 at 06:12 PM |
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Once apon a time......
I drove 5 miles with a flat nearside rear on the motorway - after a late shift - until I
got to a place I new would be safe to change it. I knew the tyre did not have a lot of life in it
and would not be worth repairing.
I feel it was still a lot quicker and safer than doing it in the dark
on an unlit stretch of motorway....
When I was a mere lad, helping my dad change a flat on the motorway,
a police man shouted over his tannoy as he drove past 'Get your backside in son' 
Will never forget that bit of advise.....
The Answer for everything, but never the last word....
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Bladerunner
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| posted on 3/6/12 at 06:43 PM |
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One of the problems with Alloy wheels is that they "rust" on to the hubs. Most breakdown guys have a large hammer to break the rust seal.
That is why the AA/RAC are called out, because you can't get the buggers off!!!!
Adventure before Dementia
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Mr C
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| posted on 3/6/12 at 08:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Bladerunner
One of the problems with Alloy wheels is that they "rust" on to the hubs. Most breakdown guys have a large hammer to break the rust seal.
That is why the AA/RAC are called out, because you can't get the buggers off!!!!
Exactly this happened the other day to someone on the school run, being the good Samaritan I thought I'd help them out to no avail. No amount of
persuasion would shift it with a danger of the car coming off the flimsy jack, AA called and sorted.
My own daily driver has a canister provided rather than a spare wheel, as happened to me recently, if the damage is too great them no amount will
inflate the tyre resulting in another call to the AA .
Its not all about not having the ability or too lazy etc, to change a tyre, circumstances and equipment need to be right.
Girl walks into a bar and asks for a double entendre, so the barman gave her one
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A1
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| posted on 3/6/12 at 11:11 PM |
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bit of copper slip on the hubs stops any corrosion gluing them together.
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Furyous
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| posted on 4/6/12 at 02:49 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Bladerunner
One of the problems with Alloy wheels is that they "rust" on to the hubs. Most breakdown guys have a large hammer to break the rust seal.
That is why the AA/RAC are called out, because you can't get the buggers off!!!!
I once had that happen to me. I went through one of those narrow traffic calming things but hit the kerb and punctured the tyre. I pulled over a bit
down the road, out of the way, and managed to get all the bolts off but the wheel wouldn't budge. I sat on the side of the road in the snow
waiting for dad to bring a mallet but he was over an hour away. After half an hour a very nice man in a mobile tyre fitting van pulled up, jacked my
car with his heavy duty jack, then gave the wheel a single kick and swapped the spare for me. I felt like an absolute plank. To be fair, if I had
kicked it with the little wind-up jack it might have toppled over. I said thanks and off he went. That was before I had AA membership.
Mum's car got a wheel stuck on one time so I used the spare wheel to give it a thump, which worked fine.
[Edited on 4/6/12 by Furyous]
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mcerd1
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| posted on 4/6/12 at 09:44 AM |
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I've done a few for random people at the side of the road (not motorways) and few for neibours, the last one was on a tiny unclasified road -
the old boy had all the stuff out but couldn't work out how the jack worked on his audi A6 and the AA couldn't find him... took me 2min
to jack it and change the wheel (with his jack)
a mate of mine had just had new tyres put on when he got a puncture (quickfit or farmers - can't remember which) he couldn't get the bolts
loose for anything - in the end it took an 8ft lever and 3 wrecked sockets to get them off 
and my mum's cars rear wheels took more than a little persuading to come off the hubs and that was on an 18 month old car!
alloys corroded onto the hubs, flimsy jacks, over tightened nuts/bolts etc... None of these help and add in the whole health hand safety side and you
can see why most companies won't let there employees change a wheel
but most people just give up to easily these days anyway 
personally I always torque my wheel nuts, copper slip my hubs and nuts and know that the jack is just sturdy enough - I always seem to get flats in
carparks for some reason and its always a nail or a roofing bolt...
the last time one of my mates decided to time me (rather than actually help) apparently I can change one in 4:40 including getting all the stuff out
of and back into the boot, would have been faster but he kept hiding my tools 
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quinnj3
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| posted on 4/6/12 at 11:57 AM |
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I had a flat a couple of weeks ago on the motorway in tehe works van. The tyre was on the passenger side so i was happy to change it. The wheel nuts
would not come off with the supplied bar, I bent that!! So out came the socket set and eventually I got the bolts off. The the wheel would not come
off, so i put the wheel nuts on loosely and drove a couple of meters until the wheel came off. I was then able to change the wheel o.k. I felt very
vulnerable though as the traffic was flying past!
my aim is to build my own locost wether it takes me a week or 10 years to get started, i'm sure i will sometime
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